ESR - IEM5 American Championship Finals

<< Comment #1 @ 11:46 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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xou

Monitors: http://www.viewsonic.com/products/archive/vx922.htm

<< Comment #67 @ 02:52 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.180.118) - Reply to #1

Why aren't 125 hz monitors used?

<< Comment #74 @ 04:50 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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tbone - Reply to #67

They don't exist.

If you are referring to 120hz monitors, they are still expensive and there aren't that many of them around, most comps in the past 2 years have been using normal LCDs.

<< Comment #93 @ 06:39 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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wata - Reply to #74

what, you're suggesting they can't afford them ?

<< Comment #97 @ 07:06 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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tbone - Reply to #93

Who knows, I'm not in charge of their finances.

<< Comment #186 @ 13:08 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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ted - Reply to #1

Full 19" viewable screen with 1280x1024 resolution

people still use this?

<< Comment #194 @ 14:25 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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FienD - Reply to #1

Wow, 19" monitor that does 1280x1024? The 19" LCD I bought like 5 years ago did that.

<< Comment #195 @ 14:27 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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ted - Reply to #194

wish my barco would hurry up and get here

<< Comment #318 @ 12:50 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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annihiluzz - Reply to #194

wow man u so cool and rich

<< Comment #203 @ 16:04 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Lave - Reply to #1

i used a vx922 6 years ago.. is it still the best 19" lcd or smthng? :o

<< Comment #319 @ 12:51 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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annihiluzz - Reply to #203

u cool and rich too

<< Comment #323 @ 12:59 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lave - Reply to #319

thanks mate, have my shoes and cellphone
i can easily afford new ones because im rich and cool

<< Comment #327 @ 13:08 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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annihiluzz - Reply to #323

lol, if i want em i take em, dont need ur good heart

<< Comment #468 @ 18:16 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lave - Reply to #327

so im rich, cool and good hearted
gawd im awesome \:D/

<< Comment #2 @ 12:14 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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duumed

esl tv won't show ql until the semis? :/

<< Comment #3 @ 12:19 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #2

Correct!
But group matches will be covered by QL.tv

<< Comment #40 @ 16:56 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #3

so vods will be uploaded a year after

<< Comment #49 @ 19:09 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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nude-fox - Reply to #40

owned.tv now has an option to manually save recordings so the vod's will be right after the recording is finished. although they will not be labeled.

<< Comment #204 @ 16:32 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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FishStix - Reply to #49

I will make sure they are labeled, don't worry :)

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<< Comment #51 @ 19:58 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #40

Don't be cynical. Won't take more than a couple of months.

<< Comment #676 @ 13:48 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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xoji - Reply to #40

No, there will be no VODs and they'll continue to thank id software.

<< Comment #41 @ 16:58 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Dronar - Reply to #2

random streaming sites has better quality than ESLTV anyway :P

<< Comment #59 @ 23:17 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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duumed - Reply to #41

but the casters are usually worse :S

<< Comment #4 @ 12:20 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (77.223.241.137)

teh ceeeeeeeee zeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeem

<< Comment #5 @ 12:27 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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OSEF - Reply to #4

He is back in the business, able to win somes maps versus Dahang, Rapha, Chance ...

But i don't expect too much

<< Comment #10 @ 12:42 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Lave - Reply to #4

trained alot these days

<< Comment #24 @ 13:45 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Dynamix - Reply to #4

He's still losing Hub though man.

Sad times.

<< Comment #6 @ 12:35 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Carsomyr

Why would ESL hire TheGunRun to do commentary? He is the worst SC2 shoutcaster I've heard.

<< Comment #7 @ 12:38 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #6

Probably for the drinking game, each time he says "oh my god" you have to drink :)

<< Comment #8 @ 12:38 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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nude-fox - Reply to #6

no day9?

<< Comment #11 @ 12:44 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #8

What about him? I'd rather see him do it alone than with someone who will probably drag the whole thing down.

<< Comment #14 @ 12:55 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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nude-fox - Reply to #11

i was asking if day9 is going to be there or not, because i dont know.

<< Comment #22 @ 13:35 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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f0rk123 - Reply to #11

Well at least 1 of them can spot a 6 pool.

<< Comment #56 @ 20:43 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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zar4 - Reply to #6

Do you prefer apollo? Because i certainly don't.

<< Comment #77 @ 05:12 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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deotrip - Reply to #56

id prefer warwitch over gunrun. the guy is just bad!

<< Comment #153 @ 10:13 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (88.78.65.10) - Reply to #6

he really is painful to listen to :( i hope day9 just never stops talking

<< Comment #9 @ 12:39 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Kerchu

no zero4?

<< Comment #12 @ 12:46 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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nude-fox - Reply to #9

couldnt get work off

<< Comment #23 @ 13:40 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #12

we should go beat the shit out of his boss and gangrape his wife! How dare he fuck with our quakelive competitions

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<< Comment #13 @ 12:52 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Cwiru

Go Go DaHanG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by Cwiru at 12:53 CDT, 7 October 2010

<< Comment #20 @ 13:18 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #13

No.

<< Comment #15 @ 12:55 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Dix

add ze damn betz!!!!!

<< Comment #16 @ 13:02 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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amOKchen

czm won't fail us on lan!

<< Comment #17 @ 13:03 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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boenk

Fenix is from peru not canada

<< Comment #18 @ 13:10 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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luanswan2002

That is all.

Edited by luanswan2002 at 13:11 CDT, 7 October 2010

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<< Comment #45 @ 18:08 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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s1ash - Reply to #18

isnt buzz light year american?

<< Comment #61 @ 01:12 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #45

yea dahang is american

<< Comment #69 @ 04:15 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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n1ghty - Reply to #18

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Edited by n1ghty at 04:16 CDT, 8 October 2010

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<< Comment #75 @ 04:59 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #18

Wait a second! Those shoes look exactly like mine and they have disappeared recently!

<< Comment #82 @ 05:26 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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deji - Reply to #75

No big loss, those are hideous.

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<< Comment #196 @ 14:39 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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brz - Reply to #82

esr fashion police on da case

<< Comment #19 @ 13:12 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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scowl

group A > group B

<< Comment #25 @ 14:16 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Cwiru - Reply to #19

Uhm, and sun > betelgeuse

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<< Comment #21 @ 13:20 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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p4r4

czm & Vo0 for top2!

<< Comment #26 @ 14:51 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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outlaw

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Edited by outlaw at 15:53 CST, 11 November 2010

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<< Comment #44 @ 18:05 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #26

We all know what you got in yours

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<< Comment #81 @ 05:26 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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tourist - Reply to #26

I bet in your mind you killed yourself.

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<< Comment #150 @ 09:54 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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zevz - Reply to #26

The ALOT is everywhere!

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04...thing.html

Edited by zevz at 09:54 CDT, 8 October 2010

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<< Comment #152 @ 10:07 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #150

:D

Lave even trains his Alot!

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<< Comment #172 @ 11:21 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Lave - Reply to #152

y wud i do so. i hate pets alot!

<< Comment #182 @ 12:16 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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zevz - Reply to #172

I prefer wild alots too!

<< Comment #159 @ 10:31 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #150

Essential reading.

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zevz - Reply to #26

Edited by outlaw at 22:53 CET, 11 November 2010

pussy ^^

<< Comment #27 @ 15:03 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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ted

fixtures plx?

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<< Comment #33 @ 16:16 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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TUMULT - Reply to #27

this and

<< Comment #28 @ 15:04 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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calleking

finally something worth watching

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<< Comment #29 @ 15:06 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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FishStix

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy no ZeRo4 :((((((((((((

<< Comment #30 @ 15:09 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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gisele

FIXTURES PLZ NAO TY <3 :DD:D:D:D:D

p.s. - czm

Edited by gisele at 15:10 CDT, 7 October 2010

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<< Comment #34 @ 16:16 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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TUMULT - Reply to #30

that

<< Comment #46 @ 18:10 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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nard - Reply to #30

FIXTURES
BANKWIRE
TITTIES

<< Comment #68 @ 04:11 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #30

fixtures have been up for ages now and noone placed a single bet :[

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gisele - Reply to #68

I did! wooot! yay fixtures :D

+czm

<< Comment #47 @ 18:10 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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nirtal

Didn't dkt said he was going to quit playing quake?

<< Comment #48 @ 18:28 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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ted - Reply to #47

easier said than done

<< Comment #63 @ 01:39 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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weeja - Reply to #47

DKT said he was going to retire and what he meant was he was not going to focus most of his free time to a video game.

<< Comment #83 @ 05:37 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #47

geek, old joke.

<< Comment #31 @ 15:30 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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h8m3

wtf at those seeds
Group A looks so close while B is totally predictable

<< Comment #36 @ 16:17 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Lave - Reply to #31

voo > dahang right now
thats why. even chance might be better than him atm

<< Comment #38 @ 16:46 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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Gladius - Reply to #36

dno about Dahang's current form, but I thought he was far from his best at the IEM finals in august.

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h8m3 - Reply to #36

the thing is that group B = 2 clear group winners + 2 players worse than anyone from the other group which consists of only one bare favourite Vo0 + 3 players playing at nearly the same level(no offence to czm, he hasnt shown anything special last month)

<< Comment #94 @ 06:49 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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gyr0 - Reply to #88

ZeRo4 was originally in Group B but he got replaced by vamp1re

<< Comment #96 @ 07:04 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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h8m3 - Reply to #94

yeh i know but it sux as it is now :(

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Cwiru - Reply to #36

what ? ahahahahhah wher was voo, and where DaHanG on last big events ? Last match between voo - yes voo wins but its only one match. DaHanG beat Cypher last time on LAN, and almost beat cooller (lost 3:2) so i dont know what are you talking about

Edited by Cwiru at 11:56 CDT, 8 October 2010

<< Comment #32 @ 15:56 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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lolograde

CPM REPRAZENT

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<< Comment #35 @ 16:17 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude

FFS get zero4 back, who go and bomb his boss?

<< Comment #37 @ 16:31 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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ffx

Fuck I'm so screwed :**(
I will get my broadband not until next weak and I only have 2gig on my cellphone via umts.
I really want to see this I know there will be demos BUT I WANT TO SEE IT LIVE. So I doubt that I can watch the hq stream and even the low stream will eat up my 2g like nothing -__________-

- watch demos right after the game
- watch vods one week later (lql)
- screw it and watch it live and probably use all my 2g or jsut watch the semifinals and final

I have no idea how long I can watch with 1-2g. Zomfg need my flatrate :***/(

<< Comment #42 @ 17:17 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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pks - Reply to #37

The only logical solution is to fly to New York and watch it in person.

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kg - Reply to #42

Perfectly rational.

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ffx - Reply to #42

I'm a poor student :( Otherwise I would really consider it or buy enough volume to watch it :P
I hate moving.

<< Comment #71 @ 04:24 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #70

get a laptop on go to a place that has free wifi, hotel lobbies, libraries, etc.

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ffx - Reply to #71

Bought one but it will be delivered not until next week and I can't use the laptop from my housemate
because he is on a business trip. This said I don't know anyone in vienna because I moved only a few days ago. Nvm I'm gonna pick a few interesting games like Vo0 vs. czm and enjoy some games :P

<< Comment #73 @ 04:43 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #72

then apply for a weekend job at some company where you get a pc.
Spend all the time watching the games instead of working.
Get fired on sunday.

:P

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zealot - Reply to #72

you're a student? ffs go to uni and hook up to the surely amazing uni network. i did that last time we moved and it helped a lot :p

<< Comment #39 @ 16:46 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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fragmaster_

i'll be working til 12pm like right next to the javits center... hopefully the finals will be delayed so i can run over and check it out. do i have to pay a spectator fee or something like that?

Edited by fragmaster_ at 16:47 CDT, 7 October 2010

<< Comment #50 @ 19:11 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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outlaw

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Edited by outlaw at 15:54 CST, 11 November 2010

<< Comment #54 @ 20:29 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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zar4 - Reply to #50

Translation: get out of groups and i'll kill myself, considering you've said you was going to do that and didn't

<< Comment #57 @ 20:56 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #54

your one cold mother fucker :p

<< Comment #65 @ 02:10 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Twisp. - Reply to #57

he is just a teenager, he will get over it eventually.

<< Comment #52 @ 20:07 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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koOma

lmao@SC2. alltimes Terran : \

HuK's gonna take it anyway

<< Comment #53 @ 20:23 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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pks

Vo0, czm, rapha, DaHanG.

MAKE IT HAPPEN GUYS

<< Comment #58 @ 22:14 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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fazz ' - Reply to #53

this!

<< Comment #60 @ 00:03 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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erok - Reply to #53

my hopefuls!

<< Comment #55 @ 20:29 CDT, 7 October 2010 >>

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zar4

gonna be fun to watch czm and voo play, not going to be fun to watch a spinning logo for a few hours between each game + listen to noob QL.tv commentators

<< Comment #62 @ 01:37 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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exelf - Reply to #55

Spinning Logo > Games

<< Comment #66 @ 02:51 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.180.118)

Dear Quake Live TV,

can you PLEASE use thin shaft like any half-decent Quake Live caster does.

Thanks.

<< Comment #84 @ 05:38 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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GUArd - Reply to #66

no, thanks.

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<< Comment #98 @ 07:34 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54) - Reply to #66

What's the command for it? I've been wanting to use it, but I can't find the command!

<< Comment #100 @ 07:47 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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stingerrayer - Reply to #98

cg_lightningstyle 4

<< Comment #64 @ 01:52 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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weeja

go dkt and rapha!

<< Comment #78 @ 05:13 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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G.I. Jonesy

What happened to z4? Didn't he qualify?

<< Comment #87 @ 05:40 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #78

he did qualify, but: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/newyork/news/135754/

still dont know why :/

<< Comment #207 @ 17:03 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #87

thought someone said he couldn't get off work or something

<< Comment #79 @ 05:23 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Six16

Go Vo0!!!!!!!

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<< Comment #80 @ 05:23 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Six16 - Reply to #79

also czm!

<< Comment #85 @ 05:38 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Nukm

no canadians at all :/

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<< Comment #176 @ 11:38 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #85

Starcraft 2 has more canadians then americans :D
Which is ironic since America has a lot more people.

<< Comment #86 @ 05:39 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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GUArd

I don't like voO like person (what I saw from internet), but his gamestyle is realy nice. I say gl for him and shane. ofcors gl to czm too.

<< Comment #92 @ 06:12 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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dAND3h

Will this be on schedule? :D

<< Comment #99 @ 07:41 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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obi - Reply to #92

Valve schedule.

<< Comment #101 @ 07:56 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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LukKe - Reply to #92

if you mean on usual QL tourney schedule then yes, definitely

anyway.. go CZM!

<< Comment #89 @ 05:56 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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therm

fucking shame

Edited by 7herm at 05:56 CDT, 8 October 2010

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Nukm - Reply to #89

i read "fucking shane" when i went to approve the pic, glad i was wrong ;)

<< Comment #91 @ 06:03 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #90

fucking shane

<< Comment #95 @ 06:53 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #91

fuck insane

<< Comment #102 @ 08:04 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Inane

inb4 a billion premium restreams by the sc community

<< Comment #103 @ 08:49 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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mefajpE^

no games today, rofl.

<< Comment #104 @ 08:50 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #103

technical difficulties strikes again hhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaa

<< Comment #105 @ 08:54 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #104

Can ZeRo4 make it for tomorrow then? ;D

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<< Comment #142 @ 09:33 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (80.53.159.11) - Reply to #104

before that I was against about any conspiracy theory but now... I bet its blizzard's work so more viewers will switch to sc2 matches, seriously WTF

<< Comment #141 @ 09:33 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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r0m4n - Reply to #104

omfg

<< Comment #106 @ 09:01 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN

Failed before it even started?

<< Comment #140 @ 09:33 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (80.149.203.44)

Bring back the spinnin' QL logo pls *thumbsup*

<< Comment #107 @ 09:03 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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duumed

rofl

<< Comment #108 @ 09:03 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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esdf '

yet again?

<< Comment #109 @ 09:04 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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p4r4

id software. Screwing up QL LAN servers since 2008.

<< Comment #110 @ 09:04 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Fejl(Folklore)

Delayed my ass;(((

Edited by Fejl(Folklore) at 09:07 CDT, 8 October 2010

<< Comment #111 @ 09:07 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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kevz

jesus christ, how fucking hard can it be id retards?

<< Comment #112 @ 09:07 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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_flx

id Software delivers.
As usual.

<< Comment #113 @ 09:08 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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gisele

oh hell no :(

<< Comment #114 @ 09:09 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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LukKe

lol, if only i could bet all my life savings on the fact, that ql tourney will never ever start on schedule..

