your nick fits the amount of weight you're talking about. ;P

your face fits the amount of shit you're talking.

haha n1 :> made me laff anyway.

Care factor = nil

you care enough
MY FIERINENAFsafjasfaskfasf
afzlflaf.asf.asfasf.a.

I swear man. I am fuckin retarded. someone shoot me.

No, but I will stab you in the face...with a pen.

glak glak. JOO DEAD FOO!@)!#

Last time I remember you were perfect. Quite inconsistent, innit?

[insert witty comment to make someone who cares too much look stupid here]

\o/

Shame we have to do it for you.

mine was funny though :o

Don't know what I can press. Did 50kg in the 7th grade (13 years old). Haven't really tested max since then.

nice, just be careful with increasing weight :)

Well i always have a friend behind me when i take benchpress... you only roll it over your stomach once in your life, after that you always have a mate with you :))

haha true, it happened to me once :)

Yeah :-))

how much is that in lbs :D i know i bench 135 and i just started out last semester and i weigh about 130ish and im 15 :P

200

hmm think i weigh about 180 lbs(80 kg.) and ive been training for 21 months... Started at 68 kgs....which is like 140 lbs if my headcalcs is correct...

close enough. 80kg = 176lb, 68kg = 149lb

x it by 2.2 dumbass (2.2 kg=1 lb) how much can you all bench? It just recently hit 455 at a powerlifting meet, im 19 yrs old and weigh 265 My goal by the end of this year is to bench 525 and set a new american record.

no dumbass, 2.2lb=1kg

fuck me he's lifting 1001lbs :o

lol.

hm, i did 80 kg once..
i know thats not much, but, you wanted to know :D

Its not a question if its much to others, but if it is to you... For me its much :)

"Its not a question if its much to others, but if it is to you... "

yes, that's correct. :)

i bench between 70 and 80 and i am 15 coming to sixteen, and weigh 12 stone 7

whoop-de-doo, look at me.

??? your point is?

whoop-de-doo, look at me.

ZUPPAHMAN!

bench press is shit. you are all shit. gay boy muscles. fuckoff.

Gay or not i get pussy every day :)

if you were gay you wouldn't want pussy would you!!

=p

I could have come away with something snide like "Your mum doesn't count" But i didn't..... =)

i did

114 kg but i stopped working out:@

dam school

that was you max or you did series with that weight regularly? :)

no max :P

haha

what's so funny?

fat people are usually funny to watch work out

what's that got to do with this thread?

that i apparently misunderstood the sentence "did you train with 114 kg", thought it said "did you weight 114 kg"; o

k noob

go away, let me finish drinking my daily 5-cup-cappoccino dosis

congrats, its always good to record a new maximum.
ignore the idiots posting shit, u carry on pushing.

:D

as for my maximum, i cant remember :x
been ages since i been in a gym!

I managed to do 20 kg once....but I almost broke my dick off, so I quit. ;)

Personal best is 280 pounds.

I can roughly do 235 right now but can rep 200 5-10 times.

looks like an awfully big number while its in pounds, at first i though its in kg and was like wtf :D

200lb = 90kg (or there abouts)
making 235 = 105kg(ish).

Thats not too bad :D

thing is, its not the total weight u lift that matters, its the weight v body weight that does.

not necessarily body weight. I know extremely small guys who are capable of benching 300lb for reps.
it's more like what's best for you. people are always using shit like this to compete, which is kinda silly really, it just depends on you. I've stopped for a while but I think I'd be around 200-240lb. (1 rep max)

i'm not saying its bad, its pretty good.

its just when i saw number 280 i was thinking in kg and it seemed quite a lot :)

a lot of reps with medium weight is a lot better than doing max x 12(10) to develop muscles anyway

"than doing max x 12(10) to "

what the fuck are you talking about homo? :P

but yea, if you want tone(and strength), it's better. personally I've always tried to build first, tone later.

ahahahhahahha

you are clueless man... Hypertrophy is supposed to be happening between 6-12 reps a set... Strengthlifters usually dont lift more than 1-3 sometimes between 1-6 a set... Saying that higher reps tones is a true myth(what tones the muscles is dertermined by how much fat that sorrounds them)... And who is the stronger? Well i think its the guy that can lift the most...

That said, nobody really knows how to make muscles grow, and the majority believes its individual, so you cant really say what works how for who... :)

oh and i usually take 3 sets of 12 in my routine, atm... proven results actually say that 1 set gives the same amount as 3, but more sets should prevent injuries...

hmm all rep and rep out systems are good for you, it all depends on what you are aiming for.

Like pumping yourself up fast in comparision to getting strength..

