I don't wanna get my hopes up, but this sounds promising...

you're getting your hopes up

should we make a poll/fixture about what's in it?

no

yes

maybe

gillz is french

If only there was some way to determin whether to make that poll while taking the opionion of all users into account..

a fixture with the options

"There will be a poll"
"There won't be a poll"

might work.

a fixture with the options

"There will be a poll"
"There won't be a poll"
"There will be a pole"

might work.

fyp

large backend update

TA maps && more fail from id.

GTV, MVD and new maps?

Pink armor!

It's lightish red I tell you!!!

lightish red, the most manly of colours.

it's the colors of blood and purity combined!

spot on!

they gonna add some "new" old maps and nerf the game a lil bit more so the kids stop the whinings

and probably put every possible cvar to the menu so the nabs can bloom their pro cfg better

QUAKE IS A HC GAME FFS STOP MAKING IT GAY

pls

seriously

im beggin

no more bloom

pls pls pls pls

stop the gayness AND ADD SOME MUTHAFUCKIN GIBS NAOO!!!!

hmmm, my best guess would be two, not one, but two new player models and a fix for an exploit noone has heard about

new bridge on dm6?

profit!

bridge from bridge to rail?!

If there will be remakes of others old map like ztn i will stop playing for sure ...

stop make advantages to old duel players for once !!!!

They will add cg_enemypeniscolor and cg_peniscolor

And a whacky new update that any1 connecting from germany wears a WW1 helmut. This will surely revitalise the QL community and bring fresh blood.

i completely agree.
You have great insight and should work for idsoft

i like your name... should i settle in @ id, im suggesting you as my partner in crime and design solutions

and we can work out a new update,
new bones model with dual colored shiny ballz that jingle when he jumps
:D

[+] cos shady deserves more than 3%

[+] cuz sharing newfound wealth :D

yes I`m the real shady, all you others.....

Fur*q all!

GIIIIIIIIIIBBBBBBBBBBSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

hub!!!!111

hub!!!!1111

hub!!!11111

hub!!!111111

hub!!!1111111

hub!!!11111111

C-C-C-C-C-Combo Breaker!!!!11111111

hub!!!11111111 1

gonna pray for netcode improvements

I see new DevPick servers coming.

It didn't take 6 hours of downtime for Google to remove the "beta" tag, did it ? :p

I hope they fix the friends list bug :(

i think i read it's unfixable :(

I heard they were working on it so fingers crossed :(

If I deleted all my friends and started to re-add, would that fix it?

Yep, working on it for a while now and still failing.

I wish I had friends for my list to be bugged
*puppy dog eyes*
















Mainly cause the one's I keep in the basement don't have net access.

What bug is that?

after re-installing windows / quake your friends list is basically emptied (no friends to manage, no friends online etc). it says you have no friends but if you look at your profile they're still there.

you sure it's a bug?
I think it's a feature

They could also fix a MAC bug. I mean, cmon people using MAC can't even get a 100FPS (not even talking about 125...) on a decent machine.

u buy a mac, u know u cant do shit on it. derp.

That's because Macs are shit

Decent machine?


Mac?





wat

lolololololol mac sucks overpriced pos

you know its bad when macs cant run a maxed framerate on a 10 year old game engine

agreed

try hackintosh

Threewave maps.

itl be a sad day for the ctf community if wcp9 will get played another 10 years.

no since it already happened for dm6, ztn, etc.

cp1 + cp9 and ctf scene may return to be active again

oh they play ctf on those maps too?

srsly tho, why would cp1 and cp9 make it active, wtf is wrong with having community map competitions and getting some fresh stuff played for once ffs :>

because using already tested and rock solid maps can have an immediate impact on the scene.
i'm up for new maps as well, but if you're waiting for mapping contests that's not gonna happen i'm sorry.

t4 ?

Well, so long as I dont have to play hub for another 10 years ... 3wave will seem like a God send.

treewave?

epic mount plz

large as in a large failure?

CPM gameplay in next update \o/

won't happen though :(

Only thing that will fix ql :)

Would be fun to see Quake Live 'large update' with some added weapons cvar like colored grenades and rockets :P No, kidding!

Cant wait to see the next QL update! :)

GL ID :)

haha..rrman FTW! Oh wait, hexen weapon models.

I'm not sure that hype surrounding this update (which might be on things we don't really see) can do good for he game and the community.