<< Comment #115 @ 09:09 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Six16

* Sadly, QLTV's coverage of ESL IEM 5 Quake Live Championship Finals will be DELAYED until tomorrow at 10am EDT due to tech issues at event

FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

<< Comment #117 @ 09:10 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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obi

fuck you id, dumb shits

<< Comment #118 @ 09:12 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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ins

Update: Sadly, the Quakelive matches are cancelled for Friday as id Software couldn't get the LAN server ready. Day 1 will only be about SC2 and CS!
lmao

<< Comment #170 @ 11:07 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Allancer - Reply to #118

i asked for a fixture for this but nobody made it :<

<< Comment #139 @ 09:33 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (78.61.211.223)

even zotac streams a working better than id..

<< Comment #119 @ 09:13 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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obi

Guess I'll watch Starcraft and try and figure out wtf is going on

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<< Comment #120 @ 09:14 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
CK!

dumb organisers

<< Comment #121 @ 09:15 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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zealot

seriously, a one-day delay before even one game began?

<< Comment #122 @ 09:15 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Dronar

No sc2 on the streams yet either... :/

<< Comment #123 @ 09:15 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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stingerrayer

I am shocked.

<< Comment #124 @ 09:15 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Mav_

Update: Sadly, the Quakelive matches are cancelled for Friday as id Software couldn't get the LAN server ready.

Seriously, Quake Live sucks.

<< Comment #125 @ 09:16 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Bloodpa1nt

Hahah, nice one id.

<< Comment #126 @ 09:18 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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hnns

isn't it like 10AM in new york? i wonder what happened that made them give up so quickly

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<< Comment #127 @ 09:18 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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bob_faurisson

I have to confess... Those ID guys never cease to amaze me. It's like the worst level of mediocrity you've ever see and yet, it goes on and on for years and nothing changes. They're even finding people willing to give them money to support them.

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<< Comment #128 @ 09:18 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Kerchu

not even surprised

<< Comment #129 @ 09:18 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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gyr0

1. Collect money from the community for 1 year.
2. Treat the community like shit for 11 months.
3. Promise a big update a month before subscriptions end and collect money for another 1 year.
4. Profit.

Fuck you id

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<< Comment #132 @ 09:21 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #129

hey, be fair to id, they have already treated the community like shit before they started taking money ;)

<< Comment #133 @ 09:24 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Kerchu - Reply to #132

yea,at least they are constant

<< Comment #130 @ 09:19 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Nukm

seriously id? again problems with the offline server?!

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<< Comment #131 @ 09:20 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Aquashark

fuck you id, seriously

<< Comment #134 @ 09:25 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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jamalz

time to curbstomp syncerror

<< Comment #135 @ 09:26 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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nude-fox

how can you fail setting up your own lan server?
every single fucking time.

<< Comment #138 @ 09:33 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (78.61.211.223)

The greatest moment in the world history of the e-sports. NOT

<< Comment #136 @ 09:27 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Derb_

fuck a nigga named syncerror. cocksucker

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<< Comment #137 @ 09:33 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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tweenz

the amount of sheer stupidity and/or carelessness and/or fail from id continues to amaze me.

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<< Comment #143 @ 09:35 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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z3R0`

need VLC STREAM LINK, http://www.quake-live.tv/live.php shows me octoshapeclient.exe error :(

<< Comment #145 @ 09:40 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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obi - Reply to #143

...read the thread?

<< Comment #144 @ 09:39 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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browser

so is there anything watchable going on right now?

<< Comment #146 @ 09:40 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Kerchu - Reply to #144

sc2 caming s00n

<< Comment #147 @ 09:47 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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jamalz

Anyone got starcraft stream VLC link?

<< Comment #180 @ 12:14 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #147

try http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms2/0/0MediaPlayer+0+/esl.oph350/esloph350

need to have octoshape running obv

<< Comment #148 @ 09:50 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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hnns

FAIL

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<< Comment #149 @ 09:51 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Dynamix

Oh for fuck's sake really...

<< Comment #151 @ 09:56 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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dansen

i'm surprised

<< Comment #157 @ 10:26 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (75.51.174.111)

This sounds gay, but I really like TheGunrun's voice.
He Looks a lot different than I thought.

<< Comment #154 @ 10:15 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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boenk

haha quake live fails again ..

hello id software, i know how to fix your problems, try:

"X:\Quake 3 Arena\quake3.exe" +set fs_game osp +set dedicated 1 +exec 1v1.cfg

worked 10 years ago and did not even require teh internetz

<< Comment #155 @ 10:17 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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zoN-

The voice of the guy who isnt day9 fucking sucks jesus christ.

<< Comment #156 @ 10:19 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Kruzz

This is fucked up.. id cant even handle their own servers right.. why dopnt we just play q3 like old times ;) OSP FTW! *insert whine here*

<< Comment #158 @ 10:30 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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nude-fox

[08:27] * id (mibbit@sslvpn.idsoftware.com) has joined #ql.tv
[08:27] <id> The lan server didn't get setup in time
[08:27] <id> because ESL brought the wrong computer to the event.

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<< Comment #162 @ 10:41 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #158

If only the endless happiness that playing a ten year old game in a browser is didn't come with a downside.

<< Comment #163 @ 10:43 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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esdf ' - Reply to #158

lol, so it even isnt id's fault. how very epic idd.

<< Comment #167 @ 10:55 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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ffx - Reply to #163

Ofc not. You need a very specific computer to host a server for a browser game. Maybe ask Nasa to jump in and help :D

Morons :x

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<< Comment #165 @ 10:55 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #158

That's not really what I heard yesterday during the set up, but I'm merely involved and I'm not putting the blame on anyone :]

They couldn't get the server ready, that's all I know, and I sure dunno what the reason is.

<< Comment #173 @ 11:22 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude - Reply to #158

lame

<< Comment #174 @ 11:25 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #158

What, they brought a computer that wasn't AGP sanctioned? Oh, how dumb, ESL...

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<< Comment #160 @ 10:34 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Teen Queen '

id Software =^DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

<< Comment #161 @ 10:40 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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kg

You still need octoshape to watch this?

<< Comment #164 @ 10:44 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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nude-fox - Reply to #161

not for the alternate stream

<< Comment #166 @ 10:55 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #164

Which is?

<< Comment #168 @ 10:58 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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nude-fox - Reply to #166

if your not smart enough scroll up and click stream informations you should probably worry

<< Comment #169 @ 11:06 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #168

:)

<< Comment #171 @ 11:14 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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xou

QL schedule is updated, but I'm not sure who will stream what. I'll update again when it gets released.

<< Comment #175 @ 11:33 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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0x5f3759df

fucking octo plugin

<< Comment #177 @ 11:52 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Carsomyr

Where's the high quality stream? All I get is this shit:

http://imgur.com/DtE2C.jpg

Edit: How do I post pics here?

Edited by Carsomyr at 11:52 CDT, 8 October 2010

<< Comment #181 @ 12:15 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Bob - Reply to #177

.

Edited by Bob at 14:49 CDT, 26 June 2024

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<< Comment #184 @ 12:27 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.183.110)

Viewsonic vx922 MSRP is $345. Samsung 2333rz (120 hz) was 199 euros at one point. Roughly equivalent.

<< Comment #179 @ 12:13 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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nude-fox

can z4 play now?

<< Comment #183 @ 12:23 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Trance

1. wow the stream quality is so bad (SC2)

2. TheGunrun is Asian. Like wtf, never ever would have pictured him as an asian with that fairy voice.

3. lmao@QL LAN servers

<< Comment #185 @ 12:31 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Roswell47 - Reply to #183

4. wtf@5starhotellobbybarpianomusic :D

the stream qaulity is a least a little better than Cologne

<< Comment #188 @ 13:24 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #183

SC2 in premium quality actually looks great, it's even watchable in full screen. Too bad that for me only the octoshape stream works and not the edge one that doesn't require any external apps.

<< Comment #205 @ 16:41 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Bob - Reply to #183

.

Edited by Bob at 14:49 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #219 @ 19:03 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Trance - Reply to #205

No just because...he didn't sound like someone with asian roots in my mind.

And yes, he probably was born and raised in USA. I guess voices (same as appearances) can be deceiving.

Edited by Trance at 19:03 CDT, 8 October 2010

<< Comment #223 @ 19:29 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Bob - Reply to #219

.

Edited by Bob at 14:50 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #187 @ 13:24 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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clan519

How hard would it be to code a Qlive clone from Q3 source using what they have probably stolen from cpma and osp anyway? I mean, they changed hitboxes slightly and netcode, some damage here and there, tightened up some of the maps, but those could be easily ported.

Plus all Qlive does for stats is pull some information from a generated xml-style file and dump it on a web front end. Someone could make a lite version of this where you just had your name (no logins, etc) associated with your cd-key and your stats could be uploaded via a little applet after each game.

<< Comment #193 @ 13:54 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Magician - Reply to #187

wooo, someone just finished programming for dummies

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<< Comment #200 @ 15:37 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #193

and it seems like hes already miles ahead of what id software has accomplished the last 2 years.

derp.

<< Comment #189 @ 13:34 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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becks

to make the best out of the fail, I reopened the fixtures until 13:00 CEST tomorrow.

Sure hope ESL isn't getting up early :)

<< Comment #190 @ 13:41 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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eThaD - Reply to #189

Wrong fixtures, man. You should add something like "id software vs LAN server"

<< Comment #192 @ 13:48 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #190

I actually thought about doing that when the fail was announced.
But I didn't know what odds I should put in.

Edited by becks at 13:49 CDT, 8 October 2010

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deji - Reply to #192

It would be nice to have a fixture up before a LAN starts.

"Will QL start on the day it's scheduled?"

<< Comment #208 @ 17:08 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #206

It's would be not a fixture, but a rhetorical question.

<< Comment #213 @ 17:47 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #206

odds would be 2%:98%

<< Comment #228 @ 01:52 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #190

sounds more like a court case

<< Comment #191 @ 13:48 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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xou

Drewbie !

<< Comment #197 @ 14:40 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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u3a6

where is zero4? am i missing something? why there is no z4 on groups?

<< Comment #198 @ 15:04 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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bob_faurisson - Reply to #197

Zero4 cleaverly avoided this conversation :

John H. : I'll take a day off tomorrow to attend a video game sport competition this week-end
Co-worker : Are you kidding me ?
John : I'm zuper zerious, its a very big national championship in New-York with all the best players from USA. Its not a joke, its a sport, a sport of the future who has nothing to envy from any "real sport". What do you like ? hitting a ball with a piece of wood ? Come on... Who's kidding who ?
Co-worker : Ok ok, go then.

The next day :

Co-worker : So, How was it ?
John : Well... actually, there werent no competition, the computers bugged....

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<< Comment #201 @ 15:50 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #198

Co-worker : So, How was it ?
John : Well... actually, there werent no competition, the computers bugged.... mind if I skip job today as well?
Co-worker: Yeah, you obviously proved yourself trustworthy the other day.

<< Comment #202 @ 15:50 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude - Reply to #198

Loled so hard

<< Comment #199 @ 15:17 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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stankuo

TheGunrun sucks at casting.

<< Comment #209 @ 17:18 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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xou

CZM / DAHANG SHOW MATCH NEXT !

<< Comment #211 @ 17:38 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #209

Aerowalk - 14:9 for czm

Edited by xou at 08:53 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #212 @ 17:39 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #209

Hektik - 18:8 for DaHanG

Edited by xou at 08:54 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #215 @ 17:50 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #209

ztn - 13:5 for DaHanG

Edited by xou at 08:54 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #218 @ 18:54 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Ruin - Reply to #215

czm won all three?

<< Comment #220 @ 19:08 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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stingerrayer - Reply to #218

he won aerowalk and lost the other 2

<< Comment #221 @ 19:22 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #220

thanks. seems like dahang still not comfortable on aero, but ofc czm practically wears aero nikes.

<< Comment #225 @ 20:16 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Ruin - Reply to #220

nice to see that he still got it on aerowalk

<< Comment #241 @ 08:54 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #218

Added winner's nick

<< Comment #216 @ 18:09 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #209

The fuck? There better be VODs...

<< Comment #233 @ 04:11 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Bob - Reply to #216

.

Edited by Bob at 14:50 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #226 @ 21:21 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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s3nse - Reply to #209

any demos?

<< Comment #240 @ 08:46 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #226

Not that I heard of

<< Comment #210 @ 17:25 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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FishStix

KiWiKaKi vs. Fenix was a fun match to watch :)

<< Comment #214 @ 17:48 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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stankuo

CARMAC WHERE IS YOUR HAIR?!

<< Comment #231 @ 03:01 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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TUMULT - Reply to #214

carmac cancer his hair

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<< Comment #217 @ 18:09 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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zar4

why was the stream quality so god awful? this is 2010, felt like i was watching WCG 2002

Edited by zar4 at 18:10 CDT, 8 October 2010

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<< Comment #222 @ 19:26 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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oneroomdisco

The stream frate rate was AWESOME, and as a result the quality dipped a bit.

I still loved it though :D

<< Comment #224 @ 19:55 CDT, 8 October 2010 >>

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Teen Queen '

The stream frate rate was AWESOME, and as a result the quality dipped a bit.

Agreed. It felt incredibly fluid. However, the quality was at its bare minimum.

Edited by Anhedonic at 19:56 CDT, 8 October 2010

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kevz - Reply to #224

ye, woulda been better at double the bitrate but on 30 fps, not 60

seems that the entire teamliquid irc channel i was in disagreed though :|

<< Comment #229 @ 02:20 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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rareh

I WANT CEZEME INTARVIWES!

<< Comment #230 @ 02:58 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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therm

VODS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN!

oh wait

<< Comment #232 @ 04:00 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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gyr0

Get czm config and find out if he still uses mx300!

<< Comment #234 @ 06:21 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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cerb0z - Reply to #232

Decrypt it:
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1971155

<< Comment #236 @ 07:03 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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gyr0 - Reply to #234

It's Kinzu i guess

<< Comment #235 @ 06:55 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #232

Edited by ZeritoN at 06:56 CDT, 9 October 2010

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<< Comment #238 @ 07:28 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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gyr0 - Reply to #235

Thanks man, hopefully ESL will get configs from all the players

<< Comment #788 @ 16:41 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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Fejl(Folklore) - Reply to #238

Have they put out all there configs yet?

<< Comment #838 @ 17:12 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #238

http://gouzouboudou.free.fr/QuakeLive/IEM5%20AC%20Finals/

<< Comment #239 @ 08:38 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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langley - Reply to #235

vyoh is cute

[ + ]

<< Comment #257 @ 09:51 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #235

hahahahaha

lmao

<< Comment #471 @ 18:40 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #235

Hmmm, he REALLY dropped his sens if those values are true.

<< Comment #476 @ 19:17 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #471

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1971683#pid1971683

He is using a small amount of accel I believe. Not a huge amount. When I was sitting in on some DaHang vs CZM practice matches he was switching between high sens with no accel to that 3.5 with some accel and his rockets were so much more consistent with the high sens but hitscan suffered a tiny bit.

<< Comment #775 @ 13:57 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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ia - Reply to #471

400 DPI on the kinzu isn't necessarily the same as 400dpi on an mx300, due to additional driver settings.

<< Comment #682 @ 14:39 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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tourist - Reply to #235

I actually saw his mouse lose tracking a few times, think he even killed him self on one or two occasions because of it.

<< Comment #755 @ 10:33 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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per1klez - Reply to #235

ho ho ho, you told someone they suck. you so funnnnnny.

retard.

<< Comment #756 @ 11:11 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #755

Yes, because that was defiantly me.

Retard.

<< Comment #757 @ 11:19 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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per1klez - Reply to #756

heh, even worse: you posted it thinking it was funny.

kids so desperate for [ + ] these days

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becks - Reply to #757

he posted it in a reply to this: "Get czm config and find out if he still uses mx300! "

Tell me, or highly-intelligent per1klez, is that question answered in the picture, yes or no?

retard.

<< Comment #768 @ 12:49 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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per1klez - Reply to #762

Yes, thats why a "he used kinzu this tournament" wouldn't suffice.

becks you never could defend trolls very well. Maybe its because you are one.

<< Comment #769 @ 13:09 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #768

ah, so you decide the way people must reply to questions, now?

Bit full of yourself, considering you must be a frightened kid, when you see trolls everywhere.

<< Comment #770 @ 13:24 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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per1klez - Reply to #769

nah, but I will always defend American players since they have been the constant pioneers of the game: Always raising the bar and winning when it counts. Something you "frightened kids" will always be in denial about - hence the retardation ^^^

<< Comment #771 @ 13:42 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #770

ah yes, that must be why you chose the Swedish flag as your avatar.

