goes out to buy q4

shattering news for what's left of the 17 players

Hope someon except me will be playing

:) Nice news
Hope i find some time this month!

Is the 60 FPS lock... unlocked? Allowing 120 FPS with 120 Hz smooth gameplay? :)

It's locked to whatever the server has as the max FPS. Our stock configs are set to 90.

So, if the server settings allow 120 / 125 FPS only, I can get a smooth experience? That´s still a drawback in Q4 games and mods :/

We've found that gameplay is still pretty smooth and fluid in 90 fps in the mod. Might was to give it a try first. A lot of it is dependent on the server equipment as well.

The problem is, that if I don´t have 120 FPS, synched to my 120Hz display, it´s... getting ugly :/

Great looking mod anyway :)

yeah you can have 125fps

Actually, Q4 runs at 90hz/90fps since 1.4 which syncs better with 120hz due to it being of the same multiplyer, meaning that Q4 at 90fps will feel smoother than Q3 at 125/120 =P

following the same flawed logic -> 30fps @ 120hz is bbqawesomesauce.

That's just being imprudent.

Won't download untill I hear shadowmaster155's opinion on it.


What with him being the best Q4 player around

Me too, and I also want an in-depth analysis of this mod by p0rt.

weapon change is awesome

the hole changelog is awesome. ID should look up to changelogs like this one

Aw hellz yeah!

"Possibility to use % and ” in chat (Special Characters)"

\o/

hate to sound like a noob and all, but, how do I spawn a local server? Like, just to hop around a map and check out settings without actually joining an online match.

In console, "SpawnServer mp/q4ctf2" or whatever map name you want

I don't get it, why do you put so much efforts on a mod like this for a game that is pretty much dead and won't ever come back in competitions? What is the point if it doesn't get played?

I might be wrong but it just seems to be a giant waste of time to me. It's a shame I would have probably liked it a lot a few years back as there are some quite nice features.

not first hand knowledge, but some devs are pretty commited to flogging the dead horse until they break a leg. I can think of a few mods for absolutely dead games. Maybe total of 10 games will be played, and hundreds of hours of work and unmeasurable talet will undoubtedly go to waste

Isn't modding like getting an education and building a CV or something? Q4 is a big name even if no one is playing it ;)

i dont get it since when people dont put effort in how they act and look anymore, whats the point of being around then

i might be wrong but it might be a giant waste of time for you..

Looks like you missed the point entirely.

i never missed one point, at one point you should realize to shut down your cocksized head

Proved what I thought, thanks.

right back at ya !! >_< ..

Different things are dead to different people. A kid who plays football probably thinks the same about you. Its all about perception.

No it's not.

Who cares what's outside that bubble thinks. He is a quake player and he should easily recognize which quakes are dead and which one is not.

I'm sad to see he puts so much efforts into this (which would have been actually awesome at the proper time) when he could have done something else on the same awesomeness level for the community. That's a true waste, really.

Well, what could he have done? The only Quakes that are some kind of alive are Quake World and Quake Live.

Quake World allready has everything it needs since it is played and developed on since 1996.

Quake Live is a closed system where you can't do anything beside maps atm. He would have to actually be hired by id Software to do something in QL but then he could not do anything he wanted cuz he would get restrictions by id Soft.

But I think the answer to your question is much more simple:

He likes Quake 4 and wants to make it a better game. Even if he was the only one to play it, he probably would still make this mod because he likes the game and for him it's not waste of time since he does something he likes. For some people playing video games looks like a huge waste of time still pretty much everyone of us (the people who browse this site) spend hours on playing video games and we don't regret it since it gives us pleasure and we like doing it.

I will reinstall Quake 4 as soon as possible simply to try the mod out.

:'( beautiful.

WTFproof makes a good point, what game could he have modded that wouldn't have been a "huge waste of time" with QL being closed?

Yes it's true. Still looks like a waste though. Wish it was made years earlier.

Hey Winz,

Stop being such a french pussy.

Thanks

/afk

Erm.. fuck off douchebag.

i'm no fan of winz, but he's pretty much right this time

come play

kg, please tell me how I go about modding QuakeLive? Please supply me with the SDK to add features I want to see in QuakeLive. Please let me run my own QuakeLive server so that when I have people over, we can play on 0 ping. Please contact SyncError to have him give me the possibility of adding cpm gameplay and physics to QuakeLive.
...
You can't give me those things? Why not?