I'd rather be surprised with a good update when it's released, than be disappointed because this or that impossible feature was not added. Maybe their intent was just to announce the downtime, and people is turning into hype.

what hype?

Your opening post is fair, but comments are down the road already.

picmipped machine gun bullets

plx

pimped machine gun shells too !!

and what am i suppose to do in the downtime? a lot of data has to be uploaded = maps = longer than average time to do it.

we all win. next tuesday.

Go read a book or something :)

Premium/Private servers I hope. Plus, 1 to 2 new (old) good TDM maps.

Who still want to believe?

hoping for some real content, ... guess they don`t need 6 hours only for adding new cvars for graphic "improvements"...xD

Big downtime usually means server maintenance.

.

They can't put Hub in until they fix the spawn system or just realise they should go back to the VQ3 version.

Better do nothing than do what you want

+1 for the Jailbreak mod... I loved playing that.

You want vehicles and translocator? God, where has this "community" gotten to?

I'd rather have new rail colors than vehicles/translocator, at least colors aren't that retarded.

You don't understand anything in Quake. Vehicles are crucial in professional duel matches.

.

I am now convinced that translocators for vehicles are the solution to all our problems.

Somebody give this guy a pink rail gun and get it over and done with.

I change my mind, I don't want pink rail anymore. I want airstrike option, nuke weapon pickup and "Army of the dead" spell.

id software does not tolerate such liberal thoughts. You are hereby banned for watching too many movies.

I also want vampiric attack aura, levitation powerup, drillgun that destroys walls, invisibility powerup, jetpack and roundhouse kick melee attack to replace boring gauntlet.

You could've simply said you want Chuck Norris.

I can see they took my sugestion of removing RA on dm6 and adding shards from sg to lg!

Shards are closer to LG than to SSG already?

ye, but i mean add 100 armour on shards on that corridor!

pls no hub.

dude pls, you're from poland. go find a new president or something.

You're from Croatia, enough said.

You're from Croatia, enough said.

You two are just jealous.

tough choice for a new nazi regim in germany. who should they attack first?

they should make a referendum about it

Ban.

What I want:

1. Hub
2. GTV?
3. New maps ffs!
4. Bug fixes
5. Different huds for Spec

What you got:

butt-raped.

*facepalm* hoe!

fixing duel respawn system and new maps would make me play it again

HUB!
NEWH DUEL MAPZ!
NEWH TDM MAPZ!
NEWH SPAWNZYZDEM!

DONT CARE BOUT DA REST.

motion blur, depth of field and hdr obviously

that would be awesome !!!!!!!!!11111einseinself













j/k :)

woah teh boenk

Got to say motion blur would be insane.

...insanely stupid

That would be great

what i want:

1. remove dm6 ztn dm7 dm14
2. add 5 new tdm maps and 3 new duelmaps
3. fix knock back on rockets
4. servers in Denmark, or a none buggy server in Sweden
5. GTV

*

we want the same things

"Fix knock back with rockets" what is the problem?

rockets in ql feels like q3 quad rockets. get hit and u fly 100 meters away.

Wow, removing maps must've been the most stupid thing anyone could think of.

no, adding hub is

gotta love how they cry they want dm6 and t4 out, and hub in
if id soft. would have give them hub and put out dm6 and t4 they should have cry for t4 and dm6 in and hub out

If it's a significant update, it will mean they will add something new instead of removing/changing something that's already there.

I want QLMME ffs! And cpm4.

-implementation of freezetag gametype
-2 new freezetag maps
-3 new summer character models that expire at the end of summer
-backend changes
-new summertime colors on the website

changelog right there ^

why do you want your backend changed??

What would be cool to get:
- Hub
- New maps (stress word on: new)
- GTV
- Premium/private servers
- Mini leagues/ladders (much like SC2)
- Inbuilt lobby system for pugs (kinda like L4D or something) or at least inbuilt irc/chat window
- Different spawn system
- Freezetag and maybe a couple other mods
- Customizable stats (if we really have to have them, at least let you reset them or something weekly or monthly to see ups and downs)
- Unranked 'mod' fun servers (pretty much devpick servers)



What we're gonna get:
- One (maybe two) TA maps
- 'server maintenance'
- Couple adverts about Quakecon with cringe-worthy pictures displayed on server browser window.
- Bright-skin Klesk model (maybe in accordance with summertime)
- 30 player low gravity CA servers (primarily on the maps ZTN and CTF4)


edit: actually, we'd be lucky to get half of the second list I made... but anyway