"you are clueless man... Hypertrophy is supposed to be happening between 6-12 reps a set... Strengthlifters usually dont lift more than 1-3 sometimes between 1-6 a set... "

if 'nobody' knows, then who are you to claim this?

"Saying that" ..snip.. "(what tones the muscles is dertermined by how much fat that sorrounds them)"

this is mostly true. you do understand how fat works? your muscles use it for energy. low, slower-paced excercising will not raise your metabolic rate as faster-paced excercising will.

"And who is the stronger? Well i think its the guy that can lift the most..."

strength = power/body weight

I think you're confusing strength with power. And no, the 'stronger' guy is not always the 'most powerful.' (a quite contradictory logic, you might say)

propably some language misunderstandings... But to answer one after one...
Strengtlifters do 1-6 reps, or 1-3 as i said... They do this because they focus on getting stronger(power or whatever you call it) all(or most) bodybuilders is going for higher reps to stimulate hypertrophy, its nothing i claim its just how its done :)

The next thing... Yes, not to challenge your english what marks(or tones if you like) your muscles is 1. How much fat that surrounds them 2. the size.

Last you may be right about me confusing strength and power, i would think it was the same :)

Who can lift the most does not make you "stronger." Real strength comes in endurance, not straight power. It's much better to be able to rep something a bunch of times, rather than just maxing out your weight in order to try to get "big."

Endurance is the key factor for strength, without endurance you're weak, I don't care how much you say you can bench.

All the fights I've been in, endurance has always been the key factor, not raw power. Hey, but their big muscles always look real pretty when they are laid out on the ground though, lol. You can whip some serious ass and never have to put up more than 235-250 pounds. (Adjust for your weight accordingly obviously, I weigh 175)

They can keep their 300+ bench press, I'll stick with my 235-250 ... I refuse to go over that amount for myself personally, would rather just get good reps in. Also, I don't think my body has the frame necessary to lift too heavy weight. Last time I was lifting using dumbells to work my chest, when I got around the 80 pounders on an incline, my left shoulder gave out on me, so I haven't done extreme weights ever again.

Unless you're just naturally a big guy, lifting big weight isn't necessary and is over-rated in my opinion. Endurance is where it's at...

"Unless you're just naturally a big guy, lifting big weight isn't necessary and is over-rated in my opinion."

ya, it's kindof irrelevant but back when my dad lifted (heh, I think he stopped at around 25 years old) he pressed about 310, curled 150, had 19" biceps and a 52" chest. it doesn't make that much sense to me, either, but he is/was a pretty big guy at 6'4" 220-230, so I dunno. I think bodyweight is somewhat relative tho, but once you get bigger, you definitely need to go up some or it's just too easy.

i was 50" chest / 18" bicep / 18.5" neck when i was 19!!

wish i had kept on going now :/

nice :)

I have a gigantic 42" chest, 16" biceps, 15" neck myself ;) (I just turned 17)

I needa work on my chest again - haven't been benching in a while, but I've been focusing on my midsection recently and I've almost got those abs out of the oven. ;>

lol n1, ive never had a decent 6 pack, but then ive never done any toning, was all bulking up !!

this thread makes me wanna hit the gym again, which is a good thing :D

I seriously think abs are mostly genetics, man. I've worked as hard as anyone and my midsection looks really good in my opinion, but I doubt I'll ever look like john basedow or whoever else. It's probably annoying to those hardgainers that try. If I don't get them before I goto the beach in July, you can rest assured I will just try harder. I dun care if that means literally ripping my stomach inside out, I have an incredibly high pain tolerance anyway. It hurts to get defined abs tho, I can attest to that. Internal pain never feels pleasant ;>
but right now I'm doing 50 10lb resisted crunches, 30xSide obliques, 50 lower ab excercises, twice. I'll go for more resistance, if that's what it takes.

I'm seeing good results tho, but alot of people don't.
I'm writing all this down here cuz I don't currently keep a record much anywhere else. far as meh midsection goes, I of course had to lose any fat on my midsection in order for my abdominals to show. I stood 6'0"(183cm), 172lb(78kg).
I lost 15lb and was down to a 35-36" waist. I was then 157lb(71kg).
Since then I'd lost another 4lb -- 153lb(69kg).
I sustained this weight for about week with muscle toning, while still losing another inch off my waist. My waist is now 34"(~86cm). I wanted to tone my triceps cuz I want that V looking thing in my upper arm, so I've switched to lighter weight, higher rep tricep excercises and I am starting to see definition. My arms won't go through my sleeves without friction in my XL size shirts, because of my triceps. They'll slide on over my biceps, tho, but my biceps are already perfect imho. :)
Nowza just gotta work on my lats & chest and I'll love myself deeply. ;>

as for me tho I kinda wanna play football, and they record those stats. but I'm never going to cuz I don't wanna goto college. ;<

stfu light

this is about pure explosive power rather than amount of reps.

i use about a 40lb+ bar but do loads of reps, different types obviously.

p.s im fucking useless at bench pressing

To all you strong guys that can do 90+ kilo presses how many pressups can you do in 1 go? im curious to see how well balanced and how much stamina you have, be honest now.