Edit: Yes we did. Changed to ask kg the same thing.

We already discussed about this didn't we?

This mod looks amazing. It has everything I miss in QL. Now we only need to convince the ppl to quit QL and switch to GTR.

have you tried militia ?

does someone know why I can't instal q4 on a W7 64bit!?
can't find anything usefull @ google :/

be sure to right click run as admin on pretty much everything you run for quake4

Looks awesome! Too bad I don't have my Q4 cd with me.

So far we are very happy with the release. Lots of people are playing and giving feedback on the mod. We have our fair share of bugs and a couple more always seem to pop up after we solve a few, but overall we are very happy with the release. We plan on making another update as soon as we can to address some of the more prominent bugs.

not sure if serious

Maybe I actually have motivation to map for Q4 now. I`ve been wanting to do so but was reluctant due to it`s low activity. Surprised people still support it, which is nice.

EDIT: Okay, I`m having issues running this. I followed the instructions and extracted it in my Q4 directory (and not in baseq4), then ran the mod through a shortcut with -set fs_game gtr, and it will load for a little bit, then it exits to Windows with the error "Error during initialization". If I load it through the Mods menu in vq4 it also crashes. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

EmeraldTiger, use the gtr_local.bat file we included to run the mod.

I tried using that too, but it still doesn`t work, unfortunately.

Message me on IRC

Why now and not right after it was announced? 3 years too late.

Several reason for it but mainly due to developers not having time, prioritizing real life and getting tired of development. Number of devs went from 1 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 2 and it was a massive project from the start. Much have been "removed" to get it to a point where it was doable.

Since we've started to mess around with several aspects of the game that none did before it was bound to bring up issues that needed to be addressed. If we would stick only to do the mod and not do mapping as well, you'd have a mod but nothing new to play it on.

Ok, fair enough. Is Bandit still on board?

nope, he left around 2 years ago

Too bad, he was the one powering it up that days.

Yeah when he left I took over. It's gone both up and down. Now the dev team consists of me, mnemjc and nineX , where we get some help now and then from the other members of the team. It's a great deal of team effort put into getting it to where we are today. We couldn't have done it without all the help we credit here

wish this had a community, need to find my q4 cd

I already played some gtr pickups. It's a great mod. hopefully we will get more people to play it soon.

The plan is to work with the mod and do more things to it, fix bugs but also get more in touch with the players and what they want. The feedback on what is missing, what needs to be altered and things that is wrong is constantly getting looked at. The idea is meet the player on a level where both will get a benefit of the game and still make it doable to add new features :)

almost makes me want to install this POS game. please, is it really worth it? anyone?

GPM :E

:E

Have you actually managed to perform any doublejump? This page on the official site says they are possible.

they are there and working, but due to the different stairs they don't work like in cpm and they are less powerful

What's different about stairs? You described them exactly the same as in Q3.

I didn't describe them at all.
What's different is, that in Q3, after you jump, you sort of get pulled down and can (or have to) jump again and again very quickly in order not to get "sticked" to the stairs, which let's you do doublejumps properly. In Q4 you sort of sink in into the stairs and can't jump twice (or more often) in a row like you can in Q3.

Oh, sorry for my inattention, I confused you with zhakal. He had described stairs some comments above.

Thank you for the explanation. That all means some important CPM tricks are impossible in GPM now.

the best example to get what he's saying is trying to do the stairs to MH entrance on Used and Abused. While not a perfect 1:1 scale, it's still a bit harder to make it all the way across than it is in CPM.

(a bit harder= I can't do it at all yet :P )

wut.

I see you're not even actually trying to get from the stairs to the MH room, you're just trying to mimic your hand movements identically from Q3 cpm to Q3 gtr. If you actually wanted to, you'd get across just fine I suspect.

edited for clarity.

post a demo\vid\jpg\txt\whatever of proper-sj-to-mh on cpm3a(sorry gpm2) or atleast to RL or GTFO.

Stairjump is not yet built into GPM as of the .70 build. Though they are not yet implemented in the mod yet, we still give the player the possibility of making the maneuver using the ramps on the sides of the stairs. When EKSelenc and I spoke before the release, I told him everything that would and wouldn't be shared between CPM and GPM in the original release. Guess he failed to tell the rest of Motherland.

