At high speeds the player models lean in the direction they're travelling, meaning they move outside the hitbox.

setting cg_playerlean to 0 disables this and a value in between 0 and 1 scales the effect.

The upside would be you might see a change of direction more easily because the model is leaning in the direction before it starts to move.

Aye. Something that people seem to overlook or not mention when talking about this. The player lean is still quite noticeable (at least for keel) when someone is just moving around by running and can help show their change in direction. And as far as I know, while it might give a better representation of model to hitbox relationship, it'll do nothing to get rid of the "lagging hitbox" issue. I've tried it at 0 and still landed some wtf, how did that hit shots.

What's kinda funny is they give us all these little things we can turn off/adjust, but I do not believe there's anyway to turn off fallkick. Would rather that be adjustable by cg_kickscale than have cg_playerlean.

how can it possible lean _before_ you move?

Because moving has a delay, playerlean has less delay then movement so it is shown first.

we are talking about milliseconds right? because my strafe keys are pretty responsive.

It's because the player's model has a specific acceleration. You won't just start with 320 upm of speed when you start to walk. But the leaning of your model is a bit quicker. Therefore it might benefit your prediction aim when turned on. But as you already stated, we're talking about only a few mili seconds here. But again, this wouldn't be ESR if not for these 'minor' cvars ;)

/e: I just realized how old this thread is -_-

keke?
1 is the value that represents what we had before

0 headshot
1 missed headshot

???

hitbox is the same in both cases, so both are hits. but only 0 is the correct visualization of it

Like it was in quake4?

yeah, same thing was added there

so hitbox is represented better with value of 0 rather then 1? In that case it's surely better to use 0 if I'm not missing the point?

yes, 0 is the best representation
but player lean helps to indicate in which direction the model is moving. its kinda hard to read the dodging of an opponent with cg_playerlean 0
+ it looks ridiculous

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qriH-8yeqcE

1:29 movements like these? :D

:D

<3 this song

Might be a slight bit better to use 0 for the rail and something between 0.5 and 1 for the other weapons if you're more of a flick-click guy than a strafe aimer but it's either 100% in my head or you'd land like 3 more rails out of 372.

As has been said here, the command "cg_showPlayerLean" was added later in q3, and people found it funny when they saw the players running and leaning. Then the players don't lean were formerly in q3. And now in QL, when everyone knew that the players were lean as default, was introduced this new command, "cg_PlayerLean", to turn this off.

My question is: Why in q3 q before when nobody was lean, and this was added in QL now when everyone did, now was added a command to turn it off? All the world like of lean or not? It is better for BPH? At the pro players's CFGs in q3, nobody used it in lan. And now in ql, this fixes the lagging hitbox?

this has nothing to to with the hitbox, so it wont change anything regarding hit detection

it just comes down to preference, to me a slight player lean feels more natural and helps me see what direction a player is going to faster/better. so i use 0.5 (its not just on and off)
i could do without the cmd but i like that fact that its customizable

I must agree with u, players leaning helps ur predict more and eye reflexes.

people and pro players has been used it in q3 too?

people used to play with tankjr as the ennemy model, he barely leans at all so there was pretty much no difference.

"1"? What "1"? All I see is a drunken "7". :P

What was playerlean before update? Was there no playerlean (0 normal) or was there lean and they added 0 so that we can see something about hitbox shit..?

default gameplay:
cg_playerlean 1

did you every play or watch the game?

I hardly play quakelive anymore until they get paypal support, im playing cpma

i wanted to play with playerlean at 0, but i just laugh my ass off whenever i see someone running x:

try 0.5 then :P

i end up smiling unable to hit

Player lean was actually a later addition to q3, I remember people laughing their ass off when the models started leaning over for the first time.

i remember when people started playing quake3 over quake2! terrible times.

I play with 0.

thread necro!

cypher uses 1

//thread

that what i was looking for! :)

fuck cypher, what does cooller use?

cooller doesnt use cfg

in soviet russia cfg uses cooller

actually plausible