Cypher - strenx is always a grudge match since strenx was called stupid when cypher came back 9-0 on him on dm6 and ztn to win games etc.
Guard-cooller good smack talk
spart1e -vs cooller - when cooller said he can only win vs him early in the day
k1llsen vs av3k - not much talk, but av3k sure doesnt like to lose vs him, he's lost a lot of matches vs k1llsen. Remember when he picked ca2 for a tournament map and raged av3k?
stermy vs rapha - not a grudge match, but its expected that stermy beat rapha again, and advance, which makes it $$$$ to spectate.
After that its either:
Strenx vs cooller / i'm talking it?
cypher vs cooller / qcon revenge match?
cypher vs spart1e / proud? (cypher rage)
rapha vs k1llsen / gamescon revenge match
ah. didn't realize you had the magic crystal ball to see wich players played after the first round ;) but yeah youre right, those would be good grudge matches :)
i hope so.. but i dont see stermy on shape lately.. lets hope he'll get a good warmup with msi tournament and than he will be ready for dh..
ofc i'd like to be proven wrong immediately
PS. unfortunately he had connection problem last week from what i heard and wasnt able to train how he would have liked to
Edited by _unsteady at 07:38 CST, 24 November 2010
if you are going to have rapha win one and lose one versus av3k, I think it's way more likely that rapha loses the first one.
Cause that's how he rolls.
thats true.. also being objective is hard to see rapha lose two matches in this tourney if not at the very end.. but i made this prediction based on preferences too so i want av3k and cypher to finally beat him (i think they never won vs rapha in a ql lan(2009-2010)?)
Edited by _unsteady at 08:46 CST, 24 November 2010
Unrealistic, av3k can't take rapha, the agressive style just doesnt work against rapha, and after a few unsuccessful rushes he'll go emo mode and the game is over. :)
Don't get me wrong, I'd rather see av3k win this matchup, but aint gonna happen. ;)
differs, on week-ends between midnight and eight in the morning.
usually between eleven and one during the week.
I've also had the "fun" business trips, where I get up at 4 am to get my flight, return home at eleven pm, knowing I gotta get up at seven in the next morning.
I also haven't get the slightest problem with sleeping till nine.
Unfortunately, even after staying up till four or five on a Friday I'll still be awake at nine the next morning :(
If it makes you feel better, yesterday I had to fill-in for my superior and show a Russian delegation around a construction site, so I also had to sit in the meeting to "get to know them". all in all ~ 6 hours on top of the tasks I had planned for that day.
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cooller can't place 3rd, cause he doesn't care about the 3rd place match. then again, i just realized that if it's DE, that would mean that he lost the LB finals, which is totally possible, so i maybe fucked the prediction up.
Just to get this correct, the 'beat it' (michael jackson child-molestation?), tournament is happening simultaneously with dreamhack? How does it all work with timing?
Hey after sitting on my ass staring at a computer screen waiting impatiently for games to start during the wee hours of the morning I tend to get a little dozy, who wouldn't?
But i got a decent nights sleep last night so I'm ready for this shit, fu body clock, fu lab at 9:25am, fu quake delays.
Agreed a VLC link would be helpful. The levelup streams for me seem quite sporadic, I can't predict whether or not I'll get bufferless video or a video that won't even show anything.
Cooller beats guard without any trouble. Guard seemed too nervous (read it as: he make silly decisions/rushes). I guess lack of lan experience+playing vs cooller takes it's own.
nope :) I came, I had 15 min to set hardware and cfg. I dont understand win 7 good, so I played with no mouse drivers, no good cfg, no 500hz mouse and bad headset (broke mine). With home conditions and 50 ms , i would beat cooller easy on hub for sure, like he played that game.
ps. vs noctis I had everything ok, but just diferent sens from xp (but everything was realy not bad, i dont whine about that )
it's not lack of experience, it's lack of good configuration pc on lan...
most players feels like in home , I had bad gfx , bad sound , no drivers and so on. but I didn't whined to admins , becose It's still fun for me to play and I don't aim to top3.
You did just fine. As for home thing... yeah, they just attend so many lans that they are used to it. Keep it going, after 1-2-3 lans you will get what you need(experience).