BUT ITS FREE YOU SHOULD BE GRATEFUL YOU DICK

Genital warts is free as well

Probably more enjoyable as well.


edit: okay, probably not, but still... it's free! :O

genital warts got a bigger chance of getting a decent update than QL though

Sad but true

The good news: Our !NEW! TDM Map 'Purgatory' will be added to QL (Ye, no joke)

The bad news: Not in this update

: )

(my guess for this update are the premium/private services)

(edited this 4 times now, wtf pls)

so where can we check out the map?

http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36774

What we need is a new map to replace dm6.

too late, game is dead.

not in eu tho :P

what I want and what esr wants:

-content, whatever it is.

prolly just gonna be the option to buy servers.. as that gives them actual cash directly. they dont give a fuck about maps or gtv, or a visible and interesting skillrating system like they have in chess. these niggaz dont have love for the game

if giving them cash also means that they will actually start working on ql again, then i would happily pay for my private server

same

On Tuesday an update comes
it will bring many things
for people who get their hopes up
will not know what to bring

For people who love quake
and play it in their room
will be quite happy next week
for their own world will come soon

people love to look
and also explore
for those people might be rewarded
but might need some more

to bring hate or love
no one will know
for this next update
might steal the show

People love things new
but also love the old
nostalgia can be potent
so expect nostalgia gold

quite the poet :O)

.

quite the poet NOT?

.

(:

quit the poet

dont hype it! so you wont be THAT disappointed after update :)

announced fail is fail
oh wait i wanted to say update ..ah noes.

LG back to 7-6-5, please. Constant 7 feels sometimes like xerped LG from CPMA.

no

Fuck, no.

gtfo

ralph, please stay.

<33333333333333333333333

personally I think it's creepier to ask ralph to stay when you think about the meme this line came from.

I'm pooping all over while two people have sex.

Would you do the horse?

I want the dog.

"I'll put the lg back to 7-6-5 when you give me back my shoes." - SyncError

.......

"rock is overpowered" - scissors

we're going to get some totally useless cvars and a few random fixes no one has experianced and maybe one shitty map (who am I kidding - id scratches their nuts more than they work on maps)

amirite?

nerf rocket speed to 950

1000 is too versatile/brainless

no

guess you don't play players with good dodging

Would be nice if...

NEW MAP LABORATORY -- (Upload user-created maps, once cleared that no copyright or non-id textures/models are included in the map, then players can RATE maps and leave reviews/comments on specifics that need to be adjusted, also new map tester/feedback awards)

IN-DEPTH MAP STATISTICS -- (Keeps track of where players died on a map and frequency, what weapons were used, and also the average and max speed of players, also draws an overlay on map of deaths/player-paths so a player can later analyze where they were killed multiple times and where their running path took them around the map)

MID-AIR MODE/WEAPONS SKILL MODE -- (exactly like it sounds, but also WEAPONS SKILL MODE, where players practice on small one room maps (like amphi or dmm4) with only one weapon)

CLAN-AREA KILLCAM -- (See your death replayed from enemy's POV immediately in-game before next round)

"CLAN-AREA KILLCAM -- (See your death replayed from enemy's POV immediately in-game before next round)"

sounds good :D

Goddamn, all of this is actually awesome :D

In case of map statistics I would really like to see something like that:
http://tecku.info/pd/files/media/screen/q3dm1...109050.jpg

I've done such charts basing on scores collected by bot watching server like any external game browser. In case of TDM and Duel it's very interesting how game flow looked like.

wow, displaying a score graph at the end is an awesome idea

Was in a QW client once..nothing new

doesnt need to be new to be a good idea

If id cannot integrate it then maybe the streamers can. This idea is a win by all means. Shoutcasters could use that graph to its fullest.

It's not that ID CAN'T integrate this (I sincerely hope they are not that inept), it's that they WON'T integrate this since they're too busy with worthless changes and additions such as awards or shitty no-grav servers.

As for integrating this, it's as easier than highschool c++

define 2 arrays team1[1200] and team2[1200]
on every second of the game

team1[current_second]=team1_score
team2[current_second]=team2_score

at the end of the game, plot the graph in a single, simple, for loop.