<< Comment #772 @ 13:44 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #770

you are probably too young to remember the first transatlantic matchup so here:

http://www.angelfire.com/me4/joeyadonis/3-q1-qw.html#drvc9

<< Comment #773 @ 13:54 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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per1klez - Reply to #772

Did you really just link to a Q3test match... omg i've been completely refuted.

<< Comment #777 @ 14:02 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #773

epic.

<< Comment #824 @ 11:29 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #768

Or I could save time and post a picture with czm confirming himself what his mouse settings and mouse are? If I just said "he's using kinzu with blahablah settings" inevitably someone would ask how I know this..

<< Comment #829 @ 04:55 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #824

too much logic at once, now he'll just tilt :[

<< Comment #766 @ 12:46 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #757

What Becks said.

Please [+] me or I'll die a little on the inside

<< Comment #237 @ 07:04 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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obi

So what time is this sceduled for? 2 hours time?

<< Comment #253 @ 09:49 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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eloziomeek

Will there be any non-octoshape stream? Will anyone else restream for those who can't get octoshape plugin to work?

<< Comment #242 @ 08:55 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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u3a6

In Democrat america, QL LAn servers play you!

<< Comment #243 @ 09:04 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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scowl

yay, screen saver and unnecessary metal music.

<< Comment #244 @ 09:16 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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stlava

For linux users:

-url:tetv.esltv.external

<< Comment #246 @ 09:21 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #244

hum they changed channel again :/

<< Comment #251 @ 09:44 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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stlava - Reply to #246

Both are correct afaik. qltv is using octoshape the one i posted was for qltv. Sorry for the confusion.

<< Comment #259 @ 09:53 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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TronicGgG - Reply to #246

cs&sc are esl.oph350
qltv is tetv.esltv.external

<< Comment #261 @ 09:58 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #259

Aya okay!

<< Comment #245 @ 09:17 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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scowl

down for everyone? :/

<< Comment #247 @ 09:38 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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yikes - Reply to #245

Had to open it in IE before it worked. :/

<< Comment #248 @ 09:39 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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RMS

chance deserved that ztn win. but his aim sucked

<< Comment #252 @ 09:49 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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riotty

in FiereFox it's ok. Vo0 ftw!

<< Comment #249 @ 09:41 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Inane

is there any possibility of getting a VLC link for this? stream wont work and QLtv dont know how to fix any problems relating to octoshape

<< Comment #254 @ 09:49 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Inane - Reply to #249

got it myself
http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms2/0/0MediaPlayer+0+/t...v.external

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<< Comment #258 @ 09:52 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #254

please post how you fucking get that, i tried like 20 times with firebug, pos

<< Comment #265 @ 10:14 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Inane - Reply to #258

I actually got a link out of a teamliquid thread which was slightly different ( http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms2/0/0MediaPlayer+0+/t...sltv.proxy )
and on a hunch I just looked for something that looked similar in the page source on the QLTV stream page (FlashVars="channel=tetv.esltv.external")
i tried just changing the last bit but that doesn't work, so i changed both bits at the end instead
sorry i don't actually know shit about octoshape or how these links work it just made sense to me

Edited by Inane at 10:15 CDT, 9 October 2010

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<< Comment #288 @ 11:21 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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gisele - Reply to #265

tyvm

<< Comment #380 @ 14:31 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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butcher_kgp - Reply to #265

cool.

<< Comment #250 @ 09:43 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ffx

Demos plzzz azap

<< Comment #260 @ 09:53 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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riotty

Nice rocketjob from VoO \:D/

<< Comment #255 @ 09:49 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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twister

vo0 aka if-22?

<< Comment #256 @ 09:50 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #255

blasphemy

<< Comment #262 @ 10:04 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ArchaiK

lol close one.

<< Comment #263 @ 10:06 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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T1E

vo0 tries to jump around corners as if it was cpm..

<< Comment #281 @ 10:40 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (208.53.142.39)

why did they swap czm for that noob ultrono?

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<< Comment #264 @ 10:11 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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TUMULT

go ultrono

<< Comment #280 @ 10:40 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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riotty

hehe czm's nickname is just like game Ultrono arena - simple but with badass gameplay with insane bots

<< Comment #283 @ 11:02 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #280

czm made ultrono arena.

<< Comment #287 @ 11:17 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #280

ROFL NEWB.

<< Comment #266 @ 10:15 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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tbone

is there a really shit steam out there that I might be able to watch?

<< Comment #279 @ 10:40 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (80.0.149.218)

Can anyone at this event aim an lg?

<< Comment #267 @ 10:17 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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cityy

The stream is total bs... fuck this whole streaming thing am i rite.

<< Comment #268 @ 10:19 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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mistermojo

http://www.quake-live.tv/live.php is great...

but it sounds like semis and finals will be using the shit ESL stream

<< Comment #269 @ 10:21 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ffx

Someone should upload the fucking demos otherwise I'm gonna kill a kitten! C'mon a stupid demo doesn't take that long to upload (1,5 mb if I'm not wrong).

<< Comment #270 @ 10:21 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun

If I may indulge in some Blasphemy a second:

Hektik > ZTN
Phrantic > T4
T9 > Lost World

<< Comment #278 @ 10:40 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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blind_

any chance for some LQ stream/restream?

<< Comment #271 @ 10:27 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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mefajpE^

suck it dkt

<< Comment #272 @ 10:31 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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GrotesK

DKT HAS LOST IT.. CHAIRS ALL OVER THE PLACE..

<< Comment #273 @ 10:31 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lethe

lol czm is so awesome

crap lg all over the place and then when it matters some crazy zoom whatever BANG 90% shaft dkt goes like "wtf?"

<< Comment #274 @ 10:32 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude

damn, watch the rapha game dumb ass!

<< Comment #275 @ 10:33 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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.syL

I wish americans would just finally give up on gamesurge and welcome their quakenet overlords

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<< Comment #276 @ 10:34 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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GreenMeanie

>>> ESL TV without Octoshape <<<
YAYAYAYA!

<< Comment #277 @ 10:36 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Nukm

out with disemberment and in with the updated battleforged :o

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<< Comment #355 @ 13:32 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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pharrow - Reply to #277

this or phrantic

<< Comment #282 @ 10:41 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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clan519

these casters.. are the worst. literally clueless.

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<< Comment #285 @ 11:05 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #282

I've heard way worse man, so I'm fine with them.. a mute button for them would work too though..

<< Comment #286 @ 11:06 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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bob_faurisson - Reply to #282

Is the Greasedscotman paid by ID ???

If he's not, he should :

-stop licking their balls for free
-apply for a job there. It looks like he meets all the qualifications.

Edited by bob_faurisson at 11:06 CDT, 9 October 2010

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kg - Reply to #286

:D

<< Comment #284 @ 11:03 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude

C'mon casters, you can't even read the result?

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<< Comment #290 @ 11:40 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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kg

i'll just wait for vods :@

<< Comment #291 @ 11:45 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Xsi

How to make rail looks like this one on stream?

<< Comment #301 @ 12:00 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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tifu - Reply to #291

r_railsegmentlenght 1 and r_railwidth > r_railcorewidth (or other way around)

<< Comment #303 @ 12:05 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Xsi - Reply to #301

thank you sir

<< Comment #292 @ 11:46 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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RMS

"we are tied for the lead ladies and gentlemen!"
lol

<< Comment #293 @ 11:46 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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jamalz

CZM's psycho power taking over, he's going ballsdeep in chance

<< Comment #294 @ 11:51 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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mefajpE^

suck it chance.

<< Comment #295 @ 11:52 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ted

lol chance blows

k but seriously wtf... same maps over and over?

<< Comment #322 @ 12:58 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Mav_ - Reply to #295

I'm not 100% sure but I think that the maps are decided by tossing only, not picking. So, if I'm right it's toss, toss, toss, toss. Then 3 maps that are played stay and you only pick the order.

That would explain why some maps are just tossed every single time. Stupid rule, to be honest, as it makes introducing a 7 maps mappool pretty much useless.

<< Comment #297 @ 11:55 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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riotty

well CZM is in semis, gonna be cool vs rapha or dahang

<< Comment #300 @ 11:59 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #297

smt tells me hes gonna get owned hard

czm's not playing that well sadly :/

<< Comment #296 @ 11:55 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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twister

Cant really understand what it is about czm :D
Most of the time during the games he seems to be really spot on, good aim, smart play.
But then in some situations he just shots horribly and makes dumb decisions that even i could have done much better :O)

hope he can get into the zone for the playoffs !

<< Comment #503 @ 01:54 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #296

I think it's lack of experience in QL and generally the "slowness" of getting in shape after a long break. He can't yet intuitively fell what to do in specific situations. If we look at cooller when he decided to start gaming seriously again, it took him several months to get back to top3 level and cooller didn't even had complete break from Quake, he still played Asus'es for example.
czm is only practicing for about a month. If he continues, I'm sure he will be able to do very good @ IEM World.

Edited by p4r4 at 01:56 CDT, 10 October 2010

<< Comment #298 @ 11:57 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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caesar_

wow, tbh i thought czm was going to get owned up

would be sick if he won. :o

<< Comment #299 @ 11:58 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #298

semifinal is good enough for his first tournament since god knows when

<< Comment #307 @ 12:25 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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noctis - Reply to #299

eswc finals 2008

no need to call me god tho

<< Comment #310 @ 12:32 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #307

no reason whatsoever!

<< Comment #311 @ 12:33 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lave - Reply to #307

wont happen
god has long hair

<< Comment #312 @ 12:34 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #311

orly

Edited by Lethe at 12:35 CDT, 9 October 2010

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<< Comment #302 @ 12:03 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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p4r4

Why there are no pro QL casters invited to this event and why no on-site coverage? QL.TV is not really qualified for tourneys of such level.

Edited by p4r4 at 12:03 CDT, 9 October 2010

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<< Comment #304 @ 12:09 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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FishStix - Reply to #302

Slasher tried to cast w/ Joe. I think Carmac would prefer to do it tho :)

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Anonymous (129.59.180.123) - Reply to #302

You are an absolute ignoramus. Don't lie - have you ever heard any "pro" caster say anything, anything at all, that anyone who has played Quake knows, or that someone who has done regular duel casts for the past two years knows?

Most casters just are good at filling silence, they rarely say anything truly insightful. Their very base analysis is something that QLTV can easily make up for.

I can't recall ever hearing Joe, 2GD, Djwheat, slasher, whoever, say anything that I really thought to myself "I DID NOT KNOW THAT!" or something that I would expect greased, jehar, and fish not to know.

<< Comment #363 @ 13:38 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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scowl - Reply to #308

I can't recall ever hearing (...) 2GD (...)say anything that (...) I would expect greased, jehar, and fish not to know.

made my day.

<< Comment #366 @ 13:45 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #308

There's no analyzing. I think what people like about 2good is that he makes good calls on what the players will do or need to do, and that is something that the viewers can either agree with or disagree with based on their experience. These other casters just fucking repeat what everyone can plainly see on their screen (except the blind), so it doesn't get the viewers involved and thinking about the game their watching. Instead they'll watch the game and try their hardest to tune out the annoying casters until they eventually mute them.

Edit: Also 2good can probably beat 90% of the people who watch the games, so just listening to his casts can , in some ways, teach you some things about dueling. And i'm not a 2good fanboy. I'm just someone who prefers hearing casters who are good at the game. Like rapha, or calipt, they are both entertaining casters just because they have good insight.

Edited by judge717 at 13:51 CDT, 9 October 2010

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mental - Reply to #366

Like rapha, or calipt, they are both entertaining casters just because they have good insight.

Would be nice if this caught on enough to where there was a market for casters, so that after rapha is done playing, casting might be something he'd do. The couple times I've heard him casting/commenting about matches have been really nice to listen to. The guy truly understands the game.

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<< Comment #546 @ 08:25 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (88.78.65.10) - Reply to #376

a prime example of this are the starcraft casters. tasteless, day9, artosis etc all were/are active progamers. casting by non-professionals like thegunrun just isn't acceptable given the standard that those pros are setting.

<< Comment #472 @ 18:54 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #366

absolutely 100% THIS...without any modifications or additions.

<< Comment #367 @ 13:46 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #308

At least what I want from casters is not to say absolutely ridiculous things like they said just now that vo0 is a player from who you see massive aggression all day long. How can you say things like that when you saw his first two games?

<< Comment #846 @ 03:22 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #367

Well he tends to want to play aggressive, but this is Quake Live. And he seems to have adopted a "forced move". That is to say he has gotten more and more defensive.

<< Comment #847 @ 03:28 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #846

And your point is?

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #847

I was making an aside to your remark. Not directly confronting your complaints which were vaguely stated.

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p4r4 - Reply to #848

Well, he played aggressive in the past, but to say that we see massive aggression from him all day long after he played 2/3 of his games of the day in totally +back defensive style, is a sign that commentators don't actually think of what they say. As if someone told them in the past that Vo0 is aggressive and they just repeat it like parrots, lacking ability to make their own proper judgement.

<< Comment #375 @ 14:17 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #308

stfu jehar

<< Comment #390 @ 15:06 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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clan519 - Reply to #308

Bullllllshiiiiiiiit.. GS and jehar literally do not know _anything_ about dueling, have never played the maps, don't know what is going on, get all excited at the wrong things and then talk over incredibly important key fights that change the control of the map. It's embarrassing and they need to stop casting.

And for those mentioning 2gd, I think he's only marginally better, since his experience dueling is in Q4 mostly.

Rapha and calipt are the only people I've heard on a shoutcast who actually say relevant things regarding the action and the flow of the map, and who needs to be doing what and when. They also get quiet when important battles come up, but that's because they don't have radio personalities + they are interested to see what happens. You need someone like wheat + rapha.. wheat just giving the play by play and someone like rapha/calipt doing the analysis.

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<< Comment #836 @ 06:35 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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fugie - Reply to #390

watch ANY football match or other sporting match... the anylising happens AFTER the match (or during the replay =P)... not actually when things happen...

I actually like the way they cast, and i know a lot more people do so keep it up guys! =]

Edited by FUGlTlVE at 06:36 CDT, 15 October 2010

<< Comment #305 @ 12:16 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Kerchu

guys cmon QL.TV are not that bad :E

Edited by Kerchu at 12:21 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #306 @ 12:22 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude

dkt sucked at Hektik. chairs ready!

<< Comment #309 @ 12:25 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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boenk

yea, as long as the stream isn't laggy i don't care about casters, sound is muted anyway -> i dislike shoutcasts in quake :>

edit: except slasher of course (no i'm serious, he is funny :> )

Edited by boenk at 12:26 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #313 @ 12:35 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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InDepther

vlc link?

<< Comment #314 @ 12:36 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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obi

Are you really equating 2gd's insight with that of ql.tv?
The ql.tv guys just describe what they see on screen. 2gd at least talks strategy, why the player is in a given situation, how they can get themselves out of it etc.

<< Comment #316 @ 12:44 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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pks - Reply to #314

2gd is the best Quake shoutcaster imo, I doubt even QL-TV would argue that. But he's not casting is he, deal with it.

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<< Comment #633 @ 11:32 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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obi - Reply to #316

'Deal with it' ?? Someone made a comparison between ql.tv and 2gd and I was giving my opinion, ok tough guy?

<< Comment #315 @ 12:38 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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riotty

Joe and carmac on ESL tv gonna cast groupstage too

<< Comment #317 @ 12:50 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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mistermojo

wtf esl.tvs stream is so terrible, even in the tiny window, hope they let ql.tv show semis and final too

<< Comment #320 @ 12:51 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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GreenMeanie

the ESL Free stream looks like everything is 8-bit and at 2x speed.

<< Comment #321 @ 12:52 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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exelf

I beg you a pardon, but why the quality is SO FUCKING SHIT?
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1372/12212112.jpg

<< Comment #334 @ 13:17 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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smari - Reply to #321

It's far better for me.
Are you watching here?
http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_edge_free/

<< Comment #324 @ 13:00 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lethe

thx for turning off a solid stream to watch this crapshit somalian quality

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<< Comment #328 @ 13:08 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #324

aren't Somalians the ones who can't afford premium ;P

<< Comment #332 @ 13:17 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #328

"won't"

<< Comment #341 @ 13:25 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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.syL - Reply to #324

you COULD buy premium?

<< Comment #349 @ 13:28 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #341

you mean just for this event?

<< Comment #352 @ 13:31 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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.syL - Reply to #349

Sure, why not? Even if you buy it only for the event, it's still a lot cheaper than what similar organisations charge on a per-event basis (mlg, gomtv, wcg)

<< Comment #356 @ 13:33 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #352

i agree, but they didn't even stream anything except rapha vs dahang for now. it's just a few bucks, but would make no sense tbh...

in the future, why not...