Also try doing some dumbell presses to stimulate new growth on an incline or decline, you need a partner for this, infact you really should have for bench press too, im sure you all do :)

hehe, you posted this at the same time as me.

I agree completely, stamina, endurance.... that's the true test of strength.

havent tried in a long time, somewhere between 50-100, i'm not a big fan of getting too tired and strained :)

I don't know if I can do 90kg cuz I haven't tried in quite some time, but I can do a significant number for my bodyweight, I'm sure. and as far as 'pressups' (I'm assuming you mean pushups? I do about 100-200 straight just for fun sometimes in the morning ;P

I'd be impressed if you could do 200 pushups, I only managed to reach 100, but in a circuits session i used to do well over 200, but not all at once of coarse, 3 sets of 10 reps on 70kg or about 4-5 reps on 90kg x 3 was my max, not done any heavy stuff for a while but still do some dumbels, and cycling/running to keep in shape.

I dunt think it's hard. All it takes is following through. Just don't stop, what's so hard about that? :)

Once when all I ate was really fat fast food, was extremely tired cuz I stayed helped my mom work her third shift at the motel all night, and I got down on the floor and did 80 in a row, hah. It was pretty easy. Since then I haven't really done many, but I did a couple more sets the following days/weeks, doing about the same number (but I did them in sets). I'm still sure I could pull out many more than that in one go.

I wank off, my wank muscle is hard as stone.
That's enough.

ya but it's easy to tone smaller muscle..

I'm happy with the size of my muscle.
It gets hard and stays hard at a decent size.

haha, he should change the training equipment though :)

Sooo.....who uses createne? Kinda warps things doesn't it?

I'm on it atm and if I do chest on Monday I can go Thursday again. Big advantage.

I used creatine for a while, far as I can tell it gave me stomach issues and made me really dehydrated. It could have been something else, granted, but since I've stopped the problem hasn't persisted. I dano, that's just me.

El-natural for me. I don't like using supliments.

Vitamins is all I take.

pure natural for me too, not even vitamines

vitamins are 'natural'

seriously kdawg. we've all seen your pictures. you can't possibly bench more than 20lbs?

lol.
I don't feed the trolls, sorry. 8-)

wordgames, snoozer.

they are not, its a result of chemical manufacturing, so its hardly "natural"

;p

</nitpick> ?

:)
not really, chemically processed food/vitamins/etc can often contain hidden traces of harmfull/dangerous elements
(just because you dont die immediately it doesnt mean its safe or healthy :))
i prefer a natural source of vitamins (fruits/etc) over pills/etc anytime

"i prefer a natural source of vitamins (fruits/etc) over pills/etc anytime "

'naturally' ;>

baaaa :)

Point taken, but then define al-natural. You can’t even buy fruit juice without preservatives like sodium benzoate in it. Look at any product on the chelves these days. They all have chemicals in them. Here in South Africa they even put stuff in chocolate to prevent it for melting on the shelves. For example, you would find written on a fruit juice box: Orange Juce 100% fruit juice blend.

This is 30% orange juice and 70% of some other abundant fruit (like grapes) put through an extraction process to take out all the flavors leaving only water and sucrose. Well then I guess it’s 100% fruit juice blend, but what about the chemical impurities that came through the extraction process? Then I don’t even want to talk about the pitless fruit, like oranges and grapes we all are eating. How natural is that? Ya we are eating this in SA, but our farmers thrive on exporting their fruit to Europe and USA.

Coming back to creatine. Yes, the product is not natural, but the substance is. It can be found in any raw meat. So if you say you want to be al-natural you must also leave multi vitamins, antibiotics or any medicine for that matter and 90% of the food you buy alone. I’m not promoting createne. I know concentrating stuff like that can’t be good for you. Just don’t fool yourself into thinking you you’re healthier because you don’t take supplements. I take it ‘cos it motivates me to go to gym and get some exercise rather than gaming the whole day.