Yes they can. I used "cannot" because they're too busy playing god right now. With so much demand for so many things, they gotta show their "I ignored you.teehee" skills.

I was thinking more like a top-down layout view of the map and using colored lines to draw player paths thru the map. And putting an X where a player died and O where a player killed the other player from and have a bright-red arrow drawn from (O-->X) to indicate what O applied to which X.

This way a player can look at his after-game match results on ztn3tourney1 and see, "wow, I die a lot jumping to RA when my opponent is spamming from the two 25-hp bubbles near shards."

This would be more a newbie friendly thing, though.

Keep in mind that Halo 2 did this type of stat-tracking back in 2004/2005.

i'd also like to see a graph of mouse acceleration/velocity over time.

this way you could actually compare 2 replays and see if it's the same player, or notice nice player specific mouse movment.

e.g.

cypher's 360 as a large spike

cooller's overall mouse movent with little spikes all over the place.

fox really smooth and gradient velocity changes.

and so on

<@Comfort> This is only a maintenance update, and there will be nothing visibly changed to you guys. We do have a fairly large feature update and new dev blog in the works that will be landing in the near future.

This was last tuesday, so good to know 'near future' is actually the near future. Want to see the dev blog.

I can imagine the dev blog goes something like this:

SyncError wrote:
WHY DOESN'T ANYBODY LIKE OUR WORK?! WHAT ARE WE DOING WRONG? WHY DONT THEY LIKE ME

rofl :D, i can imagine sync going emo :D

oh and btw, ralph pls go.

no

I thought it to be less emo, more....well-


HAHA NOBODY LIKES OUR WORK! WE ARE DOING IT WRONG

just add hub for start, shouldn't be hard, + its worth more than having the option to make your grenades pink shiny and bubblewrapped or summer slash/baywatch skin or whatever the fuck.

osp style grenades would be cool actually, you know, that things that looked like pipe-bombs. i prefer them over the original q3 style.

hub3tourney1 would be nice, i agree

wasn't it cpma nades ?

isn't it hub3aeroq3 ? :D

as far as i know cg_altgrenades doesn't work in cpma and if you are talking about hub you could mean any map made by hubster. aerowalk isn't even his creation, he just changed some things of preachers original map :)

but i'm sure there's alternative nade model in cpma.

ok for the rest ^^

not sure, only played cpm tdm for 2 seasons in the good old barrysworld league :)

Or we could ... Not play hub for another 10 years and get some actual new maps. That would be cool too.

keep dm6,ztn & hub for another 10 years.

Add 2-3 new maps. Keep t7, remove t9 & dm13.

There you go.

:D

Would rather see dm13 and t9 stay over hub, =/. Just need to ween out dm6 and ztn. So ZzzzzZZZzzZzZz.

I still like dm6 & ztn, even after 10 years :D

all time classics tbh ;P

Why to remove any map? I dunno why we don't have 7 duel maps in the tournament's map pool.

well, tbh i think that even 5 maps is way enough =).

It's really hard to practice properly on 7 maps unless you can play 24/24 7/7 =)

oui, 24/7 is already trop much for me

;D

New tdm maps even just a map would be guud

Sync on Purgatory user made map:

"While for sake of conversation I was simplifying the complicated and delicate process of introducing community content to say that timing was the only issue, it is very important to note that we were and still currently are unable to accept community created content. However, this is an important issue to us, we understand the desire for community map creations and it is something that we hope to make possible in the future. In that sense, timing was not on the side of Yellack to hope for any sort of integration prior to our team publicly announcing a formal means of community map submissions."

Hopefully that happens soon, then at least there should be a stream/trickle of user made maps coming in. Maybe :)

There are tens of thousands of websites that not just allow user-made content in various forms, but are even intended solely as place for people to post their content on.
Yet somehow, what is already a common and easy thing for many thousands companies, is a huge, almost unsolvable problem for id software.
I think they're just a bunch of lazy asses. If they really wanted to incorporate user content, they could work out a solution in a week or so.

yet "somehow" explains how much you don't know about the how and why of it.. :)

coloured shaft this time pleeeease

ye me like to has teh pink shaft !

:D

affirmative action in qlive, black shaft does more damage.

shaft?

DYYYYNAMITE

can you dig it?