<< Comment #362 @ 13:37 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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.syL - Reply to #356

Yeah, if you're not into sc2, i guess it doesn't make too much sense except for semi-finals and finals in ql. Still, with a pay-per-view stream you're obviously not paying for the stream itself but for the event as a whole. That's the price you pay for having lan events, and esl's pricing structure is more than reasonable. Plus, they seem to have switched away from octoshape for their main stream, which is definately a plus.

<< Comment #364 @ 13:39 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #362

as i said, i agree, the price is basically nothing, and it's more than worth it for a couple of days of stream.

tried to do it before but somehow they didn't like my AmEx

<< Comment #365 @ 13:41 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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.syL - Reply to #364

yay, an esr discussion that ends with both parties agreeing, will bookmark for future reference :)

Edited by .syL at 13:41 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #325 @ 13:06 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ffx

Demos?? :***********(

Edited by ffx at 13:06 CDT, 9 October 2010

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<< Comment #338 @ 13:21 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #325

;D

<< Comment #326 @ 13:08 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Nukm

nice, esl site is bugged, it gives me "error no premium" while the account page shows that i paid for i until 16.11.10

fu

<< Comment #336 @ 13:19 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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stingerrayer - Reply to #326

http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_stream/stream/55-flv-future

this link works for me, try that

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<< Comment #337 @ 13:20 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #336

thanks, it works

<< Comment #377 @ 14:21 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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chzzen - Reply to #326

ctrl + f5 also helped me

<< Comment #329 @ 13:10 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Wasted

stream isn't working for me either.. premium and free are not working.. great switch from quake-live tv

<< Comment #331 @ 13:13 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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GreenMeanie - Reply to #329

I had to close my Quakelive-TV stream for my ESL stream to work.

<< Comment #330 @ 13:13 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Wasted

omg really.. crap like this makes me think about how it all could have been when some ..... @ id implemented QLTV.. instead of this streaming crapshit that is never working how it should.

<< Comment #339 @ 13:23 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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boenk - Reply to #330

the esl does not allow hltv for streamed games therefore i do not think that even if gtv existed (..) there would be any games on it :(

<< Comment #333 @ 13:17 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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oneroomdisco

http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_edge_free/
http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_edge_free/
http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_edge_free/

ESL TV stream with Carmac and Joe.

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<< Comment #340 @ 13:23 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ffx - Reply to #333

Omfg thx it atually works even with umts :D. Now the only thing is how long can I watch it with one g volume? I have no fucking clue and cold so I'm just to stupid to figure it out right now -.-

<< Comment #335 @ 13:18 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Derb_

FU STARCRAFT

<< Comment #342 @ 13:26 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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xou

Crowd spoke: SC2 > QL !

No czm / Vo0 on stage/ESL TV

<< Comment #348 @ 13:27 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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exelf - Reply to #342

:(

<< Comment #353 @ 13:31 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #348

SC2 is a LOT more popular :]
People from public keep on asking me when sc2 is starting!

<< Comment #358 @ 13:35 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude - Reply to #342

noob crowd

<< Comment #344 @ 13:26 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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evoke

wat.

fuck starcraft

where's the QL stream?

<< Comment #343 @ 13:26 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Jubei

starcraft 2 over quake? lol rediculous.

<< Comment #345 @ 13:27 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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rTx

hair =(

Edited by rTx at 13:27 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #346 @ 13:27 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Kerchu

FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
sc2 everywhere

<< Comment #347 @ 13:27 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Dynamix

Fucking DUMB CROWD NOOBS

<< Comment #350 @ 13:29 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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evoke

Nice the good stream is on again:

http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms2/0/0MediaPlayer+0+/t...v.external

in vlc

Edited by evoke at 13:29 CDT, 9 October 2010

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Dynamix - Reply to #350

Cuts out every 5 seconds for me, so annoying.

<< Comment #385 @ 14:42 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #351

try updating vlc, i used to have teh same issue a month ago when i had an old version

<< Comment #354 @ 13:32 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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p4r4

Actually, crowd was asked only about SC, so you couldn't compare what they wanted better, QL or SC. SC would probably have won anyway, but still it was not really fair.

Edited by p4r4 at 13:33 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #357 @ 13:34 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lethe

czm doesn't have premium lmao

wait, neither do i.

but that is irrelevant.

Edited by Lethe at 13:34 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #361 @ 13:37 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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pks - Reply to #357

he has pro on his main account

<< Comment #359 @ 13:35 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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pks

vo0 vs czm...

OOOOH YEEEEAAAHH

<< Comment #360 @ 13:36 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Lethe

czm: nice forehead
vo0: likewise
czm: nice

<< Comment #439 @ 17:23 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Carsomyr - Reply to #360

What?

<< Comment #714 @ 18:37 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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wch - Reply to #360

HAHA

<< Comment #368 @ 13:48 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Kerchu

damn ,Vo0 on fire

<< Comment #369 @ 13:53 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (88.78.65.10)

the casters are too occupied trying to fill dead air which results in worthless gibberish most of the time. play-by-play commentary should just be relinquished completely, everybody can see what's going on (spoiler: it's a video game). casters should concentrate on laconically analyzing the gameflow and what's going through the players' minds instead of spouting stuff like BAM nice rocket to the FACE

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<< Comment #372 @ 14:02 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #369

STFU YOU FUCKING DICKSUCKER. mute the fucking thing or gtfo faggot bitch

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<< Comment #412 @ 17:04 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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r1ddler - Reply to #372

indeed, streams need an option of muting the casters, or just a separate stream without shoutcasters would be nice

<< Comment #378 @ 14:26 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #369

totally agree.
Why the fuck isn't calipt comentating this game...i mean seriously he is a really good commentator.

<< Comment #382 @ 14:35 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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luanswan2002 - Reply to #369

HATER GHANA HATE!

Edited by luanswan2002 at 14:38 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #370 @ 13:55 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude

czm ragequit soon?

<< Comment #371 @ 13:59 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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FishStix

IEM Finals LIVE from New York City - NOW: EG.CZM vs. coL.Vo0 - NEXT: Rivalries return w/ EG.Chance vs. coL.dkt - Tune in NOW @ http://www.quake-live.tv/live.php

<< Comment #373 @ 14:09 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #371

do you know which semi will be first?

Need the closing time for the fixtures

<< Comment #374 @ 14:17 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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DamianLillard

vo0 playing ql promodestyle = epic win

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atI5SyXD070

<< Comment #379 @ 14:29 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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JayDee_ - Reply to #374

I knew i should have bet more esr $ on that game. dammit :(

<< Comment #381 @ 14:34 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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FishStix

IEM5 Group Stages are COMPLETE! On to the Semi-Finals - Vo0 vs. DaHanG @ 4PM EDT - THEN: Rapha vs. czm @ 5PM EDT - Tune in LIVE @ http://qlive.tv/live.php

Gonna try to get some player interviews to kill the dead time, so say tuned!

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<< Comment #384 @ 14:42 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Hanzo - Reply to #381

FU QL.TV crap stream laggs every 20 sek .... i wanna see semi final on ESL TV great stream !!!!

<< Comment #392 @ 15:25 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Roswell47 - Reply to #384

Please do everyone a favor and shut the fuck up. :)

<< Comment #496 @ 23:01 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #381

start uploading vods if you dont have anything to do.. jeez....

<< Comment #383 @ 14:36 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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xou

I grabbed demos and cfgs from vamp1re, ziel, chance and dkt. Not sure where to upload them yet.
I'll get the rest after the semis.

<< Comment #386 @ 14:43 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #383

why not grab the demos + configs of the good players? fuck

CZM is gonna get raped by rapha :\

Edited by jamalz at 14:44 CDT, 9 October 2010

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pks - Reply to #386

more than likely czm will lose, but afaik he still qualified for the world finals so he's got like 5 months to work on his +forward

<< Comment #388 @ 14:48 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #387

he's aggressive as shit but that's probably because quakelive sound is fucking terrible compared to quake 3 and hes confused as fuck..

<< Comment #389 @ 14:49 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #386

cuz they're playing semi finals soon!

<< Comment #839 @ 17:13 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #386

http://gouzouboudou.free.fr/QuakeLive/IEM5%20AC%20Finals/

<< Comment #516 @ 04:35 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Hanzo - Reply to #383

Dude get lost ! Random nub :)

<< Comment #817 @ 08:21 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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d0ku - Reply to #383

did you get all the configs yet?

<< Comment #825 @ 16:42 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #817

Its all on IEM's website, check the news there

<< Comment #826 @ 18:21 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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d0ku - Reply to #825

pls could you give me the link im new here :(

<< Comment #831 @ 13:07 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #826

http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/newyork/news/137360/

<< Comment #833 @ 17:53 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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horf - Reply to #831

Those aren't configs...

<< Comment #834 @ 18:06 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #833

Then I will upload them when I get a chance

<< Comment #835 @ 22:53 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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horf - Reply to #834

Thank you very much.

<< Comment #840 @ 17:13 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #835

http://gouzouboudou.free.fr/QuakeLive/IEM5%20AC%20Finals/

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<< Comment #842 @ 08:13 CDT, 16 October 2010 >>

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d0ku - Reply to #840

thx alot xou

<< Comment #391 @ 15:20 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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pks

Hmm I don't see where the fascination lies in watching SC2, I mean it doesn't help that one of the casters sounds like a pedophile but it's so dull. i dunno

<< Comment #393 @ 15:25 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Kirua. - Reply to #391

It doesn't help that every fucking match is Ran vs Ran...

<< Comment #394 @ 15:28 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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luanswan2002 - Reply to #391

It's a national sport in Korea.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P39gP4QnXxE

Edited by luanswan2002 at 15:29 CDT, 9 October 2010

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rareh - Reply to #391

I agree, SC2 is a great game to play, but really boring to watch.

<< Comment #396 @ 15:38 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #395

I highly disagree. It's so fun when you have good players + good/informative cast + good quality. I don't watch that much, however I loved GSL, especially Koreans. They are already so crazy in this game pulling some awesome and very creative stuff, making foreign scene look so average.

P.S Jinro, Artosis, HayprO failed to qualify :-C Idra's in once again.

<< Comment #398 @ 15:39 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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boenk - Reply to #396

the foreign scene is average

<< Comment #399 @ 15:48 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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miNd - Reply to #396

It fucking sucks, never seen such a horrible game to spec

<< Comment #409 @ 16:57 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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zar4 - Reply to #399

Becuase you have no idea about it, it's probably the most fun game to spec, i enjoy both it and quake the same.

Wehn you take 5 minuts of your life to learn the game and then go watch some GSL you'll be mindblown, i haven't met anyone who doesn't like it once they know a bit about it

<< Comment #400 @ 15:51 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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tath - Reply to #396

boxer, jaedong, bisu... where are u guys? owning americans lolol

<< Comment #402 @ 16:02 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #400

Actually Boxer will be playing in GSL qualifies in couple of days. He has officially switched to SC2 :]

<< Comment #408 @ 16:44 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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bemyslave - Reply to #395

I think its opposite, I dont play it but I have watched it for 3 years, although I dont watch these mid skilled non Korean games...
I expected foreigners to do better in gsl but the skill gap is only gonna get bigger with time..
I cant wait to see some extremely skilled players to emerge in sc2 like flash, jaedong..

<< Comment #492 @ 22:18 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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erok - Reply to #395

agree, boring as fuck to watch

<< Comment #397 @ 15:38 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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boenk - Reply to #391

no zerg no fun..

<< Comment #717 @ 20:52 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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sqwerty - Reply to #391

I never saw the fascination with watching starcraft / sc2 until I started playing SC2 a lot over the past month. If you play a lot and keep up with the game it's amazing to watch. Problem is it's so much about metagame so it's a bit shit if you don't know the game well.

The games just vary a lot more, different players have different styles, lots of different matchups and maps, limitless amounts of strategies which seem to develop and change constantly (partly because it's a new game I guess), lots of clinch moments and comebacks that swing the games back and forth and imo from playing at a fairly high level in FPS duel and mid-level in sc2, a higher level of skill displayed than in fps duel games (I'm sure a lot of duellers/quakers will argue that, just my opinion though).

Check out some of the fruitdealer games from GSL. You can watch the first map from each match with a free account - http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens1/schedule/

Prefer it a lot to watching quake now. Converted after about a decade... You really have to know the game though IMO, and I guess it's not for everyone.

<< Comment #401 @ 16:01 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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kevz

lemme guess, another hour delay? :>

<< Comment #403 @ 16:08 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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zoN- - Reply to #401

Na just waiting for SC2 to finish, atm is 2-0 in the game and hopefully it will be a 3-0 so quake can start soon :)

<< Comment #404 @ 16:14 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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xou

Looks like they already started the semi finals for QL!

<< Comment #405 @ 16:14 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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boenk

vo0-dahang is live on ql tv

<< Comment #406 @ 16:42 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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riotty

wow at that vo0's rocket at dm13 :O

<< Comment #407 @ 16:43 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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mefajpE^

lol missed first two maps :-c

<< Comment #410 @ 16:57 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun

Nobody is going to beat Vo0 in a RL fight. Vo0 is such a fuckin' a stud.

<< Comment #698 @ 17:16 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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illwill_ - Reply to #410

He's fuckin a stud? Didn't know Vo0 got down like that

<< Comment #718 @ 21:43 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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0x5f3759df - Reply to #698

He lives in Texas now... :|

<< Comment #727 @ 00:33 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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illwill_ - Reply to #718

i guess the steers and queers saying is true after all

<< Comment #411 @ 17:00 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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smari

Dismemberment out of mappool please.

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<< Comment #413 @ 17:07 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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kg

baaaaaaaah breaks every couple of seconds with octoshit :C

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<< Comment #444 @ 17:35 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #413

http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_edge_free/ at least this shit doesnt lag

<< Comment #414 @ 17:08 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun

What a LG whore...

<< Comment #415 @ 17:09 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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oneroomdisco

ITS NOT THE GAME VO0

<< Comment #416 @ 17:09 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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oneroomdisco

ITS NOT THE GAME

<< Comment #417 @ 17:09 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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miNd

THIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS

<< Comment #419 @ 17:10 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Inane - Reply to #417

THIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS

<< Comment #421 @ 17:10 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Kirua. - Reply to #419

THIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS

<< Comment #423 @ 17:11 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #419

He's right!!!

<< Comment #424 @ 17:11 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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boenk - Reply to #419

THIS GAME FUCKING SUCKS

edit: meh, too late, octoshit slowing everything fffffffffffffs

Edited by boenk at 17:12 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #427 @ 17:13 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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koekie - Reply to #417

"he forgot to /ragequit"

<< Comment #428 @ 17:13 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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vamp1re - Reply to #417

That was his gf who wrote that.

<< Comment #429 @ 17:15 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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.syL - Reply to #428

Having his woman fighting his battles, ay?

<< Comment #440 @ 17:23 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Bob - Reply to #428

.

Edited by Bob at 14:50 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #498 @ 23:59 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #428

Seriously?

<< Comment #418 @ 17:09 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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yarrr

Aahhh, fuck this.

VoO missed timings on ~9:30 :/

<< Comment #420 @ 17:10 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Veritas_

:))

<< Comment #422 @ 17:11 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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RMS

whiners lose

<< Comment #434 @ 17:18 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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parrradize

Damn cpm has to become popular so vo0 can kick everyone's asses!

<< Comment #425 @ 17:11 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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rareh

dahang rapha final.
Dejavu ?

<< Comment #426 @ 17:12 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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yikes

It's ok Vo0, we still love you. :D

<< Comment #430 @ 17:15 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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duumed

Vo0

;__;

<< Comment #431 @ 17:16 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Vo0

That was me, who typed that this game fucking sucks. Pro gamer vo0 went missing after the game :(

<< Comment #452 @ 17:53 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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boenk - Reply to #431

funny thing, even vo0's girl knows ql sucks the way it is now :>

<< Comment #458 @ 18:02 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Mellow - Reply to #431

Yes, QL does suck. That's why you should join the MIA CPM and VQ3 tournaments we constantly host. :)

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1969719
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1969045

<< Comment #495 @ 22:58 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #431

they have kitchens at lans now?????

<< Comment #432 @ 17:16 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Vo0

I mean that was me his girlfriend who typed it.

<< Comment #830 @ 06:07 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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Carmac - Reply to #432

Aren't you supposed to be his fiance?

<< Comment #433 @ 17:17 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN

Vo0's GIRLFRIEND JUST THREW A CHAIR

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<< Comment #436 @ 17:20 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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kapa - Reply to #433

at dkt

<< Comment #435 @ 17:19 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Vo0

I guess I shouldn't have played the qualifier for him :(

<< Comment #442 @ 17:24 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Bob - Reply to #435

.