Ah 2 events at DH, I was slightly confused.. because I remember seeing some games scheduled on Saturday and then there is this that plays thurs/fri and i'm like wtf, sadface.
yeah i'm having the same problem myself. av3k - k1llsenis going to be more equal but seeing cypher play and prolly raping the french fag.... CAN'T DECIDE
k1llsen av3k changed to rapha - stermy. so cypher it is
The Level Up dudes are bringing the goods for sure.
Stream looks amazing, decent casting and interviews inbetween matches to kill some of the downtime.
Would be even more amazing if they could get 2GD to drop some lines as well. Here's to hoping.
It might have been deliberate. Setting them at the same time means a safe pick up, then the ability to position yourself for the next fight, rather than take some risks with bad positioning to take all major items.
Cypher killed strenx and had a good stack so why should you let him back into the game? Strenx didn't have a rail so he could have peeked without any risk.
Strenx can time but due to his lowsense he lost so many rocket fights :**(
no, it was a mistake. not a delaying mistake but timing mistake. he delayed ra to exactly mh time and went to mh 10 seconds too early to "pick it up" soon to realize that his timing is off and rushed in panic to ra only to see strenx take it. nothing biggie tho. i wouldn't say his timing is shit, but it was a pretty sloppy mistake taking in consideration that he was in control.
Gotta respect rapha. Such a smart player. Who would thought he'd beat stermy on hektik after stermy hit 70% rail [10 impressives] on that map vs noctis!
Finally have a great poster boy for quake in the NA scene. Rapha really is a class act, great interviews and great humility about losing to k1llsen and all that. Really good stuff.
Z4 was an arrogant fuck, DKT is a bitch, chance sucks, chaoticz sucks, socrates was blah.
Dahang is boring as shit. You can argue for CZM, however he wasn't into shoutcasting and giving long interviews and stuff. so hes out.
own3d really needs to get rid of these ads that interrupt the stream...
im fine with ads int he beginning if they enable them to run their great streaming service but this goes to far imho
its a banner that pops up on the bottom and if you dont close it in a second it fill cover the whole screen and interrupt the screen until you close it
I did for the european championship finals and world championship finals of the last IEM season, I probably will again this season.
lvl^'s stream quality is still better than ESL TV's premium service and ischju is doing a good job casting the games and interviewing the players so I don't miss Joe or Carmac too much, the only thing both streams lack is some 2GD or someone else with some great insight like rapha, calipt, stermy.
Of course Joe is a better caster he's been doing this for how long? I can still remember him casting the CPL Painkiller World Tour in '05 and he's probably done some other work before that.
What I really miss though is someone who understands every part of the game from a player's POV, like his mindset, some thought processes etc. but I guess we would have to wait at least a few more years until one of the current top players would switch his mouse for a mic :/
He was good in 2009? He took opportunity a couple of times when some top players were inactive or not in shape, but I don't remember him beating any serious opponents.
yeah and noctis played first half of aero fine too, just didnt know what to do out of control and did the worst thing possible vs killsen :/ deserved more overall
also good to see how killsen, whos on every german kids wall by now, after winning a thousand zotacs, barely manages to overcome a relatively unprepared player, at lan
I don't think that k1llsen played good. His rail was ok and his rocket lg was really weak compared to what we are used from him. His dodging and decision making was bad too. So all in all not a good performance if you ask me.
out of all the players, after the event av3k will be richer by the biggest amount
out of all the players, after the event av3k will be richer by the biggest amount
out of all the players, after the event av3k will be richer by the biggest amount
out of all the players, after the event av3k will be richer by the biggest amount
out of all the players, after the event av3k will be richer by the biggest amount
out of all the players, after the event av3k will be richer by the biggest amount
out of all the players, after the event av3k will be richer by the biggest amount
This always fucking happens to me. Im at work and miss some games. Then I come home and no games are running. Im pretty sure soon they will announce that all the remaining games will be played tomorrow when I will be at work again. Fuck this!
he's really good, i need to hear him cast actual games, but its looking good. His voice is clear and not annoying and talks fast . Also he has good phrases and is funny. :)
yeah was a bit disappointing ingame but he has probably never done it before and has the advantage of a nice voice and i just like the way he talks in general, doesnt annoy me
certainly disagree, if cooller wouldn't have +backed so eagerly after the 2 point lead on t7 and wouldn't have lost the first frag on ztn he would have won 2:0
but ofc a lot of if's and when's....we'll see how he does in LB
Cypher is winning games only due to his sick aim and combatskills. If cooller had hit anything with rail on t7 cypher wouldn't stand a chance vs him :x. Cooller picked up so many items but cypher just destroyed him in every combat.