But the ladies love the black shaft!

wider selection of crosshair colors and more backend bs

I guess we will get... a "huge" amount of new awards

Read the development post:

No new employees or current employees are map developers, So the only possible updates for this tuesday will be:

- MVD possibly combined with a QLMME - there has been alot of talk in the QL forums about this, wolfcam and 3rd party developers creating different systems for a better demo experience.

- Backend for Private servers, with possible new commands and possible beginnings of ownership and RCON perhaps

- Further web developments to the site to make it aesthetically pleasing or flow better.

- New modes, Easy to implement - also the devpick servers could be a lead up to this point

In general, only small content updates.

What I can guarantee won't be included (and if any of this would be added i would seriously be amazed):

- New maps - no current developers
- Hub - QL team will never be able to supply this.

The only way you're going to get hub is if Id create a "maps.ql.com" domain where you can use maps there uploaded by other people with your private server.

- Private servers - Think about the increased serverload with everyone creating servers... It doesnt make sense. Ive also heard that they are still trying to negotiate the paying system and ownership issues.



How about someone with a focus testing account tells us?

just one question,
What increased server load??
If people pay ID and then spawn a server using their own bandwidth, for a per month fee(e.g.)
ID has no xtra server load and we're all happy isn't it?

But afaik, that's not how it works...

It uses the current Region Server Provider (exactly how it works now).

Unless of course this is changing, in which case would be interesting with P2P LOLLLLLLLLL

What i meant was, if increased server load is the problem, let people host their own, after paying the fee for being a premium member.
That way we're all happy.

I think that's too logical for Id development.

lol, yeah.
I think they should have an update on that as well.

"Changelog:
Id shall now start using logic as far as QL is concerned."

How about

-fix broken sound
-fix hitboxes
-add a few old and new maps, remove blatantly retarded ones
-GTV
-MVD demos by specs
-use own player model while spectating, I'm tired of hearing first-person keels.
-add option to reduce volume of own jump/pain/footstep sounds
-add detailed endmatch stats
-repair skill rating system
-let the community shape the game, not your single half-assed developer working 6 hours/week. That's the only way you can ever hope to have success.

Edit: I once read arQon was hired by ID as a QL programmer. Is that true? If yes, what the hell is he doing?

Edit: I once read arQon was hired by ID as a QL programmer. Is that true? If yes, what the hell is he doing?

getting assimilated into mediocrity. if you cant beat them, join them.

I think arQon was a contractor, not a complete and permanent id staff member. Whatever he did for QL, chances are his contract is over.

"add option to reduce volume of own jump/pain/footstep sounds"

lol ... u serious?

Yes, why not? Would you say it breaks quake's incredible realism?

no, but it breaks quake's incredible 3d sound system

+ r_nomip and I agree completely.

How about:

HLTV

How about:

NO

think twice, it's alright

Give up and make ETlive for once.

you mean RTCWlive

you mean Quakelivelive

you mean Dukelive

you mean UTlive

You mean UrbanTerrorLive

Actually, I'm pretty sure they'd make more money with urbanTerrorLive than they can do with QL.

I´m pretty sure 3DRealms is working on that.

3D realm closed last year??

I'm fine with either.

I haven't played much TDM in Qlive because in all games people just quits and destroys the games. Why not a autobalance team function and more settings votable. And some kind of ban for people who quits more then 2 games in one day or something?

Someone told me sometime ago that Qlive has weapon dropping, but I havent seen anybody using it. That should have a major impact on how the teamplay works in Qlive(but is it true?). And also maps to replace the OSP maps that was played in TDM tournaments. Playing dm6, dm7 and dm14 in it's almost baseq3 design is not so fun. So more TDM maps would make it alot more fun.

For 1v1 I get a strange feeling sometimes. It seems like one player always have some kind of edge over the other , I mean theres seems to be like 1 of the players can see the enemy before the enemy sees him. And it doesnt seem to be the one with the lowest ping. Some shots that you make when your about to die, you hear the sound of firing them but no shots are being made.
I would take the old netcode from the OSP era anygiven day over the code that Quakelive uses now. Just to get rid of all the strange shots that is being made in game right now.

And im also up for old maps like aerowalk to be added. I mean even if they are old maps and played out, it's more fun with more maps to choose from that is played somewhat diffrent then others. And with the changes in Quakelive when it comes to speed and weaponbalance this map could workout to be pretty neat to play(fast paced).