Edited by Bob at 14:50 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #462 @ 18:06 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #435

http://www.esreality.com/files/misc/2010/78799-Jamerio-vo0.swf

<< Comment #514 @ 04:29 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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frame - Reply to #462

How do I get more fps?

<< Comment #518 @ 04:46 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #514

the green number is your win percentage

<< Comment #534 @ 06:33 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Jamerio ' - Reply to #518

You're down 2-0 in world wars. teee heee heee.

<< Comment #538 @ 06:58 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #534

you DO know that England and Germany are now side-on-side in the EU?
and the nazi thing is the only insult you can deliver vs. becks?

<< Comment #437 @ 17:20 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ffx

GET ME SOME DEMOS FFS

Or at least have the decency and show rapha vs czm on the esl stream :(

<< Comment #438 @ 17:21 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Sub_

Who cares about placings really, couldn't have turned out better iuam. Looking forward to see both czm and Vo0 in Hannover next year.

<< Comment #441 @ 17:24 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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duumed - Reply to #438

yeah hopefully both of them manage to get there

<< Comment #443 @ 17:24 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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nude-fox

if czm loses no need to watch finals =(

<< Comment #445 @ 17:42 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ffx

Czm will be canon fodder for k1llsen, cypher and stermy if he keeps aiming like this :P

Edited by ffx at 17:42 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #473 @ 19:03 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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OSEF - Reply to #445

he is using a kinzu ...

:-(

nobody can be accurate with that

<< Comment #500 @ 00:26 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #473

How about strenx?

<< Comment #504 @ 02:15 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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OSEF - Reply to #500

his accuracy went from 45 % to 36 % since he switched from mx518 to kinzu.

<< Comment #667 @ 13:11 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Heartlesss - Reply to #504

rofl ?

if you're talking about strenx then did you hear of the new hitboxes ? :)

people like stermy used to have like 42%+ before the new hitboxes but now they "only" get like 35%+.

<< Comment #686 @ 15:04 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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OSEF - Reply to #667

no no no ... hitbox is something else ... a long time ago.

<< Comment #505 @ 02:15 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #500

yeah, but nonetheless, steelseries needs a small mouse with a great sensor in it's lineup for all the sponsored players who have to cope with kinzu

razer has abyssus/lachesis
logitech has g9x
SS: ???

<< Comment #666 @ 13:09 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Heartlesss - Reply to #505

you mean abyssus/salmosa for razer :D

<< Comment #446 @ 17:42 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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pks

czm getting worked, good lord

<< Comment #447 @ 17:43 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Jubei

Was really looking forward to this event for days n its been pretty disappointing. Turned off already, rapha has no competition there.

<< Comment #448 @ 17:44 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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JayDee_

rapha's lg is friggin beast this tourney

<< Comment #450 @ 17:50 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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pks - Reply to #448

this

rapha playing more aggressively and his aim has never looked better

<< Comment #449 @ 17:47 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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langley

uuuh, too bad we didn't get to see aero... guess hektik will do!

hero getting destroyed!

Edited by langley at 17:55 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #451 @ 17:51 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN

For the US scene, Rapha is just in a tier of his own. Would be nice to see someone challenge him :[

<< Comment #453 @ 17:55 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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duumed - Reply to #451

I could see Vo0 challenging rapha if he keeps playing

<< Comment #456 @ 17:59 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #453

Vo0's not technically American though :D
Although I guess if anyone could then yeah it'd be Vo0

CZM's aim is completely off. ZeRo4 doesn't tend to beat Rapha in most matches. DaHang is a bit on/off. Of all oldschool players it'd be cool to see Socrates and Fatal1ty although I doubt they'd challenge either. It'd be nice to see some newschool talent coming through, but honestly: who is there?

<< Comment #467 @ 18:10 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ffx - Reply to #456

Dahang is the only one who can challenge rapha and already did successfully. But in his current shape I doubt this is gonna happen soon. I'm not sure why Dahang isn't that strong anymore,

<< Comment #464 @ 18:06 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (88.179.72.116) - Reply to #451

True , only Dahang and an in-shape zero4 can hope to win against him

<< Comment #491 @ 21:25 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.182.14) - Reply to #464

No. Zero4 never hung with rapha, only in 2008 when rapha was bad.

The way the American scene is now, rapha is on a league of his own.

Dahang has never been the same for months, and he isn't improving like other players are. I remember when t7 was dahang's map and no one could beat him on it, now dahang can never beat rapha on that map and he has been beaten by some average players on the map too. Rapha has his number too, I don't think he can ever manage more than a map in any game vs rapha. Something needs to change for him to crack the top tier.

CZM needs to learn the maps and the tricks of quake live. Even though his aim was pretty poor, he was being outsmarted by rapha many times, and rapha managed to bait him so much. Needs more experience before he can even try to challenge the top level.

vo0, however, is the most promising player. Excellent aim (could work on LG though) and probably the best rockets of any player in this tournament. I think he needs to keep at it (and tone his aggression down just a bit) and he may be able to challenge rapha sooner or later.

Besides these players, the one player that I have my eye on is jovire. His rocket aim wasn't that great, but his LG and rail were strong, and he has good map knowledge and movement. He's fairly new so he has plenty of time to get better.

<< Comment #501 @ 01:41 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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f0cus - Reply to #491

you should make an account, jovire

<< Comment #719 @ 21:53 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Ziel - Reply to #501

I just got home..I swear I did not post that haha.

<< Comment #454 @ 17:57 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Nukm

rapha plays so flawless, impressive display of quake skill

<< Comment #457 @ 18:00 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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daka - Reply to #454

no real competition for him there

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bob_faurisson - Reply to #454

He's the only one in USA who can reasonably pretend to compete against mad pro europeans like killsen/cypher right now.

I mean, today, seeing those USA matches at the same time as, lets say, Cypher-Zsx, it seems there is just such a huge gap between them. A gap of like 40% acc. And Cypher had 90ms while americans where on LAN...

Indeed, it makes rapha's performance even nicer cause there isnt anybody of his skill in USA whom he could train with

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EddieF4 - Reply to #463

Hmmm I'm pretty sure it was cypher who rapha handily beat at the dubai challenge last year and made a comeback against him at the IEM world championships semis after going down 2-0.
Of course, Rapha is only pretending to compete. All his titles he won beating those same europeans are just errors.

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Anonymous (129.59.182.14) - Reply to #481

I think you misunderstood. He is saying that there is no one on the top level of rapha-cypher-cooller-k1llsen-av3k (arguably some others but these are the only players that have won championships). I want to add, I think the biggest thing holding players back is aim. American players have such poor aim, even on LAN.

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beefheart - Reply to #490

Americans are just lying dormant until a game that isn't so hitscan-heavy comes out. That's what I like to tell myself, anyway. Pro-level Quake has never been more boring than in Quake Live.

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Heartlesss - Reply to #506

lolololol

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zealot - Reply to #506

what. remember vq3? remember rapha winning everything for quite a while?

Edited by zealot at 09:20 CDT, 11 October 2010

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Heartlesss - Reply to #490

American players have such poor aim, even on LAN

I don't agree.

Only cypher & k1llsen (along with strenx?) get super strong aim. It's like 2 (3?) people out of "many".
I'm not talking about stermy cuz i don't think that his aim is better or even as good as strenx :). Z4muZ can be considered as a strong aimer aswell but he's a bit slow (even tho his movements are smooth as hell) and overall his aim is very "situation-dependent". Spart1e ? well, it's really hard to judge this guy cuz he's quite inconsistent these day. Noctis ? even worst than spartie :P. Fox ? retired + balanced, smart & calm player.

so you see... not THAT much very strong aimers compared to america. Also, don't underestimate DaHanG, chance or even Vo0's aim (not even talking about some people like carnage who ae very good aimers but still lack the experience and the "mentality" to succeed at duel).

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Anonymous (129.59.181.3) - Reply to #671

Stermy has strong rail aim. cooller has strong overall aim (probably better than rapha's). cooller's aim is so underrated, he pulls some insane stuff like hitting 5 consecutive rails in 15 seconds on t7 against rapha. Av3k has really good aim and is known for having amazing plasma. Strenx has amazing LG but can aim other weapons pretty well too. ZSX out-aimed cypher just a few days ago, the guy has really strong aim. Then you have people like cypher and k1llsen who pretty much have perfect aim on every weapon.

Besides vo0 and rapha I don't think there is a single top tier American player who has good aim at any weapon, let alone them all like k1llsen and cypher do. Half the players missed tons of rockets, shot 20% LG, and 30% rail. Aiming like this won't cut it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCj8d6bvzYg

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Heartlesss - Reply to #713

Stermy has strong rail aim. cooller has strong overall aim (probably better than rapha's). cooller's aim is so underrated, he pulls some insane stuff like hitting 5 consecutive rails in 15 seconds on t7 against rapha. Av3k has really good aim and is known for having amazing plasma. Strenx has amazing LG but can aim other weapons pretty well too. ZSX out-aimed cypher just a few days ago, the guy has really strong aim. Then you have people like cypher and k1llsen who pretty much have perfect aim on every weapon.

About stermy, yep. But his rail can't be better than strenx rail. As good as strenx rail, at best.

about cooller, yep, cooller's aim is better than rapha's. but cypher and k1llsen (strenx, z4muz, probably even stermy/spartie) still got better aim than him. but by better aim, i don't mean that they outaim him constantly, far from that, but at such a lvl, even the extra +3% lg can make the difference, same for the rail misses (and cooller tends to miss his rails more often than a player like stermy etc, i mean, his rail can be deadly ofc, but is still too unconsistent compared to his others weapons or his map control). btw, if you refer only to 1 game, then your judgement of cooller's aim won't be 100% accurate.

about av3k, i would say that he's a balanced player, with no real weakness, and ofc he has one of the best plasma, if not the best, ever. but you can't win with plasma only you know :). and like i said, he's a balanced player, he can play agressive/defensive, with good mapcontrol, smart play etc etc, but still, his lg or rail isn't as good as k1llsen or cypher in top shape. ofc sometimes they are fucking close, but it's basically the same for all the top8-5 players you know... and not only in EU.

about zsx, well, keep in mind that cypher was playing with 90ms, and zsx had low/lowish ping. ofc zsx is still an aim whore overall, but still don't overrate him :)

Besides vo0 and rapha I don't think there is a single top tier American player who has good aim at any weapon, let alone them all like k1llsen and cypher do. Half the players missed tons of rockets, shot 20% LG, and 30% rail. Aiming like this won't cut it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCj8d6bvzYg

DaHanG, chance, carnage are all solid aimers, it's just that the american pro duel scene is smaller overall than the eu pro duel scene.
btw, if you think that 20% LG, 30% rail mean anything, then you don't know what you're talking about. this game is far from being only about "raw aim", it's also A LOT about positions/dodges/when to attack/when to +back/how to get the right angle/prediction/playstyles/weapon usage/etc etc.
for example a player like cooller can win a lot of fair 1on1 lg fights vs some well known strong aimers (like stermy, zsx, spartie etc) even with only 28-31% lg accuracy. sometimes movements and reaction time are better than "robotic prediction locking aim"...

about the youtube video, well, that's just 1 situation out of many. And dkt failed only a red armor, other than that his rl spam was actually quite decent cuz he managed to hit like 1.5/1.8 full face rocket(s). apparently he tried to confuse chance with the spam and also control chance's position so that he couldn't get the right angle to pixel rail.

Edited by He4rTL3sS at 22:34 CDT, 10 October 2010

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Anonymous (129.59.181.162) - Reply to #724

DaHang hasn't been the same for like a year, if he ever plays like he used to, including aim, then he might get somewhere. Chance is a hot/cold player and too inconsistent to win a tournament. I know for a fact that carnage does not really care about quake at all, he probably spends more time on TF2 than Quake. But there are so many mid+ level Euro players who could easily, at least in terms of AIM, compare to these players. Guard, garpy, cny, agent, reload, bodzo, draven, calipt, scoot, and about 20 other players.

Does aim mean everything, no, but you simply cannot win Quake Live like you might have been able to in Q3 on the basis of strategy alone. You have to shoot a certain standard level of accuracy (35% LG, 50% rail). Rapha isn't much of an aimer, there are more than a few situations in which he is outaimed, but in America his aim is twice as good as the other players. Cause the truth is, Quake Live has increased the importance of aim, with rockets at 1000 ups, LG 7-7-7, and players hitting 60% rail - if you can't hit close to what you need to it, it really doesn't matter how smart you are, you will lose.

That youtube was just a hillarious example. But I am just dumbfounded as to how k1llsen can have the most absolutely ridiculous aim in the Zotac cups, and then half of the american players can't track LG or shoot their rail with any semblance of accuracy. How are they supposed to survive an international competition when they have trouble hitting 20% LG?

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Heartlesss - Reply to #733

DaHang hasn't been the same for like a year, if he ever plays like he used to, including aim, then he might get somewhere.

more like everyone has improved since then and the mappool isn't the same.
he's still 2nd right behind rapha, don't forget that. and besides the fact that he didn't place top3 at the last major events, he's still dahang, i mean he can still give very close games and some very hard time to the best of the best duel players (talking about quakecon/gamescom etc etc). in fact it's more complicated than "omg omg he's only top5-8, omg omg, he sux now !", there are so many different factors that you have to take into consideration. you just can't go like "omg he's 5th, where are his 50% LG 80% rail accuracies ?, this is not dahang anymore". ofc he can have his bad days etc, but still...

Chance is a hot/cold player and too inconsistent to win a tournament.

chance always manage to place at least top5-8, which is consistent for a player like him. like i said, i don't think that he lacks the aim, for him it's something else, really.

But there are so many mid+ level Euro players who could easily, at least in terms of AIM, compare to these players. Guard, garpy, cny, agent, reload, bodzo, draven, calipt, scoot, and about 20 other players.

rapha, dahang and even chance are still above these players. i'm not talking about practice games at home, i'm talking about big lan events.
btw, all these players are at least "high lvl" players, not only "mid+". players like rapha, dahang chance etc are top players, just like k1llsen, cypher etc...
guard will never be as good as dahang, or at least as consistent, don't get me wrong, he's still a very good player, but i just can't see him beat dahang one day, or even chance.
garpy is one of my fav players ever, but still, atm he can't be considered at the same lvl as the top pro players.
cny, online hero ? another russian wannabe ?
reload, pretty 'young' player, with LOT of potential, probably the next k1llsen, but with different style of play :>. still, atm i just can't see him beat players of rapha/dahang/chance's caliber.
bodzo, gonna steal your shoes and cell phones, take care ! well, will never be as good as av3k, that's for sure. still a very solid player, but to me it seems that he already reached his full potential.
draven, "oldschool" ctf/tdm/duel player, i just can't see him beat cypher or k1llsen one day. never say never, but still... he can be one of the best ctf/tdm player that's for sure, but here again, you probably won't see him beat people like dahang/rapha/chance etc...
calipt, the next german version of 2GD ? :>
scoot, i think that i like this player, but you probably overrate him a bit, sure he's at least a "high skill" player, but still way behind players like z4muz, stermy, even noctis etc, in duel (keep in mind that i'm talking about duel here, not tdm/ctf etc).
and the list goes on....

btw, all these players are not really known for their "omfg super strong aim carnage rampage mode", they are obviously good/very good/excellent aim players (when you play at this lvl, it's pretty "normal" i would say), but that's all.

Does aim mean everything, no, but you simply cannot win Quake Live like you might have been able to in Q3 on the basis of strategy alone. You have to shoot a certain standard level of accuracy (35% LG, 50% rail).

well, wrong comparison imo :). at the end of vq3 era, some people were already such aim whores. ofc in 2010 the overall "aim lvl" is a bit higher, but still... btw, only k1llsen and few others can hit 35%LG 50%RG vs the very best players... cuz when you get better, not only your aim is improving, but also your movements/dodges.

Rapha isn't much of an aimer, there are more than a few situations in which he is outaimed, but in America his aim is twice as good as the other players.

more like he manages to always put himself in "dominant" situations so that aiming and all these stuff become a bit easier for him and a bit harder for his opponents. "twice as good" ? not really :). like i said, duel is far from being only about "raw aim"...