His timing and position based on items isn't the best but as I said his combat skills, aim and instinct are ridiculous. I'm not saying that he is stupid but just watch the first minutes of hektik and you understand what I try to explain.
Cypher is winning games only due to his sick aim and combatskills
bullshit, cypher plays rock solid and does usually not play in a way that requires him to pull of something crazy (like k1llsen for example) but if he does, he is unstoppable.
like on t7, he plays a calm and calculated match and then hits 4 crazy rails from a save spot and easily converts from that. he is always looking (almost forcing) for opportunities to drop ridiculous dmg but the initiation is usually from a comfortable situation where he could as well play safe
Yeah and I never denied it that he does play the save game from a distance and engage the combat whenever he sees an opportunity or just deal a ton of dmg. I think he does a lot of his moves on instinct whereas rapha or cooller calculate every step and item on the map. You don't see that from cypher. Right know he doesn't need it. Rapha/cooller have to hit their shots vs cypher otherwise they'll lose. I think k1llsen or strenx can beat him because both can time 2+ items and have a aim which can keep up with cypher's.
I know my written english is crap and that I can't express myself properly. I never would call cypher a brainless aimwhore just that he lags some skills. Otherwise he would rape everyone like nothing.
hmm imho cypher does time just fine and as vo0 mentioned earlier, the "i dont time ra" thing is a myth. but yeah, some players delay items a lot more active. not sure if we understand the same thing from "map positioning" but i think cypher uses/gets into positional advantages more than anyone
Interesting how when cypher has the map control on hektik, he never denies the YA, and always guard the railgun instead. When rapha has map control, he always goes to YA, and cypher runs to railgun meanwhile.
he makes his strategy around his combat (weapon selection/dodging), we can't know for sure that he would be bad without his aim though. Since he doesn't have to share that burden (like cooller/rapha)
Cypher is such a badass at combat, he's like deathstroke from DC (comics), able to tag the flash without any superpowers, and kicks batmans ass all the time. Impossible shit man, just such a pleasure to watch in the complete opposite type from rapha/cooller pleasure.
Also, ZSX has good commentating but needs to lighten up a bit and be more fluid/ adlib.
ZSX + Joe would be an adequate replacement for 2gd/joe but needs a bit more humour.
i feel sorry for avek, totally dominating strenx on dm13 and then getting disorientated and falling into lava while thinking hes dropping down to the ledge :/
it's cooller. most people agree that he's the hardest player to hit. rapha said something on the lines of cooller having the best dodging among all the pros.
If anybody with restreaming capabilities is reading this...
Is there a possibility to have a stream \ restream of tomorrow's matches on any other server than own3d? Pls do it if you can. No commentary is needed, no nothing, just a stream that can be watched.
I'm sure that there are others who can't connect to own3d servers, that randomly happens to lots of people, I've heard many such complaints before. And now it's DH, what a bad timing. 11 hours since the beginning of matches, servers still can't be reached by my network or whatever it is that has routing problems with reaching them at the moment. After 11 hours of no progress, I doubt it's going to miraculously get fixed tomorrow. =(
No you're just wrong. To say that Cooller couldn't have done anything different to have won (other than aim better) just shows your own lack of insight into the game.
i read that as "now im warmed up, if we play dm13 again now i would win it - betting 1000 on that"
just the commentators made up that "next map 1000 bet" stuff IMO
He didn't say spam anywhere and I watched the whole thing. He just said he didn't know how he did it. That's just called good instincts, and it's also a skill. He wouldn't have shot right as he was going thru the tele if he didn't think there was a possibility Cooller would be running away in that direction. The followup rail was skill also. Not sure how you could even define it as spam, because he wasn't missing his shots and they were all calculated.
Agreed, it's much fairer than the 2 bo5 system. After all the guy who's coming from LB has already "redeemed" his loss by having to fight through LB, no reason to make the finals near impossible for him
Finally, after 15 hours I can conclude our coverage for today.
VODs are up (most of them at least, some are still processing right now, hopefully all of them will be done in 2-3 hours).
The awesome v00good show is in processing as well, so be sure not to miss those 2 hours of pure entertainment hosted by 2GD, stermy, v00, garpy, slayzah and many others while QL was down.