I'm against the ban. Anyone could join a TDM while it's in progress and may decide to quit based on their ping (because spectators cannot see what their own ping is!). Banning someone simply because they were trying out their ping would be stupid.

OSP netcode ftw!

Easy fix: Let the spectators see their ping aswell like we always did in OSP/CPMA. To check ping is not a good reason to join a ongoing game. The players playing can react and get a frag for free and items can be taken from the map, screwing up the timing that some player or team may have at the time. So for godsake make LOCKTEAM a feature aswell.

spec can see ping.

Yeah, just look at lagometer.

Wow, you really do have to learn a lot. :D

being able to play ql with google chrome would be good :)

Faggots are just getting to this now apparently.

i dont think its possible due to chrome's sandbox and plugin architecture

Used to be possible.

I stand corrected. It actually does! Google chrome utilizes the NSAPI which I'm pretty sure is the implementation the FF plugin uses, so I tested it yesterday with a fake user agent, and it works :)

fuck it, I want a pink rocket launcher!

and if you got time for some smaller things, I`d like to see wcp1 back!
#q3wcp1 !

dopefish please

ok lets be serious. We will get private servers or gtv

(from reference.com)
large - adjective,larg·er, larg·est, noun, adverb
–adjective
1.of more than average size, quantity, degree, etc.; exceeding that which is common to a kind or class; big; great: a large house; a large number; in large measure; to a large extent.
2.on a great scale: a large producer of kitchen equipment.
3.of great scope or range; extensive; broad.

Lets hope its this instead of "small", "disappointing" or "insignificant".

If there's no new maps i will fucking kill myself. Jesus fucking christ i would pay you guys to pay someone to make a new fucking map.

apparently if you know anyone in the legal field, that would help more, since every map issue is a legal one

Yeah i read all that crap, seems a bit weird to me, they somehow manage to pull it off with ztn, but no others?

.

Today is an update !!!!111111






:I

GTV

OMG ITS TODAY

I foresee some epic whine coming from the west and covering Europe volcano style during wednesday, this will subside as more and more people realise that theyve held on to their hope for too long.

Today id will fail at failing

does that mean theyr gonna succeed?

inb4 esr flood

inb4 the real shitstorm.

-super large ca confirmed

i lol'd

It will be nice to wake up to a good thread tomorrow :)

Yes, trolling never gets old.

realizing there wont be any new maps

there are some team arena maps left that have not been added to ql yet :o

A lot of them, actually :D

[20:19:59] <@SyncError|work> QUAKE LIVE will be going offline in 40 minutes for an update (3 pm CDT / 22:00 CET).

!!!!!1111111

omg omg omg

:DDDDDDDDDDDDD

[21:03:28] <@SyncError|work> Very soon we will be posting some changelog information.
[21:03:47] <@SyncError|work> Unlike previous updates you will not have to wait until we're done to read about what will be made available in the update.

!!!!!!!!111111111111

Thie to get dissapointed.

hahahahha at changelog, omfg what a joke

copy/paste


* Player Invite System - You can now invite players to join you in-game and/or accept fellow players invites. We have added a right-click context menu on the friends list which provides up to three options to perform on a friend: View Profile, Invite to Match, Join Match.
* Invite Monitor - Added the "Invite Monitor" which appears above the Duel Detective when you have pending match invitations.
* Blocked Player Improvements - All chat from players on your 'Blocked Players' list is now muted. This includes both in-game chat (chat, team chat, attacker chat, targeted chat) and XMPP chat (friends list chat, tell_buddy chat).
* Relaxed Spawn System - Minor adjustment to the spawn system algorithms, in many cases one additional spawn point will be included in the list of available spawn points. Further testing and improvements are planned.
* Global Broadcast Announcement System - Added support for delivering broadcast messages from the backend system to all users online. This will be used to inform players of important system information, such as when the site will be going down for maintenance.
* Match Browser Optimizations - Improved the performance of the Match Browser by limiting the number of requests it needs to make to the backend when hovering over matches. In the general case this change makes it so there are 1/6th as many backend requests made.
* Rich Presence Data - Increased the responsiveness of friends in-game icons. The method of reporting changes in status have been highly optimized and now update 'live'.
* Firefox 3.6.3+ Support - Fixed plug-in issues with newer versions of Firefox on Windows.