Cause the truth is, Quake Live has increased the importance of aim, with rockets at 1000 ups, LG 7-7-7, and players hitting 60% rail - if you can't hit close to what you need to it, it really doesn't matter how smart you are, you will lose.

even if it was osp/cpma vq3, keep in mind that we are in 2010 now, so, ofc you can't win anymore onlywith "omfg imba smart clever einstein strat/tactics" anymore. ofc nowadays you have to be AT LEAST a very good aimer to compete with the best. seems pretty normal to me, it's QUAKE after all, it's an fps, you need skill to win.
btw all the weapons changes as well as the hitboxes/player accel/gravity changes are VERY good changes. just make the game more enjoyable/balanced than the old and boring vq3.
And no, i don't agree with you, in duel, a smart player will always have some advantage over a dumb aimwhore. keep in mind that k1llsen isn't only a rail, this guy is also very clever, you have to play him to understand :).

That youtube was just a hillarious example. But I am just dumbfounded as to how k1llsen can have the most absolutely ridiculous aim in the Zotac cups, and then half of the american players can't track LG or shoot their rail with any semblance of accuracy. How are they supposed to survive an international competition when they have trouble hitting 20% LG?

reread my previous replies :).

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Anonymous (129.59.183.23) - Reply to #784

"more like everyone has improved since then and the mappool isn't the same."
No matter how you put it, how come he hasn't improved? He's been playing just as much. Everyone has had the same time with battleforged, aero is the only excuse he has. T7 he used to be dominant, not anymore. No matter how you put it, he's gotten worse relative to everyone else.

he's still 2nd right behind rapha, don't forget that.
2nd in America, where there is literally no competition. America really doesn't mean anything, and I say that as an American. If he is really top tier, get a top 5 placing at an international competition.

he's still dahang, i mean he can still give very close games and some very hard time to the best of the best duel players (talking about quakecon/gamescom etc etc).
The point of this debate is whether he is top tier. Not anymore, there are many players that can give close games to the top tier. Heck, even someone like draven can beat cooller online. But he needs to actually beat some of these top players at LAN if we are to call him "top tier".

there are so many different factors that you have to take into consideration. you just can't go like "omg he's 5th, where are his 50% LG 80% rail accuracies ?
I never demanded 50% LG and 80% RAIL, but at times some euro players do hit that higher. Remember cypher's 100% rail on aerowalk at qcon? His aim looks markedly worse than what it used to be.

chance always manage to place at least top5-8, which is consistent for a player like him.
Chance gets that placing at an American competition. On the international level I would be surprised if he could break top 15. And when I say he is hot/cold I say that primarily about the aim, sometimes its' really good, other times its terrible.

rapha, dahang and even chance are still above these players. i'm not talking about practice games at home, i'm talking about big lan events.
I repeat, about aim. And honestly, guard and garpy and a few other players have improved drastically and I think that one of those two will turn some heads in a future LAN. But Besides rapha and Dahang the American mid tier cant compare to the Euro mid tier. Their mid tier players are just well above the level that America's mid tier is at.

btw, all these players are at least "high lvl" players, not only "mid+". players like rapha, dahang chance etc are top players, just like k1llsen, cypher etc...
I never said they werent. But chance? What has chance ever done? International level is the only level that counts. And Chance hasn't ever done anything on the international level. If garpy, guard, calipt, zsx were to duel chance today I'd put my money on the euro player.

"guard will never be as good as dahang, or at least as consistent, don't get me wrong, he's still a very good player, but i just can't see him beat dahang one day, or even chance.
garpy is one of my fav players ever, but still, atm he can't be considered at the same lvl as the top pro players."
Honestly I think both of those players could take a map from Dahang. They get shut down by k1llsen's raw aim in the zotacs, but once they have some breathing room, which they will against dahang, they can shine.

Stop comparing them to rapha/dahang. I'm talking about euro mid-level vs the american. Of the americans, only rapha and dahang have cracked the top tier (and dahang not so much lately). I'm comparing the euro non top tier to everyone else besides rapha and dahang. And fact of the matter is that euros just blow away Americans in this category. every single player I mention you go "Oh they cant beat rapha and dahang" - well no duh! thats not my point. my point is that the overall level of talent is just

btw, all these players are not really known for their "omfg super strong aim carnage rampage mode", they are obviously good/very good/excellent aim players (when you play at this lvl, it's pretty "normal" i would say), but that's all.

my original point is that americans' aim is so bad compared to these players.

btw, only k1llsen and few others can hit 35%LG 50%RG vs the very best players... cuz when you get better, not only your aim is improving, but also your movements/dodges.
Cypher has shot that kind of accuracy, rapha has, cooller has, av3k has, stermy has (rail), strenx has. They all have their hot moments and usually shoot a pretty damn good level of accuracy.

more like he manages to always put himself in "dominant" situations so that aiming and all these stuff become a bit easier for him and a bit harder for his opponents. "twice as good" ? not really :). like i said, duel is far from being only about "raw aim"

what you said is true but its not what I meant. I meant exactly what I said. Rapha's raw aim is still levels above all the other Americans. No one in America has comparable LG, rail, rocket (vo0 for rocket, maybe). And in euro his aim isnt even anything special. That's reallly saying something, when someone with rapha's aim is the best America has to offer.

I'll repeat what I said before again, QL is far more aim based than Q3 was. So things like LG% and rail%, they actually do matter, especially when you cannot hit the acceptable level of 30% LG and 50% rail like half the American players cant.

Obviously k1llsen is more than aim. But I think you are totally missing my point. My point is that American players (besides rapha and dahang FFS) have such crappy aim that they would just be blown away by the raw aim of any top tier Euro player and some of the lower players as well.

I'm watching them use their LG and I'm thinking to myself how are they ever going to win a shaft fight against a euro player. They aren't.

<< Comment #715 @ 19:15 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #671

to be honest, avek has one of the sickest aim in the world when in shape... Ask rapha about that or any top player who's had to play avek in shape...

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Heartlesss - Reply to #715

rapha isn't known for is insane aim. Rapha is known for his positioning and dodging and ofc smart play.

so if rapha says that av3k has strong aim, ofc he's right but it's not like if cypher said it, if you see what i mean... and even if cypher says that, then ask him if av3k is a better aimer than him :)

btw who are the others top players you are talking about ?

Edited by He4rTL3sS at 21:58 CDT, 10 October 2010

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dem0n - Reply to #720

ZZZZ.

<< Comment #730 @ 02:42 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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Twisp. - Reply to #490

cooller has not won anything in quakelive

<< Comment #482 @ 20:33 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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RMS - Reply to #481

that time cypher wasnt as good as he is nowadays

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Anonymous (24.132.198.184) - Reply to #482

bitch, please

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jamalz - Reply to #488

start practicing more strenx

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Naghokez - Reply to #510

wrong flag :)

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tourist - Reply to #535

Edited by tourist at 17:35 CDT, 10 October 2010

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nude-fox - Reply to #481

that was before beastmode cypher

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clan519 - Reply to #483

It certainly wasn't before excusemode Europe.

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rareh - Reply to #481

That was SOOOOOO long ago.
He lost 3 international lan tournaments in a row now.
Quakecon 7th?
Gamescom 2nd place
ASUS cup 3rd place

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Lethe - Reply to #507

rapha is the best quakelive player and he has proven it a million times.

he played fucking ctf @ quakecon and k1llsen hit a million rails on gamescom. happens.

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rareh - Reply to #553

rofl cypher ,cooller and stermy played ctf
they all placed top 3
While rapha placed really low.
Euros learned every trick rapha has.
Its 3 international lan tournaments in a row that he doesn't win.
If anything cypher is the best player at the moment quakecon, ASUS cup, all recent tournaments,ESWC and others were so long ago and much changes in 3 months or so in quake.
Rapha was the best in the past until ESWC after that every top euro player got better and rapha couldn't keep up.

Edited by rareh at 11:44 CDT, 10 October 2010

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Lethe - Reply to #641

didn't rapha beat cooller 3:0 in gamescom semifinal? that was kinda after quakecon.

asus is a joke tournament btw, noone takes that seriously.

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rareh - Reply to #650

cooller beat rapha twice in ASUS cup, winners bracket and loser bracket. Rapha didn't even win a single map on both games.
If rapha didn't want to take ASUS cup seriously he simply wouldn't have gone there, so he toke it seriously, after all he only lost to cooller.
Oh and cooller was the only guy that beat k1llsen on gamescom without losing a single map, something that rapha failed to do.

Edited by rareh at 12:58 CDT, 10 October 2010

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clan519 - Reply to #660

Your life must be sad.

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Lethe - Reply to #660

fuck you and fuck your has-been.

maybe he manages to win a tournament after 12 fails in a row, the guy doesn't even deserve to be put in the same sentence as rapha.

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rareh - Reply to #735

I consider.
Cypher
Av3k
Cooller
Rapha
k1llsen
stermy(if he actually practices)
in a league of their own.

All of them can beat each other in my opinion.

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Anonymous (129.59.181.162) - Reply to #553

This is my opinion of course, but I still have yet to see anyone do the things that rapha does. In any situation rapha always manages to find away to escape taking the least amount of damage and dishing out the maximum amount of damage. No other player compares to rapha's trickery, and the kind of absolutely ridiculous things he pulls. He's always positioned in the right place, with the right weapon, and knows when to leave and how to avoid dying. Even cooller can appreciate the absurdity of what rapha does.

Of course there is not much he can do when someone can shoot a rail gun like k1llsen can, but I think its only a bad string of luck, he'll be back.

<< Comment #455 @ 17:58 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude

okay, rapha dahang in the final
deja vu

<< Comment #459 @ 18:02 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Memento_Mori

Very nice performance from rapha. czm had his chances here and there, but overall the result is a fair indicator of the gap between the two today.

<< Comment #460 @ 18:02 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN

CZM just gotta go back to his Q3 settings. He said he's using a different sens, different mouse. He even mentioned it was using truelighting 0 (lol'd). Fuck that shit. Get out the MX300, set it up old school and it'll be like riding a bike. His aim now is a bit lol and his rockets are as good as mine (and mine are totally shite)

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noctis - Reply to #460

they are forced to use SS mice due to being in EG

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ZeritoN - Reply to #475

Yeah but a Kinzu :|

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #475

I know somebody uses the sticker trick!

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noctis - Reply to #509

i guess that other team aint that strict about it since he won about every tournament :P

Edited by noctis at 18:15 CDT, 10 October 2010

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ZeritoN - Reply to #526

S'pose he could just frankenmouse it up by ripping it innards out and putting a decent sensor from an old MX300 mouse in.

I mean the guy built a fucking railgun. A mouse can't be that hard

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oneroomdisco

Who let a girl on a computer

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kg - Reply to #461

What surprises me more was why were they playing in a kitchen.

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faerie_ - Reply to #461

You sure have a strange relationship with your hubby if he posts/read aloud for you.

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stripy '

imo most interesting american competition in quite some time.
not coz of the outcomes, but because of the high lvl competition

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langley

demos? vods?

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kg - Reply to #469

haha n1

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fADEn - Reply to #469

let's hope rapha will upload his POVs :x

<< Comment #470 @ 18:31 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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b1s

ZeRo4 would have made this tournament so much more interesting. Without him top 4 are basically a lock.

Rapha seems to be in top form. DaHanG will take 1 map from him at most in the final imo.

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<< Comment #479 @ 19:24 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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weeja

GO RAPHA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #480 @ 19:26 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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evilbollweevil

Now that dandachance has sent the dkt spud back to Idaho...what's the official retirement procedure? Turn in mouse&kb? Please no guestcasting either.

Edited by evilbollweevil at 21:00 CDT, 9 October 2010

<< Comment #484 @ 20:35 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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RMS

where is that "tehnewbz" guy?

<< Comment #494 @ 22:52 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #484

yeah, he showed potential

<< Comment #485 @ 20:38 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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wingz

rapha was ace

<< Comment #486 @ 20:43 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Cwiru

DaHanG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

<< Comment #487 @ 21:19 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #486

http://www.youtube.com/v/UlXzgeuQ1GI&rel=...on=3"
Playing pretty calm here...just not sure if he can solve the rapha riddle in a BO5.

<< Comment #489 @ 21:24 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (129.59.182.14)

IMO vo0 was right in saying that hektik should replace aerowalk.

New maps! hektik, t7, t9, battleforged, _______

<< Comment #493 @ 22:27 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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erok - Reply to #489

i'd like to see hektik and aerowalk in the map pool

<< Comment #497 @ 23:45 CDT, 9 October 2010 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #493

hektik is making a serious splash with some key matches...look DaHanG's final BO5 match with vo0, tied 2-2 matches, wins 9-8! Looking for THAT vod!

<< Comment #508 @ 03:01 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Bob - Reply to #497

.

Edited by Bob at 14:50 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #512 @ 04:00 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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exelf - Reply to #497

they still havent uploaded quakecon vods, youll be looking for a while

<< Comment #544 @ 07:44 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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rareh - Reply to #497

they still havent uploaded quakecon vods, youll be looking for a while

<< Comment #499 @ 00:21 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun

All Sander has to do is show up, and the tournament gets 10x better :):):).

Vo0 for president!!!

<< Comment #511 @ 03:46 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ffx

Why aren't there any demos? I guess sput isn't there and american admins are fucking up again -______________-

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<< Comment #513 @ 04:06 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #511

^^

<< Comment #517 @ 04:46 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Bob - Reply to #511

.

Edited by Bob at 14:50 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #520 @ 04:55 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ffx - Reply to #517

I'm sick that should count as an excuse :D

<< Comment #515 @ 04:31 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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kK_Storm

Betting fixtures for 3rd place match and final plz.

<< Comment #519 @ 04:52 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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skint

PLAY MOAR PROMODE.... RAPE VQ3 VETS

<< Comment #523 @ 05:18 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Bob - Reply to #519

.

Edited by Bob at 14:50 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #521 @ 05:06 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Nukm

needs moar drama

Vo0 breaks unwritten rule via gameache.com

It’s ten minutes into the first match of the Intel Extreme Masters American Championships and there’s already been some controversy among the players. Right now, Chance “chance” Lacina is taking on Sander “Vo0” Kaasjager. The players watching the match noticed that Vo0 had on a command added just last year that, when an item is picked up, will display the time that item was picked up on the bottom of the screen for four seconds.

For example, if you were to pick up the Mega Health at 2:34, then 2:34 would appear on the bottom of your screen for a few seconds. Since the consensus among the players was that the command shouldn’t be used, it was never used in matches. However, because this was just common knowledge it was never really a written rule… until now.

Since this wasn’t in the rules, the ESL admins gave the players the option of voting on whether they wanted the command allowed in the tournament or not. The players voted and they decided that it shouldn’t be. With that, Vo0 removed the command and will not be getting a penalty. Apparently, in Vo0′s defense, he didn’t even notice it was on in the first place.

<< Comment #522 @ 05:15 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #521

The fuck? I use that command (can't remember what it's called. Drawitemrewards or something?) Didn't know that was a nono

<< Comment #524 @ 05:22 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #522

tbh i dont think most people consider it a big deal

<< Comment #525 @ 05:37 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #524

The thing is, with Stermy's HUD, he has the main clock top mid screen, but a miniature clock down the bottom left where those times show up when you pick up an item, so evidently he plays with it

<< Comment #527 @ 06:10 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #525

yeah, and i suggest to just use "quakelive" rules

so no "using unfair advantages" can be complained about

iirc last years qcon didn't allow custom huds
this year, no such rule was included

<< Comment #536 @ 06:40 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #522

zeriton you fucking cheater, that does it.

<< Comment #528 @ 06:12 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Sub_ - Reply to #521

I don't use it just because I don't like the concept of it, eventhough it's a slight disadvantage of course ;)

<< Comment #529 @ 06:15 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Nzr0 ' - Reply to #521

fucking pathetic

<< Comment #541 @ 07:27 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #521

chance should be banned for this

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<< Comment #642 @ 11:42 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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tourist - Reply to #521

he knew from one item.

<< Comment #530 @ 06:16 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E

also: BETTING FIXTURES ASAP! nukm! becks!

vo0 66,6% : 33,4% czm
dahang 15% : 85% rapha

<< Comment #537 @ 06:58 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #530

Posted by becks @ 11:45 CEST, 10 October 2010 - iMsg, Del, Edit, History, Mark

how about you check for fixtures before you start shouting?

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<< Comment #539 @ 07:00 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #537

THATS NOT SHOUTING THATS CAPS LOCK
also: [+]'d

<< Comment #540 @ 07:04 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #539

yey, this must be pretty much the first plus I ever got for making fixtures :P

<< Comment #548 @ 08:47 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #540

I lost all my money on your fucking fixtures! Plus, my ass!

<< Comment #549 @ 08:52 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #548

howw about I pay you back.

Lets say 100 per day, until you have 500 again?