In addition, GPM will not be a complete 1:1 replica of CPM. I will try to include as many of the wanted features as possible, but in the meantime, I hope that everyone will be patient and enjoy the mod.

>GameType Pro Mode
>A tribute to the CPM gametype. It has movement and gameplay similar to CPM from Quake 3, including air control and tiered armor.

Just put: vq4 movement with aircontrol(not similar to cpm) and pseudo-dj on ramps and stairs atm

you're right. I didn't realize some people were led to believe that it was a CPM replica. They also did NOT remove crouchsliding. I wanted the best of both worlds between cpm and q4. (air control/slides) not just CPM for q4. I already have cpm.

edit: to GTR team, please don't actually remove crouchsliding in an attempt to appease the CPM faggots.

We aren't going to remove crouchslide, because its what makes Q4 unique plus its not that bad gameplay wise as some people make it out to be.

And that CPM reference should've never been made, in my opinion.

My vision about what GPM should be is a new unique gameplay where the only thing it has in common with CPM is.. that both are different from their vanilla origins.

Edit:
GPM is currently heavily WIP as we don't have the manpower to bring all these features into the game, so instead of delaying the release until Duke Nukem hits the shelves, we decided to release it.

I get the diplomatic approach of where you're coming from, but if I was asked to describe it to someone that knew nothing about it but was familiar with Q3 mods then you can bet I'd mention CPM in there. Between the fast weapon switch, tiered armor and air control, it's most certainly not a misnomer. It's not "CPM movement" but it never claimed to be, it says "movement and gameplay SIMILAR to cpm" which is true. If it said "movement and gameplay that is IDENTICAL to cpm" then these trolls would have a point, but it doesn't so they don't.

I agree with you, still the "tribute to CPM" and "SIMILAR TO CPM" claims are a bit misleading.
But yeah, just me nitpicking ;)

sigh

Here's what I meant by "if you actually wanted to get to MH from stairs I'm sure you could np"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5nvJ-YAuC8

I actually jump from about the same spot I do in CPM, so to me there's almost no difference at all.

this is just a ramp jump with aircontroling to mh. not a single trace of sj.
i found this trick after 30secs of playing as well.

this is just a jump from the stairs next to lg/ya to mh/gl room.

If you had to play on .pk3 maps in GTR you'd have a point. But you don't. There's no threat of ever playing an actual Q3 map in Q4, only remakes, so your concerns are not an issue.

You know what? CPM started by combining some of the movement style of Quakeworld with the movement in Quake 3. Obviously a lot of Quake 3 is incorporated, instead of being identical to Quakeworld in every way.

I could make a movie about some Aerowalk movement from Quakeworld and then show how it's not possible in CPM, even though CPM originally claimed to incorporate "quakeworld-like movement".

Instead I learned to enjoy CPM. I still play it, too. I also still play Quakeworld. I don't expect any of these to replace the other.

geez. loak at your own video. u jump from a ramp on the left side of stair, not from stair.
and don't give me that "u never played this" stuff. i played all quakes, wsw and shit.

>even though CPM originally claimed to incorporate "quakeworld-like movement
lmao. even a blind man can c that qw-aircontrol has much more freedom than cpma's one.

My point is that you complaining about GPM sounds to me the same as the Quakeworlders did when they were complaining about CPM. And yet here you are, obviously enjoying CPM. And here I am, enjoying all of them.
Yes, even a blind man can see that CPM and QW are 2 totally different games. But obviously the movement changes were inspired by QW and the CPMA dev team put it to good use.

The GTR team is putting in the same effort to bring new things to Q4 that the CPMA team did for Q3. Is CPM exactly like Quakeworld? You agree, the answer is no. But is it great and fun? Yes. Was it inspired by Quakeworld? Yes.

Is GPM exactly like CPM? Again, the answer is no, but I think it's great and fun. Was it inspired by CPM? Yes.

edited: spelling

i'm not complaining at all. my point is that gpm is quake4-like gameplay with aircontrol (which looks more like cpmaircontrol than qw's, but not similar), but it's not cpm-like gameplay.

Right. Air control, fast weapon switch and tiered armor are about all they have in common.

Coincidentally those are the same things that CPM brought to vQ3, so in this way, it's an awful lot like CPM.

But you're right, it's not the exact same.

Can you repeat this without a prejump, starting from the stairs, not from the next room? We always do that in CPM to surprise an enemy holding MH by a sudden attack.