Start a Match System (this system is in limited beta and is not widely available yet)

* Match Visibility Modes - Added support for running private matches in multiple access modes: Public (all players), Friends Only, and Invitation only. The server will only be visible on the match browser to players who have access to join.
* Server Invite System - Added support for choosing friends who should be sent an automatic invite when the match has started.
* Custom Map Rotation - Added support for setting up a map rotation to be played on your private server.
* Improved Error Handling - Improved error handling in match startup so that users are informed why a match may have failed to start (Data Center overloaded, for example).
* Vicinity Locator - Added support for choosing "In My Vicinity" as a match startup location which will automatically choose an ideal data center based on your current GEOIP location.
* Optimized Game Invitation Strings - Join URL invite string length reduced for efficiency.
* Tiered Permission Groups - Organizations may spawn multiple servers at once without joining into matches. Individuals may spawn one server at a time and the server becomes available for others to join once the owner has joined the server.

Misc Fixes

* Fixed the calculations used for shotgun accuracy so that it is now calculated per pellet rather than per firing. If you fire a shotgun blast at an opponent and 2 of the 20 pellets hit, you will have a SG accuracy of 10% (because 10% of the pellets landed) rather than 100% (because a hit was obtained).
* Added heading images to the Match Browser indicating what matches are being displayed. This can be one of the following: Public Matches, Private Matches, Invited Matches.
* Changed the formatting of the tweet used in the "Share" button when choosing to share match results on Twitter.
* Fixed a grammatical error on match stats "Least Deaths" -> "Fewest Deaths"
* Fixed an issue where the "Forgot Your Password" page was not working.
* Fixed an issue where the standalone login page was sometimes not working (this page is mainly used when following a "Join Match" link before being logged into QUAKE LIVE)
* Fixed an issue where sometimes players on your friends list weren't showing up with the proper head icon, the proper cased name, or clan tag.
* Numerous plug-in updates to support current and future functionality.

that's all?


large update indeed :x

hope the dev blog is more interesting

also wondering what ""not widely available yet" exactly means

means you can't buy it yet

[22:29:28] <@SyncError|work> I'll be making a DevBlog post this evening
[22:29:30] <@SyncError|work> talking about maps.

ooo k....
good or bad news?

good one, trust me

I dont trust you, i trust ID only \o/

you still trust them?

HAHA
SIF TRUST

http://www.quakelive.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=32

"on christmas eve" would sound so much better

ok whats about new maps?

So.... any word on this all-mysterious DevBlog about maps?

apparently in his first draft he wrote too much stuff which the rest of id didn't quite want to be announced yet, so it needs rewrite after rewrite till they are happy (and prolly till nothing interesting is left).

It might be up mid-week.

after reading that I wondered 2 things:

1. Why did I bother asking
2. Why did I expect anything else.

Sigh.

B/c you still have hope. Big mistake.

lololol

my fail-o-meter is over 9000

"Large update" which changes nothing. Perhaps it would be better not to advertise it like it's going to change something so people wouldn't be so pissed off?

because the issue of shitty spawn system has never ever been raised? )

very major update innit. if you want to kill a game ofcourse

people will never be happy whatever you bring id, keep up the good work so far these last weeks !

+ it's a beta!

dem0n, man, what they bring to the people? Some interface crap and spawn system changes. That's all.

I see much more than that.

dem0n, "Start a Match System" is in limited. Without it, only some interface crap and spawn system changes.

interface crap.

what can you answer to such a low statement ? You can only //facepalm//

True.

Atleast we got news about maps :D

exactly!

Not even ONE new map? >_<

excuse me?

its not THAT bad when you think about it. this could have REALLY been pink lg and super large ca update, but now its like.. a start.. or something..

I think i would've preferred that.

Pretty sure they're adding some maps as well.

Not new maps mind >_>

In this pace of developing quakelive will reach the customization level of cpma in about 2 - 3 years :D

"shut up, play cpma if you dont like ql, ql is a new game!"

ID should have set cpma for a base and just add some new ideas in another updates.

cpma is brainless rushing :O)

you mean cpm.

i don't agree :)

yea cpm :)
looks like it tho, and the maps are designed to be rush only aswell.

Nah.

nah, really it's not ^^

it's just that the pace is faster soz it feels like it's rushy when you've played and/or watched vq3/ql only :)

well, in fact everything happens so fast that if you don't play the game it looks like 2 cyborgs spamming at each others :)

it's like when someone coming from counter-strike watch q3 for the first time ---> you can be sure that it will find it rushy :D

tbh if cpm was more popular i would play it regularly ^^

The fuck do counter-strike players see cpm as then? Time travel?