<< Comment #554 @ 09:09 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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p4r4 - Reply to #549

hmm... I smell some trickery here

Edited by p4r4 at 09:09 CDT, 10 October 2010

<< Comment #531 @ 06:17 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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therm

Edited by 7herm at 06:18 CDT, 10 October 2010

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<< Comment #532 @ 06:19 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #531

7therm +++
[img1]
- Attached Place Img: Awaiting Approval

yeah...lol

<< Comment #533 @ 06:25 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #532

sup yo :3

<< Comment #542 @ 07:39 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Magician - Reply to #531

how much time do you spend masturbating to that picture everyday?

<< Comment #545 @ 07:59 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #542

loads

<< Comment #543 @ 07:39 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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skint

when a man poops in a barbeque he must salt the hair of his wife

<< Comment #547 @ 08:46 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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u3a6 - Reply to #543

thx for the info, i can die now.

<< Comment #550 @ 08:56 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun

ESL streaming CZM vs Vo0?

Edited by zalu at 08:59 CDT, 10 October 2010

<< Comment #551 @ 09:00 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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stunt.us

hope czm keeps playing after this and drops EG so he can switch back to a good mouse.

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<< Comment #552 @ 09:01 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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u3a6

STREAM, I WANT THE FUCKING STREAM!

<< Comment #555 @ 09:12 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ArchaiK

so will esl stream czm vs. voo?

<< Comment #556 @ 09:13 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #555

Update: Today on stage/ESL TV: 3rd Final Quake, Final Quake

<< Comment #557 @ 09:14 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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skint

no stream?

<< Comment #558 @ 09:15 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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PerpetualWar

whats the link for the stream ?

<< Comment #559 @ 09:15 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #558

http://tv.esl.eu/de/

<< Comment #561 @ 09:16 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #558

A banner just popped up:

The show will start soon.

Then it disappeared. So I assume the show will start soon. :)

<< Comment #563 @ 09:23 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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PerpetualWar - Reply to #561

do u see anything there ? cause its a black screen for me :/

<< Comment #565 @ 09:26 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #563

Yeah, I see a banner - a placeholder screen so to speak.

<< Comment #575 @ 09:56 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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PerpetualWar - Reply to #565

ye its working now ;)

<< Comment #566 @ 09:27 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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scowl - Reply to #563

"world's best gamers meet in season V" etc

http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_edge_free/#/de/eslt...5-flv-free

<< Comment #569 @ 09:30 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #561

When a banner saying that "the show will start soon" is taken down, you can assume that the show won't start soon.

Or maybe it will, but at this point in time nobody's having a clue if it does.

<< Comment #560 @ 09:15 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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boenk

i suppose all ql matches are postponed to tomorrow?

<< Comment #562 @ 09:22 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Infuscomus

stream is up? i see nothing

<< Comment #564 @ 09:26 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #562

[img]

Edited by t1e at 09:27 CDT, 10 October 2010

<< Comment #567 @ 09:28 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #564

kk, starting now :D

<< Comment #578 @ 09:59 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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uNhoLeee - Reply to #564

fixed

(i can't see nothing either)

Edited by uNhoLeee at 10:15 CDT, 10 October 2010

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<< Comment #604 @ 10:38 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #578

hehe, lol'd

but tbh quality is fine to me, smoothness>blockyness

<< Comment #568 @ 09:29 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun

Shows live.

<< Comment #570 @ 09:31 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #568

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1971949#pid1971949
first
first
you second, ye?

<< Comment #571 @ 09:31 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ffx

Voooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo0

<< Comment #572 @ 09:32 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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By

zar4

stream up

<< Comment #573 @ 09:40 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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By

z3R0`

VLC LINK for STREAM needed, probs with browser IE/FF :<

<< Comment #587 @ 10:13 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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kevz - Reply to #573

u prolly already have it but here it is again:

http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms2/0/0MediaPlayer+0+/esl.oph350/esloph350

needs octoshape.

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<< Comment #574 @ 09:56 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Lethe

czm's hub is 2004 again

<< Comment #576 @ 09:56 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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scowl

sick hub. czm is back \o/

<< Comment #577 @ 09:58 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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stripy '

just amazing how quickly czm is catching up to the current skill lvl of top players. rly do hope he continues to play ql. with this rate of progression, he will be crazy in 3-6months

<< Comment #590 @ 10:15 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (68.119.219.54)

Chance seems like a good guy and all, but he sounds too shy and scared to cast. He talks quietly and timidly, and keeps saying "uh"

<< Comment #579 @ 10:03 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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esdf '

did czm just started quake with quake live? sure seems so when looking at his aim :D

<< Comment #580 @ 10:04 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Mr.Yes

octo fuckup, learn to stream lemmings

<< Comment #581 @ 10:10 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Lethe

hacking that mh tele on dismemberment is by far the gayest shit i've seen in quake since t2 times

<< Comment #585 @ 10:12 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Naghokez - Reply to #581

idd

<< Comment #609 @ 10:42 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #581

I wasn't there, what happened?

<< Comment #611 @ 10:48 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #609

vo0 hugging the teleport with his rl 20x

<< Comment #582 @ 10:11 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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scowl

wow, dismemberment is crap.

<< Comment #583 @ 10:11 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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fuzz

+baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack

<< Comment #584 @ 10:11 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Naghokez

Holy shit what a fucking bad map dismemberment is.

<< Comment #586 @ 10:13 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ffx

Yeah bring back t9 and new battleforged for dismemberment and t4 :=)

<< Comment #588 @ 10:15 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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gyr0 - Reply to #586

new phrantic instead of t9

<< Comment #589 @ 10:15 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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d1z '

lol @ czm missing a jump to RA

<< Comment #591 @ 10:15 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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f0rk123

entertaining start to ztn :o

<< Comment #592 @ 10:16 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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esdf '

rofl czm. what a shitnub display of skill. hope he doesnt embarass himself on world finals

<< Comment #593 @ 10:18 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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gyr0 - Reply to #592

give the guy a break, he was inactive from all gaming for a long time and now has played ql for a month while the other players there have played for 2½ years

<< Comment #594 @ 10:18 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Dynamix - Reply to #592

5 months or something to practice isn't it?

He'll be pretty sick if he plays regularly.

<< Comment #595 @ 10:21 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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h8m3

whos 2nd commentator?

<< Comment #596 @ 10:22 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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duumed - Reply to #595

chance

<< Comment #597 @ 10:22 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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esdf '

czm needs some railing lessons from k1llsen

<< Comment #600 @ 10:25 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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scowl - Reply to #597

yeah, given that he only hit 54% rail against vo0 on hub and dominated him for 8 minutes on ztn.

[-]

<< Comment #598 @ 10:23 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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luanswan2002

DAT ZTN!

<< Comment #599 @ 10:24 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Lethe

i would have died there (c) chance

hahaha

chance is ok.

<< Comment #601 @ 10:25 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E

CHANCE! BLASPHEMY!!
ztn out?

<< Comment #615 @ 10:56 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #601

It's a good suggestion. ZTN is fucking lame IMHO.

Drop Dismemberment and ZTN; add Phrantic and T9.

<< Comment #602 @ 10:25 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Dynamix

Can't be top 4 without ZTN my friend.

<< Comment #603 @ 10:28 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #602

he almost beat cooller on ztn @ qcon iirc

<< Comment #605 @ 10:39 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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zar4

Man dismemberment sucks ass, feel like T9/battleforged/phrantic would be the perfect replacement for that crap map + T4

<< Comment #606 @ 10:40 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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luanswan2002

SPRAY SEQUENCE INITIATED!

<< Comment #607 @ 10:40 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E

ahahaha
that razer commercial:

>spray initialized

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<< Comment #608 @ 10:40 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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LukKe

wp by czm.. the king of aero is slowly coming back even when he misses ra jumps on ztn like its no big deal o/

<< Comment #610 @ 10:46 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ffx

I like the Smerican scene because the average level is pretty high and equal. Reminds me of the European semi pro level. Players like guard, fazz, madix, agent and so on.

<< Comment #612 @ 10:50 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Something

Carmac definately looks hotter as a girl :)

<< Comment #613 @ 10:54 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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mental

Be nice to have a definitive time for the finals instead of, "coming up next."

Edit: And wtf is this octoshape nonsense? Never seen it until I tried watching some matches last night. But I've just watched Vo0 vs czm and didn't need this plugin. Nor for quakecon streams from what I remember.

Edited by mental at 11:10 CDT, 10 October 2010

<< Comment #614 @ 10:55 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Nukm

demos are available now: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/newyork/news/137360/

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<< Comment #618 @ 11:02 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #614

I picked semis demos, but upload sucks!

<< Comment #721 @ 22:06 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #614

thank you...very much looking forward to chance making potato salad!!

<< Comment #616 @ 11:00 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E

meanwhile on levelupyourgame.net

guard has been railed by ESC.k1llsen
guard: hah!
guard has been railed by ESC.k1llsen
guard: hah!

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<< Comment #617 @ 11:00 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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stingerrayer

CZM COMMENTATING

<< Comment #619 @ 11:05 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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weltschmerz

Love how it always says "stay tuned", but when you try there is no tune.

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<< Comment #620 @ 11:06 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN

Stream gone down? :(

<< Comment #621 @ 11:13 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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pks - Reply to #620

The alt stream is still up

http://gouzouboudou.free.fr/ESL-TV.html

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<< Comment #624 @ 11:16 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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smari - Reply to #621

thx!
Is hub first map?

<< Comment #626 @ 11:19 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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pks - Reply to #624

second map, rapha won dm13 12-6 or something

<< Comment #632 @ 11:30 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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calleking - Reply to #621

can't even get the alternative stream to work :/

<< Comment #622 @ 11:14 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Nico_QD - Reply to #620

cant see too.. ((

<< Comment #623 @ 11:16 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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r1ddler

joe & czm casting <3 ^ ^

<< Comment #625 @ 11:18 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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pks

4hp +forward with lg

fuk yeh

<< Comment #627 @ 11:25 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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scowl

how many times did rapha leave a fight with single digit health on hub? ridiculous.

Edited by scowl at 11:38 CDT, 10 October 2010

<< Comment #629 @ 11:26 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #627

all times lucky

<< Comment #652 @ 12:14 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #629

suck a dick.

<< Comment #628 @ 11:25 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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stripy '

u can hear czm learning / figuring things out :D
("hmm")

<< Comment #630 @ 11:28 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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wata

Joe may be friendly and all, his comments are pointless

<< Comment #631 @ 11:30 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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kallgren

Whats the score? was waiting for the main stream to start but t didnt ;(

<< Comment #644 @ 11:42 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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scowl - Reply to #631

rapha 3:0 dahang in 3 rather close maps

<< Comment #634 @ 11:36 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Nico_QD

wtf, cant see any this stream links!! (((

<< Comment #645 @ 11:47 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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danulx

nobody beated rapha at least one map lol

<< Comment #647 @ 11:48 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude - Reply to #645

I can foresee how czm/vo0/dahang get owned in IEM world final...

<< Comment #635 @ 11:37 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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scowl

wow. dahang just lost a fight with 200/200 and position advantage. amazing play by rapha at that moment.

<< Comment #639 @ 11:40 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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MonTy - Reply to #635

I guess Rapha knows Dahang that well? I could have never imagine running into that YA to fight a full stacked dahang.

<< Comment #725 @ 23:24 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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butcher_kgp - Reply to #639

to be honest dahang messed up there.

<< Comment #636 @ 11:38 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Aquashark

don't worry guys it was really boring.. not worth watching imho

let's go StarCraft final!!

<< Comment #637 @ 11:38 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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player1

http://forexfalcon.ziom.tk

<< Comment #638 @ 11:39 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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By

obi

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz final

<< Comment #640 @ 11:41 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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zar4

streams down :|

<< Comment #643 @ 11:42 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude

Don't quite understand why put this with comic market. From the video you can see that place is full of dumb otaku. Those idiots won't interest in QL, for sure.

<< Comment #646 @ 11:47 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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IrrSolicitude

Rapha 3-0 DaHanG

<< Comment #648 @ 11:54 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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gyr0

The level of American players just gets worse and worse compared to Europe.

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<< Comment #655 @ 12:23 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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per1klez - Reply to #648

ok UK.

<< Comment #657 @ 12:38 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #655

Yeah because that's a fair comparison when you look at the size and populations of the two nations

<< Comment #658 @ 12:48 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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per1klez - Reply to #657

??? he said it, not me.
But to respond: Quake is slowly dying in the US, all anyone plays now is ca.
So its quite sad when someone makes a comment like that - embarrassing themselves, their country and no doubt the rest of the world, when seeing as how the US still has no trouble dominating CTF and 1v1 worldwide.

<< Comment #661 @ 12:57 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #658

You basically confirmed what he said then. The level and activity of the US scene is getting worse.

So what's your point?

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #661

I've been in FFA with about at least one hundred peeps that would rape every single human being on planet earth if they decided to get serious and go duel.

Or, at least, that is my hunch.

The talent is out there. NA just gives me the impression that they are less serious about competitive gaming, and more about having fun.

Of course, I don't know if this is true. I just get that impression.

Edit:

Don't be raged n00bs, I'm having fun.

I don't know why the Quake Live scene in NA is bollocks. I'd have to research it.

Edited by zalu at 03:29 CDT, 18 October 2010

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Toin Coss - Reply to #669

"I've been in FFA with about at least one hundred peeps that would rape every single human being on planet earth if they decided to get serious and go duel."

rofl

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #675

I had to plus you.

<< Comment #699 @ 17:18 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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dansen - Reply to #669

get in line right behind jamerio plz

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<< Comment #845 @ 03:09 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #699

Where is the parallel? If only X then Y? Does Jamerio say if only he would do X then he would rape everybody?

<< Comment #763 @ 12:18 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #669

can i take a screenshot of your post for future reference of ultimate internet stupidity?

<< Comment #843 @ 03:04 CDT, 18 October 2010 >>

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KitesAreFun - Reply to #763

Sure :)

<< Comment #701 @ 17:21 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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flowrush - Reply to #661

Really you should be asking what is gyr0's point? Everyone knows' ql is practically dead in NA, therefore talking about level (of skill) being less than places where ql isn't as dead or dying is redundant and stupid.

<< Comment #665 @ 13:07 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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scowl - Reply to #658

when seeing as how the US still has no trouble dominating CTF and 1v1 worldwide.

wtf?

1v1: rapha's been beaten by a lot of European players lately but doesn't lose a single map against fellow Americans. Also: vo0 takes third place.

CTF: EG only had to take on fnatic, resulting in very close matches. Fnatic, however, lose to broken and k1ck on a regular basis.

<< Comment #681 @ 14:33 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (24.132.198.184) - Reply to #665

Neither of those teams felt confident enough to pay for airfare. They knew they'd probably lose money. Only European team to win a CTF event on lan was aAa, and that was 6 years ago. :/

<< Comment #711 @ 18:09 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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scowl - Reply to #681

anonymous has spoken. :D

<< Comment #716 @ 19:22 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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dem0n - Reply to #681

the fnatic ctf team isnt good at all compared to what europe can offer best.

Anyway I heard of an european QCON project... <o/

<< Comment #683 @ 14:51 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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gyr0 - Reply to #658

I'm not taking any sides or mocking Americans. I was merely stating a fact

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Bob - Reply to #657

.

Edited by Bob at 14:51 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #687 @ 15:08 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #680

Again - that's just reinforcing the point that was made in the first post he was trying to disprove...

What are you trying to get at?

<< Comment #703 @ 17:38 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Bob - Reply to #687

.

Edited by Bob at 14:51 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #704 @ 17:44 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #703

I never hinted at anything. I was saying it was a warped comparison. It still stands that SE and UK are part of Europe which vs US comes out at the same thing. The point I was getting across was waiting for him to state what you said (that se > uk in terms of population) just to point out that it really doesn't make any odds because by comparison of SE to US they're not much better

<< Comment #649 @ 11:54 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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tourist

out with pole filler in with sc plox

<< Comment #651 @ 11:59 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Lethe

joe is a great guy, but he totally failed @ commentating together with czm. just looking around, not even listening most of the time

czm did a good job

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<< Comment #656 @ 12:24 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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kAi^ - Reply to #651

alright lips

<< Comment #653 @ 12:16 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (78.73.120.155)

no stream at aaal working.. nice

<< Comment #654 @ 12:18 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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xou

I just finished uploading finals demos on ESR
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1972094
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1972089

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<< Comment #659 @ 12:50 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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d1z ' - Reply to #654

tnx.

<< Comment #692 @ 15:47 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Thorin ' - Reply to #654

gj

<< Comment #662 @ 13:02 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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xou

Drewbie 2-3 HuK

<< Comment #670 @ 13:19 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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T1E

gief

k1llsen-cypher
cooller-rapha

semifinals @ iem finals!!

that should decide BEST QUAKER EVER for all times!