I hope you have all enjoyed our first day of Dreamhack coverage and I would like to thank those of you who have donated via our website. Much appreciated.
Peace and see you all tomorrow!
ps. Tomorrow there will also be a TDM show-match between an East-European team and fnatic! More details to follow.
GaRpY is one of my fav player ever, he's so cool, i usually hate british people like 2GD etc, but GaRpY is so awesome.
I don't like 2GD cuz he's just like me, a fucking troll, and we are both handsome IRL.
Vo0 lost twice and didn't even manage to win once because he's a cpm player. He got outaimed hard, he's all about movements 0% about aim. Vo0 your aim just suck, do something. I hate you man, really, shame on you. Look, Fox rapped all the cpm players and now Vo0 the cpm master get rapped by some mid tier vq3 player (zsx). Btw, zsx is so beautiful IRL, but i already knew it. He looked so cute & focused when watching the other players play on stream, was lovely (no homo).
Lmao @ noctis & guard online heroes. I would rape them @ 1on1 CA tbh, they seem easy.
If rapha doesn't manage to get 1st (only God knows), then lmao @ America, i'm gonna change my ESR flag again i guess, i thought American were superior humans, and it seems that i was wrong, i'm so pissed now cuzususally i'm never wrong.
gg @ strenx, where are you av3k ? where are you cooller ? Av3k you should stop your fitness practice and concentrate more on your aim, fucking polish badboy (carmac, tox1c & you should just stop stealing our shoes and be more kind with us, because we, western european, are skinny faggots addicted to le amour. The lg is the weapon of le amour you can't do shit against it even if you got very agressive style with RL (hi av3k). Btw cooller, where is your mother now ? Are you sad ? Go drink more vodka, you'll need it to recover from this loss.
people should divide the random called term of trolling more than you obv did there.
a guy like 2gd just mixes his knowledge with provocation, insights, a good amount of weirdness and (the most important part) a lot of creativity. there is nothing bad cause everyone knows his character, assholeness and on the other hand his skill, cause he is a known personality.
what you did here is really the not so smart form of trolling. combining blatant childish flames with all the theoretical bullshit about playstyles and performances like everyone is posting on esr while sitting on your cumsprayed smelling chair.
trying to implement some overused running gags makes you look even more like some random dick.
really boring and also predictable in all points
but was great entertainment by everyone but you,ye
strenx shouted standing up "cooller you own me 1000 euros" while I sat right next to him and told him to calm down. i think the russian mafia thingy occured after the incident.
He's definitely trying his best but he's making so many mistakes that is unbelievable + he's kinda lag, missing importation small moments that changes the game while often talking about something else that has no real meaning.
I mean I watch those games, hear the cast meanwhile and I go wtf, do they actually see what is going on on the screen or not? ;]
nice final
but epic fail, caster did not realize hektik was the final map and cypher did not realize that he was behind in the last seconds (or maybe he forgot the time)
No you don't understand, it was a brilliant move by cypher. By hiding in the last seconds he was trying to confuse rapha into thinking he was behind instead of in front, which would have made him rush in like a noob and cypher would have a easy kill. But sadly cyphers thoughts are too advanced for nearly anyone to understand :<
Yeah I was like wtf, why Cypher isn't chasing when there's 5-10 seconds left? And the worst part is that casters didn't even realize that as well and it was a final map so it all has finished in a bit awkward fashion :C
Congratz, really well earned victory
I always like it when brain>aim
@casting: It was a bit embarrassing that you did not get that rapha has won and mixed up his quote in the beginning. No offense though, but that's your job ;) Rest much appreciated!
Stunning play from Rapha.
Cypher too, but Rapha just has that bit of magic about him all top people do in their field, you can't explain it, he just has it.
It is disgusting how much fear and respect every pro, including cypher gives rapha. Most of the time they don’t even bother challenge for powerups even when they have the stack and position.
I don't think that they even think that they will win when they play him, apart maybe from group stages. The only pros that seem to have the balls for the job are dahang, stermy and cooller.
Before k1llsen crashed cypher everybody had fear for cypher. In contrast everybody knows that rapha is not an aim whore and they will go agressive vs him rather than vs cypher.
But ok "rapha only won because every pro has too much respect" ... keep crying
so true..cypher is afraid of rapha. he never picks up any items when he plays him. i wonder what would happen if he had same confidence and faith in god as rapha.:P
it's like i said before, Rapha is the fucking Batman of quake.