They just try to justify that they're alright in their cocoon.

They don't even understand what's happening.

;P

interesting

Fixed a grammatical error on match stats "Least Deaths" -> "Fewest Deaths"

nevermind they fixed it

.

they should fix this gramatical error too
"large quakelive update" -> "small quakelive update"

"Least Deaths" is a large mistake, so shut up

every update is like a big frustration cloud which spreads over the world

Damn it, why wasn't there a fixture for this? I would have loved to make some E$ on top of the QL fanboy tears that I'm drinking.

?

If there was a poll

A. It will be good
B. It will be shit

I can see 99% o $ESR go on option B ...

I think you underestimate the number of QL supporters that still frequent this site.

hub hub hub fingers crossed

ahh

the newest shipment of fail has come in

your reply made me laugh out loud irl. +-ed mate well done xD

prepare to laugh more often then (more patches coming in)

to critique the context of the title:

The word Large should refer to overall quality of the changes rather than quantity. Large entailing substantial or additional changes to the game/map values.

<3 xou none the less, just kinda got my hopes up :(

I honestly don't know...

They still haven't painted keel's penis pink....that's why it isn't a major update.

keel has no penis, it is a strap-on actually :(

That would have made it easier to make it pink :(

true :/

large as in more lines in the changelog than usual?

cant see anything interesting in that changelog.

Maps..............

At least some of the pros has spoken! This is the sign of.... something bad

yeah, when the people that play the games & get the most exposure are crying out for maps as well, that's pretty bad.

Only worse because they aren't delivered.

Maaan, what's up, they gave you invite system, what's wrong? :D
Oh, yeap, nobody cares about it.

sure we didnt get what "we wanted" but that doesnt make all the changes bad. its a useful thing

you are right about it not being bad, but would you have hyped it the way this was?

what point is an invite system when you can hover over a buddy's name and join the match he's in?

Your buddy get cool smooth alert with invite and he can push the cool button and join the match. Awesome.

are these in the form of another pop-up like when a buddy has come online or joined a game?

yarrr.. I'll tell you like commie to commie : stfu
or remove the flag
there cannot be any idiots yapping under it

the "rumor" is that there are maps coming really soon :EEEEE:e:F _F:F:F:EAF:_; A:_GMA_

Weel I dont see anything negative in the update. If this wasnt Hyped, it would have been a good update.

Good that I didn't have high hopes :-}

THOSE NEWH MAPZ R AWESUME!

I'm happy about the spawn system change.

i for 1 appreciate the update.
the only think is they might have hyped it to much, but still i like it, nice update

they didn't hyped it, we did

Saying it's large is hype..

they meant large downtime maybe :p

It's always good to get updates.

good update

At least it brings premium servers closer to reality. We might see some more work on new maps now that this is out of the way.

i am not sure that it does. they added a few features, but thats not what is missing. a way to sell them and a business plan is whats missing and the update doesnt bring us one step closer in that regard

it wouldnt make sens to bring in 'parts' of a business plan, it has to come as a whole oO

dont really get your point besides that you wanna defend id. he said we are getting closer with this update and i said that there is no indication for that, thats all.

they clearly said they wanted to get out of beta when the premium service is up and running.

Looking at these changes, yes, I think it is a step forward to the removal of the beta tag and the perspective for id staff members to start working on other stuff like game broadcasting, clan managements, map making contests, etc.

lets just hope you are right.
but tbh back before quakecon ql felt nearer to a release than now. after about a year of stagnation these few (yet usefull) additions to the server handling cant convince me. i would like to be proven wrong but they do not mention anything about it in the dev blog either :/

this is bullshit! and the worst part is they know that people would expect new maps for sure when they said "a large update.4-6 hrs server downtime" ..Man i started to believe they are enjoying this..damn

who said it was large????

id did

maybe it was a big update behind the scenes but to say it publicly is simple delusion. Fucking scary when the people that work there are probably pretty clever.

if this is any indication of their cleverness, then I would have to respectfully disagree.

Why not have the change log in a new post so we can discuss it there instead of amongst this crap?

Changelog : nothing

what a letdown, only useful thing is new spawns