<< Comment #694 @ 15:59 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ffx - Reply to #670

k1llsen - cypher final :D

And don't underestimate spermy and av3k. Spermy is the rapha killer and av3k can easily win vs everyone. In addition I wouldn't take out strenx because he lost vs every tournament winner pretty close (qc cypher/cooller and gc k1llsen).
This being said I wanna see a k1llsen cypher final both in their best shape. I think this would be one of the greatest finals ever :)

<< Comment #696 @ 16:45 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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vxd - Reply to #694

cypher vs k1llsen

Yea lets back to 2008 :D

<< Comment #710 @ 18:08 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #694

all of THIS, except s(t)ermy please -- pretty sure he likes chicks.

<< Comment #742 @ 06:30 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #670

killsen :(?

The guy has only won one thing ever, and struggled to get one 3rdplace finish for the past few years.
His quakecon victory was more of a discredit to his opponents than a credit to him. If he wins something ever again part from zotac ill rethink what I said.

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zealot - Reply to #742

he won cpl italy(?) in q3 :p you guys keep forgetting...

<< Comment #759 @ 11:27 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #749

according to google fox won that, and 4th place is to the amazing Alexey "`50|apo5tol" Altshuller

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zealot - Reply to #759

true, but this is honestly bs:
The guy has only won one thing ever, and struggled to get one 3rdplace finish for the past few years.

http://www.k1llsen.de/results/

2006
2nd place CPL ITALY 1on1 Tournament
2008
2nd place ESWC, World Cup San José, USA 1on1 Tournament
2008
2nd place Kode5 Global Finals at Games Convention in Lepzig 1on1 Tournament

no idea why you're this hostile :/

<< Comment #785 @ 15:39 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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amOKchen - Reply to #778

can you post the top4 finishers as well :D, think we will find more of the likes of apo5

Edited by amOKchen at 15:39 CDT, 11 October 2010

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zealot - Reply to #785

san jose ( http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1601387 )
1: srs`Cypher - $12 000
2: k1llsen - $7 000
3: SK-Rapha - $4 000
4: RazerJ
5-8: EG.chance, SK-Zero4, LLL-fox, EG.czm

leipzig
1 toxic
2 killsen
3 cooller
?

<< Comment #795 @ 18:22 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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noctis - Reply to #789

more like
1: srs`Cypher - $0
2: k1llsen - $0
3: SK-Rapha - $0

:P

<< Comment #796 @ 18:38 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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zealot - Reply to #795

:<

what's the g7 doing?

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funnyb - Reply to #789

"2nd place Kode5 Global Finals at Games Convention in Lepzig 1on1 Tournament"

yeah where cooller just didn't show up for the final and therefore k1llsen go to play it instead

win!

<< Comment #821 @ 09:46 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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zealot - Reply to #819

hm, thought that happened 2006 not 2008, but you're most probably right.

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funnyb - Reply to #821

i just remember it being a kode5 event, don't take my word for it :o

<< Comment #761 @ 11:32 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #742

people said pretty much the same after ESWC San Diego in 2008, considering it was on shitty monitors.

<< Comment #832 @ 14:56 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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T1E - Reply to #670

inb4

mousesports.cooller -vs- cooller
mouse.cooller -vs- MSports.COOLLER

<< Comment #672 @ 13:37 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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mefajpE^

VODs?

rapha has no competition in US, I bet you could find at least 10 players in EU who would give him a much better run.

gratz Shane! Flawless victory :-]

<< Comment #688 @ 15:34 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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judge717 - Reply to #672

no one plays qlive in NA.

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<< Comment #673 @ 13:39 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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miicah

What the shit happened to SC2?

Apparently it's over, while I've been watching boring fucking CS for the last 20mins?

<< Comment #677 @ 13:50 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Roswell47 - Reply to #673

The 3rd place match was not casted. The final will be on after the CS final is done.

<< Comment #674 @ 13:43 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Mav_

Who won each map in the VoO-czm game? Want to watch the demos from winners' pov.

ed: nvm, just checked their profiles.

Edited by Mav_ at 13:44 CDT, 10 October 2010

<< Comment #678 @ 14:01 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Cwiru

Imo DaHanG has a little config problem. Hes not so accurate as he was before. Also movement is curious and nervous. Maybe im wrong, but i think it is. Anyway GG and he confirms that still is nr 2 i America. Big GG for czm, and if he dont stop to play, than will be very strong so soon !

<< Comment #679 @ 14:10 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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erok - Reply to #678

yeah he just doesn't seem as confident in his play as he used to

<< Comment #684 @ 14:52 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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gyr0

configsconfigsconfigs

<< Comment #685 @ 14:58 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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horf - Reply to #684

thisthisthis

<< Comment #689 @ 15:41 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Anonymous (86.130.187.209) - Reply to #685

Somebody post the configs ty

<< Comment #690 @ 15:42 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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horf - Reply to #689

This^

<< Comment #691 @ 15:46 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #689

erm...

<< Comment #841 @ 17:14 CDT, 15 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #684

http://gouzouboudou.free.fr/QuakeLive/IEM5%20AC%20Finals/

<< Comment #693 @ 15:52 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Roswell47

Fenix is from Peru damnit :<

<< Comment #695 @ 16:43 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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xou - Reply to #693

He totally looks like he is, but never found any info about his nationality

<< Comment #697 @ 16:49 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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yikes

vods? :D

<< Comment #706 @ 17:45 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #697

Don't be silly. This is Quake

<< Comment #707 @ 17:45 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #697

i agree with that. People from other countries are good for nothing.

<< Comment #700 @ 17:18 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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koji

scores on the maps?? :|

<< Comment #705 @ 17:45 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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kg

It should've been rapha dahang voo and zero4. c:

<< Comment #723 @ 22:19 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #705

Hear ya there, but nice to see a good guy like vamp1re get to enjoy himself playing in a big tourney.

<< Comment #708 @ 17:50 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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weeja

zero4 is ghey

<< Comment #712 @ 18:20 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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judge717

does ziel remind anyone else of steve zahn? lol his interview , to me, was like watching a younger steve zahn who plays video games.

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<< Comment #722 @ 22:13 CDT, 10 October 2010 >>

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evilbollweevil - Reply to #712

yea same kinda...has that slightly "hunched up" excited to talk about something demeanor; hard to describe, but good call there.

<< Comment #726 @ 00:09 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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miNd

Look at your comment. Back to mine. Back to yours NOW BACK TO MINE. Sadly, it isn't mine. But if you stopped trolling and started posting legitimate crap it could LOOK like mine. Look down, back up, where are you? You're scrolling through comments, finding the ones that your comment could look like. Back at mine, what is it? It's a highly effective counter-troll. Look again, MY COMMENT IS NOW DIAMONDS.

Anything is possible when you think before you comment or post.

I'm on a computer.

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<< Comment #728 @ 01:12 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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Jazzy - Reply to #726

:(

<< Comment #729 @ 02:25 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #726

I'm on a freeeeakin' Hooorse!

Edited by Memento_Mori at 02:25 CDT, 11 October 2010

<< Comment #731 @ 04:04 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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Twisp.

nice rapha didnt drop 1 map in the whole tournament

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therm - Reply to #731

its not like he is that good

its just his opponents suck bad

seriously just look at the line up..

chance? who the fuck is this guy seriously? he won anything in his life?

dahang? even strenx rapes him hard with no effort

voo? not relevant to my interests wont even comment the guy

dkt same lvl as chance

czm dunno for me wasnt anything special back in the days might be wrong

many thanks to all of them for participating and keeping the game alive but lets be honest they re all bad and re no competition for rapha

<< Comment #736 @ 05:16 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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Lethe - Reply to #734

yeah, practicing with mediocre guys all year long and still managing to win almost all tournaments even when the euros show up is pretty impressive.

<< Comment #741 @ 06:28 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #736

i fully agree mate i just said its not that impressive to not loose a map vs them

<< Comment #739 @ 05:57 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #734

I srsly hope you're trolling. If you're not, then you should stop analyzing quake you dumb faggot.
Who has won most of the titles dating back 2 years? For that matter, who is undoubtedly the
best QL player by far considering the amount of 1st places??? Who has he beaten at all those competitions?? Not only americans, but you're little euro buddies. esad

<< Comment #740 @ 06:27 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #739

can u read sir?

i didnt say hes not good

i just said its not that impressive to not loose a single map vs shit opponents

look dahang came second and hes much worse than strenx

+for me personally rapha is only good at winning tournaments (same as fatality back in the days)

but thats only my personal opinion

<< Comment #743 @ 08:14 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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duumed - Reply to #740

he's american, of course he can't read

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judge717 - Reply to #743

pretty sure finland's literacy rate is the same as america's.

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becks - Reply to #747

seems realisitic.

However, I'm not sure for which country got the worse end in that comparison ;P

<< Comment #816 @ 07:27 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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scowl - Reply to #740

i'll just comment one of your "points":

vo0 dominated a really really really hard practicing fatal1ty _for years_, that tells us enough about his skill, doesn't hit?

<< Comment #820 @ 09:19 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #816

i know hes good i just dont like the guy hence my opinion

<< Comment #827 @ 04:34 CDT, 13 October 2010 >>

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scowl - Reply to #820

mimimimi

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therm - Reply to #827

Edited by 7herm at 04:41 CDT, 13 October 2010

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terrorhead - Reply to #739

I am looking at your post history and wow you're one angry fuckin spic faggot.

Edited by terrorhead at 17:03 CDT, 11 October 2010

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<< Comment #802 @ 21:14 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #792

lmao low-life.

<< Comment #752 @ 10:23 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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scowl - Reply to #734

even by your low standards, this is an incredibly dumb post.

Edited by scowl at 10:24 CDT, 11 October 2010

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therm - Reply to #752

its not actually

u watch quake? like lots of it? if u do ud have the same opinion

rapha has nothing else to do in his life at the moment besides quake (he said it himself) while all the others do other stuffs and it shows

+ again he is inceredibly good at winning tournaments (staying calm)

<< Comment #801 @ 21:13 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #758

LMAO wow Rapha wins 90% percent of the time and you still dont' want to give him credit? you're a fucking salty euro cunt aren't you?

<< Comment #807 @ 00:58 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #801

well, noone is going to give you credit for reading skills.

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<< Comment #809 @ 02:23 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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therm - Reply to #807

this ;/

<< Comment #814 @ 03:28 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #807

the hate is pretty obvious if you ask me.

<< Comment #815 @ 03:37 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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becks - Reply to #814

well yes, you really do believe that.

That is why I wrote that you suck at reading.

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<< Comment #737 @ 05:35 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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Bloodpa1nt

It's not the game that fucking sucks. It's the fucking sucky player.

<< Comment #738 @ 05:44 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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OSEF

CZM SUCKS nuff said.

<< Comment #746 @ 09:29 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #738

How is exactly sucking to get a 4th place with all the math he studied while having nearly no tiem to practice quake int the last years? CLUELESS

<< Comment #748 @ 09:47 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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OSEF - Reply to #746

His aim was way better in 2004.

So he sucks, u cannot win, by aiming like this nowdays. And i am not sure, playing 24 hours / day, during 1 month can change something.

Edited by OSEF at 09:48 CDT, 11 October 2010

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scowl - Reply to #748

his aim on hub and ztn was pretty impressive. he just needs to work out the angles on new maps like t7.

<< Comment #818 @ 08:55 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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EddieF4 - Reply to #748

well CZM has been inactive in quake for years. We'll see how he does at the finals. Cooller wasn't his sharpest when he first came back but is now one of the top players. CZM could easily regain top form if he practices religiously.

<< Comment #791 @ 16:59 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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terrorhead - Reply to #738

yeh his movement blows and his aim sucks.

<< Comment #745 @ 09:27 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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s3nse

you can find some of the more epic games and povs on my youtube. http://www.youtube.com/quakezoo more to come.

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<< Comment #750 @ 10:02 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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zealot - Reply to #745

why bloom... why??

apart from that, thanks for the (wasted) effort :(

<< Comment #754 @ 10:26 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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s3nse - Reply to #750

because i want to broaden the player base of this game and am trying to get it out there. i asked a whole heap of people around college who hadn't played the game what they thought and there was a clear consensus. that being said of course im open to feedback and will likely tone it down next time around (:

<< Comment #787 @ 16:19 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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zealot - Reply to #754

yes, please! :>

<< Comment #751 @ 10:09 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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smari - Reply to #745

They really need to start streaming in high quality if they want to attract some new players.
Hektik looks great in these vids (maybe a bit too shiny).

<< Comment #760 @ 11:28 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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Bloodpa1nt - Reply to #745

I like it, thanks ;-)

<< Comment #764 @ 12:27 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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stingerrayer - Reply to #745

nice, i think the config looks great

<< Comment #774 @ 13:57 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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kg - Reply to #764

Looked decent on the rapha/dahang hektik game, but the cooller/spartie aerowalk was like watching through mist.

<< Comment #799 @ 20:09 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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s3nse - Reply to #745

3 maps from the Dahang/VoO Semi now up. <3 Vo0

<< Comment #767 @ 12:47 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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f0cus

To those that don't get the poor aim in the NA scene, it's very uncommon that any two very high level players will have LAN comparable ping. I don't remember the last time I connected to a server with under 60 ping. Usually 90 is what I average. So the European players that are used to 30 and less, yes, they'll have a lot more experience and practice using brutal accuracy to their advantage. NA players don't get this luxury, so even if they match their opponent with strategy, they simply don't have a daily means of practicing with LAN ping.
Yes, I realize there's more to Eu than Sweden, but I'd love to know the avg ping of players like K1llsen, Strenx and any other uber-aimers you can think of.
For reference, how often did Cypher lose in Zotac with his ~80 ping? Just about all of 'em?
Do you think he'd be losing on LAN? I don't.

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kg - Reply to #767

For reference, how often did Cypher lose in Zotac with his ~80 ping? Just about all of 'em?

He just won the last msi (?) thing with 90 ping.

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f0cus - Reply to #776

right, out of how many times that he participated?
and did he play Strenx at that ping? (honest question, I don't know if he did or not)

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ffx - Reply to #779

Doesn't change the fact that cypher still has a superb aim at lans ;)
But I do agree that the ping situation is in europe better but only for those who live nearby like strenx-k1llsen and so on.

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u3a6 - Reply to #779

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1H8Y5wn6A4

10%

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f0cus - Reply to #783

that was very enjoyable, thanks

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u3a6 - Reply to #786

No problem : ])

<< Comment #804 @ 23:56 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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ZeritoN - Reply to #783

Hey look, that's my video :P

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u3a6 - Reply to #804

;D That is greate stuff!

<< Comment #780 @ 14:34 CDT, 11 October 2010 >>

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thelawenforcer

reminds me of wh4t 4rtosis s4id 4bout Qu4kelive vs st4rcr4ft

"this isnt qu4kelive, there 4re 4ctu4lly upsets"

my key next to s is broken btw ^^

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slux - Reply to #780

Yeah, right. No upsets in Quake Live this year, none at all. Rapha's managed to win it all again... except that he hasn't.

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noctis - Reply to #800

hardly an upset, was just a matter of time

i guess he rather means smth like a total unknown winning or placing top3 in an event

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thelawenforcer - Reply to #800

what are his win percentages though?

in starcraft the best player ever only has a 75% win ratio

it makes for much more interesting viewing imo.

but i guess u cant really change that bcos its partly the nature of the game.

just cos rapha won once in the finals doesnt make thing less predictable.

Edited by thelawenforcer at 15:09 CDT, 23 October 2010

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T1E

http://www.myeg.net/blogs/user_blog.php?blog_id=1033

pretty interesting, short interview with DaHang

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terrorhead

Shit games, only 1 good player. Dahang chokes like a bitch as usual.

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p4r4 - Reply to #790

He didn't "choke", he played at his expected level and lost as was expected.

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mefajpE^

vods with czm? :C

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klout

So much hate in these posts. Like any of you guys bashing on these players have any room to do so. Let's see you complainers even try and make it to a ESL Championship... As for the person saying rapha has no life, just quake .. Look at k1llsen. He's basically married and has a couple kids an manages to be insanely awesome. Dahang didn't 'choke', he simply got out played.

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p4r4 - Reply to #798

A single upset does not make a player "insanely awesome". First, let's see how k1llsen does in some more tourneys, only then you can say anything about his awesomeness.

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Derb_

KEEP RACKING UP THE MONEY RAPHA. DON'T LET THE EURO HATERS DETER YOU FROM AMASSING
MORE 1ST PLACES.

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becks - Reply to #803

and rapha, while you do that, don't be embarassed for your country men.

We have retards here, too :)

<< Comment #823 @ 10:35 CDT, 12 October 2010 >>

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