Obviously he doesn't have to, since "you trolls" don't have a clue and that guy just posted a useful ramp-jump video proving that he has.
tl, dr: fick dich Nitrous Team member, noone cares about your sayings on physics.

He doesn't have to, but it would be nice to find out if it is possible. However, it won't follow that it's impracticable from the fact he can't perform this trick. Enjoy the wonders of formal logic.

Stairjumps is a bit different due to stairs in Q4 isn't clipped as ramps but are actually as they look... stairs.. This is done to be able to crouch slide properly and not doing many minor falls down the "stairs" due to them being one ramp. This is a mappers choice and not the game itself. Policy for Q4 mappers have been this way since mid 2006-2007 as the complains about dumb unlogical clipping was more annoying then anything else.

The teleport is done the way due to it having some bugs atm to get it to input = output but centered view. So atm it's standard Q4 which is a given push in teleport exit angle, yeah it's not as we intentionally wanted it but will be addressed.

In all classic Q3 gameplays you also have constant speed directly in teleport exit angle, but you can turn or accelerate after you exit. The real problem of GPM telejump as seen on the video is the fact that the player can't do a doublejump from the teleport.

Moreover, in CPMA stairs on cpm3a are actually stairs too and they are not clipped as ramps. The Q3 stairjumps on the video are definitely doublejumps and are not any kind of rampjumps or even connected with ramps in any way.

This made my early-morning.

is the gtr logo supposed to look like goatse? this is all just a really elaborate troll.

i think some online tourney would be nice maybe other people gonna see how it looks like and other peaople would play this game

We have been working on fixing a couple issues in the mod, but plan on running tournaments for both EU and US soon.

As a CPMer i must say kuso's comparison on GPM and CPM did make me laugh, however not because of the mod itself, just the sarcasm in it was brilliant in my eyes. Quake 4, however never appealed to me and was a utter trainwreck, it had worse gameplay and much too high requirements to game such as that (LOL SHIT COMPUTER!) . Regardless i wish you good luck with this mod, who knows, maybe it gets popular and uscpm turns to usgpm.

Question is it normal that my screen looks like this?

http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/6342/shot00001rk.jpg

no :o

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1720/shot00002nl.jpg

Sick graphics, brah.

Looks kinda like just vertexlight to me

Where do I turn it off in GTR cuz I can't find lightning options :/?

r_forceambient 0.4

and adjust r_lightscale

AHAHAH all interesting ideas, but not right. Disable Simple Interaction. Should be back to normal.

Yes allready solved that problem but now my crosshair is gone :/.

seta g_crosshairCustomFile "gfx/guis/crosshairs/crosshair_blaster.tga"
seta g_crosshairBlink "1"
seta g_crosshairCustomName "q3_2"
seta g_crosshairCustom "0"
seta g_crosshairColor "255 1 1"
seta g_crosshairSize "32"
seta g_showHud "1"

Out of interest, what gfx card are you using, and what drivers?

Nvidia GeForce 9600GT 512MB GDDR3 with up to date drivers.

What OS?

Windows XP Professional

It's the simple interactions shader which we made to make it even faster on low end specs when playing with ambient only :) You see pretty clearly what it does when you have lights turned on. IMO not a bug but a choice made to get more performance. Different actions on a shader can make graphics different but also optimize the overall performance on things.

Still the normal shader we use have some tweaks to it, most noticeable is the ambient fix provided by rebb. No more hard shadows in ambient.

http://www.diabz.co.uk/shot00003.jpg

Problem with crosshair still here, suggestions anyone?

put a piece of tape in the center of your monitor

Now a tip for you, get a rope from your local hobby-store (they are rather cheap but take a thick one) and string yourself up on the next tree :).

pro tip: shove a butchers knife up your ass and twist it.

stupid fucking cunt

jesus rofl

Try enabling "use custom crosshair' in 'X-hair' section of HUD setup and then selecting the CH from the list below.

seta g_crosshairCustom "1" should get your crosshair :)

As this main release post get pushed off the front-page, people should post any comments or problems, or ask questions in the Quake 4 forum thread for it.

i feel like i'm in 2006, unwrapped a brand new q4 box and am installing it via 4 CD's

you would want Q43A for that http://www.moddb.com/mods/q43a/downloads

elaborate!