Kdawg, if you take large amounts of createne it will dehydrate you (drink more water). A friend of mine also got the shitters…I mean “stomach issues” from taking the stuff. Solution: stop taking it [=

Herb

So if you say you want to be al-natural you must also leave multi vitamins, antibiotics or any medicine for that matter and 90% of the food you buy alone.

thats how i try to live, so far it works fine, havent been ill in more than 15 years :)

I don't even take aspirin, motrin, etc.

I generally only get sick 1-2 times a year.

hey, I did stop taking it. and I drank about 10 bottled waters a day (Aberfoyle springs). :)

but I didn't particularly take large amounts.

Btw.. they use *wax* in most chocolates to prevent them from melting. and as far as fruits go for dieting and excercising, they're not that great because of fructose. I used to eat about an apple a day, plenty for me.

used to take creatine when i was building. Tasted horrid and looked like rabbit shit!

Back when i was using it ppl were classing it as a steroid substitute. Which to an extent it is (in the manner it reacts) but it is a pure supliment.

Once, when i was 6, I lifted a boulder to escape from the cave. Granted I didnt bench press it but rumour has it, that its the same rock that guards alibabas cave and weighs in a 988kg. I went to the beach that summer and 666 birthmark got washed off.

When I was 17 I did 79kg 1 rep max, 20 now only have weights at home with a max of 65-70kg on the bar. Can bench that 12-13 times. However I'm more suited to endurance/power and my muscle groups are seriously weird. My calves cant lift shit but can do 100's of reps with a moderate weight. Quads - ummm can do the 70 kg 15-20 times maybe more with a spotter. Shoulders are strong(50kg x 10) as are biceps(80lbs x 8) but triceps and chest arent particularly strong but probably more developed that either shoulders or triceps. So what I do is high/low rep training to really confuse the muscles. Only type of program that worked for me to a good extent. Comments or suggestions please, I'm kinda lost on this muscle fibre shit that i seem to have going on. Was a long distance runner when younger. They say its not all genetics, that your early physical and muscle type development can depend on what types of activity you had.

I know a girl that weighs ~67 kg and her personal best was 106 kg. Eat your heart out =)

ya, that must be right, cuz the strongest women in the world only bench about 175.

except this hoe

list of female bodybuilders or some crap

that heather chick is pretty big. I've seen many other female bodybuilders(deborah compton e.g.) tho and they aren't very big at all, but quite toned and strong for women.

She ain't no bodybuilding monster. Just Polish judo champ.

hehe, doesnt touch me... i like who i am and is satisfied by the way i looks so i can look at monsters like she (propably) is and laugh because i dont think its pretty when woman have wide shoulders, big arms and so on... They should be small and tight, suited for light(ok that was lame :D)

" i dont think its pretty when woman have wide shoulders, big arms and so on"

who does?:>

For conversations sake..

It is very true that in powerlifting the ratio between lifted weight and body weight is what matters. The whole idea of the sport is to gain strenght without really building muscle (since that would make you heavyer and you would need to compete in a different class)

As a general guideline people who gets a ratio under 1.5 are concidered beginners.

Just for fun some stats:

weight: 82kg
Bench 1 rep max 137,5kg
chins: 25
squat 10 reps with 160kg

I got a long way to go still =)
I personally beleave that in the end raw power wins :)

that would make me a good powerlifter i suppose, with 2.5+ x :)

Well....that would make you a professional powerlifter. Can I find your name on some record list? :)

no :)
(my personal best was somewhere between 170-180kg :))

honestly 1.5 seems a little bit high, but it's somewhat accurate.

A lot of different ppl are talking about a lot of different things in this journal.

for example weve got :

Powerlifting
bodybuilding
weight training

All are effective if used right by the right ppl.
No point arguing which is better as ppl who use different training are after different goals.

you are right.. i didnt know there was something called powerlifting... :)

uh.. :>

Hello old thread!

I'm bench pressing with 90kg (my weight is 80kg) - bad ratio?
It's very heavy already and I don't think I'm gonna raise the weight anymore soon, oh well :-(

Is there some healthy limit btw (for non-bodybuilding)? I assume it's different for everyone..

different weights for different ppl really, depends on what your trying to achieve.

Ronnie Coleman shall look like a noodle next to me! ;-)

I weigh like 64kg and um...I think I can pick up my gf? she's like 43kg....is that a bad ratio?

Theoretically that's all you need for doing "gymnastics" with her.

no problems so far, cept I can't pin her down with out hitting her, it's so degrading being so weak. atleast we are both super flexible, we don't need muscle! only need to look pretty.

My strongest lifts are 235 pounds one rep and 190 11 reps.

whats a bench press
sry, I do bodyweight exercises only.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/PectoralS...Press.html

That was hard to find

thanks