He hangs out with all the super powered aim niggas but can still fuck them up with his planning and strategy. You gotta be fucking insanely smart to hang with these guys, since they are pretty smart too + have insane aim.
Who else could you expect to take down the all mighty Cypher?
He hits every fucking thing with every fucking gun, only stermy/strenx/k1llsen are able to throw off his game with their hitscan AIM and even their top notch aim failed to contain such a beast. Cooller and av3k are similar to cypher in tactics but don't have the aim to contend with cypher at his maximum strength, which is fucking crazy as seen in these tournaments.
But rapha? motherfucker aims worse than me and takes down the monster like hes nothing, fucking badass.
Lots of aim>brain comments but tbh rapha got great aim also, especially his lg and rl. Cypher may outrail him but i say rocketwise they are quite close..
rapha's rockets are excellent, especially on defense.
rapha's lg is good, but in real 1on1 situation with lot of dodging etc = not THAT good.
rapha's rail is good too, but sometimes he still misses some 'not so hard' shots, while people like cypher for example often hit like 4 rails in a row.
keep in mind that when i say "not that good", "not so good", "not so hard" etc i'm comparing with others top tier players, like cypher, k1llsen, stermy, strenx, z4muz etc etc...
Instead of giving excuses like that I think its better to realize that both yesterday and today's games were extremely close.
The score line at the end of the time is only cause cypher ran away with it towards the end. All it takes is a few different events and rapha could have easily taken the match yesterday.
These players are very close and cypher simply got outplayed. No, I don't think cypher is a Quake god - both rapha and cooller are capable of defeating him. K1llsen and strenx are also fairly capable.
btw, why is the prizemoney so skewd. The laptop is worth quite a lot as well... why not just distrubute some money to the top8 or maybe top12 and reduce the 1st prize a bit?
example:
1st 5k + laptop
2nd 3k
3rd 1.5
4th 400
5-6: 200
7-8: 100
This mainly with the idea that some ppl who might get top8 don't actually go to the tourney because they don't see how they can get top3 (maybe guard (although I dunno why he's not there, I thought he qualified))
Rapha's acc on hektik = 19%
Cypher's acc on hektik = 25% (with 58% rg and pretty much better acc than rapha on every weapon)
Yes, hektik is an all aim map, sure.
Still GaRpY was right, it doesn't suit rapha's style. I bet he'd lose more hektik than ztn/t7/dm13 with aim whores. He played excellent in this game nonetheless.
Rapha likes the map..and I think he is one of the best on it at the moment. His first loss on it (in a tournament) was against Cypher in the WB final yesterday.
How do you just forget that time is running out when there is $3k and an expensive laptop on the line? Nice play by rapha, but cypher clearly psyched himself out.
great games!! glad we get to see EVEN MORE NOW!!! will cypher get revenge at this next tourney!?!? everything could be totally different now! back2back tournies = cumsauce.
I'll say this and I know that some of you can relate. Cypher is clearly more talented and atm a
better player than Rapha. But there is somethign to be said for Rapha's mental capacity and killer
instinct. It's like this ability to rise up against adversity and prosper. like Dwyane wade in the 06 finals lol
So how are you deciding that cypher is better? Yeah cypher is very talented, but when rapha has been beating him, and winning the titles, you can't say cypher is better.
"Mental capacity," "killer instinct," etc. all play into how good a player is. If cypher has bad nerves or can't bring his game to a final then he isn't better than rapha.
I would still enjoy it more if they had balls like other players (stermy, cooller, spart1e, dahang). When I see them playing, I don't see any fear. Fear ruins their game and ruins it for some spectators like me. I think it is on their ability and anyones ability to overcome it and take whatever it comes with that.
the thing is, that fear came from first hand experience. He knows what it's like to play against Rapha, and knowing what Rapha is capable of is what does it. Rapha underestimates him one day, admits that "cypher has stepped up his game" and is plenty willing and capable to match it the next time they meet. If that's not a valuable skill in duelling, I don't know what is.
For those wanting the vod's I'll give them two more hours or I'll upload myself given I could have had them up within 30 minutes of it finishing at a whopping 0.47 mb/s.
a lot of the fun came from literally watching everything cause the whole coverage/streaming had a great atmosphere, on both lvl and stermy tv btw. really a bad event to miss :(
check the demo/movie thread about dh for good games
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