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Drawgun (121 comments)

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Posted by bmes_ @ 19:37 CST, 19 February 2012 - iMsg

To drawgun, or to not drawgun, that is the question.

Say if you do / don't, and why

thanks

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<< Comment #1 @ 19:45 CST, 19 February 2012 >>

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melechesh '

drawgun 0/2

drawgun 1 just makes it look like CS or UT, it's impure.

<< Comment #12 @ 00:14 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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36761 - Reply to #1

drawgun 1 is the default setting. if anything, CS/UT tries to look like quake :x

<< Comment #23 @ 02:18 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #12

ITS THE FUCKING BOBBING

FUCK BOBBING

<< Comment #32 @ 07:37 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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zealot - Reply to #12

Registered: 12 Sep 2011

<< Comment #71 @ 18:21 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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36761 - Reply to #32

Registered: 11 Feb 2002

lol hows it feel to have wasted 10+years of your life accomplishing absolutely nothing

<< Comment #80 @ 09:38 CST, 21 February 2012 >>

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zealot - Reply to #71

ye, i'm sure what i accomplished in the last 10 years of my life can be seen on this site :D

<< Comment #114 @ 11:33 CST, 3 March 2012 >>

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026 - Reply to #71

Time you enjoyed wasting, was not wasted. - John Lennon

<< Comment #66 @ 17:25 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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WTFProoF?! - Reply to #1

You play UT with Gun enabled??? noob...

<< Comment #73 @ 18:30 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #66

I don't play UT.

<< Comment #119 @ 12:44 CST, 9 March 2012 >>

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mcdaddysandwich - Reply to #66

You play UT ~~with Gun enabled~~??? noob...

<< Comment #120 @ 15:07 CST, 9 March 2012 >>

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WTFProoF?! - Reply to #119

From time to time, but not too often so ye I'm noob in that awesome game ;)

<< Comment #2 @ 19:55 CST, 19 February 2012 >>

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aeoL

I find it a necessity to use drawgun 2 and a high fov for rockets and plasma. I also use cg_gunx to make it longer to help my rocket aim. all my other weapons have no drawgun.

<< Comment #18 @ 01:19 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #2

Yeah same here. My RL looks like long thin dick with 110 fov :)

Edited by mefajpE^ at 01:23 CST, 20 February 2012

<< Comment #21 @ 01:42 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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aeoL - Reply to #18

Heh, same fov for me too :X

If u do that with a railgun it looks like a long thin dildo

<< Comment #3 @ 19:55 CST, 19 February 2012 >>

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34338

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<< Comment #5 @ 20:05 CST, 19 February 2012 >>

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Dynamix - Reply to #3

cg_muzzleflash 0 I think.

<< Comment #34 @ 07:56 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Leth4L - Reply to #5

Yes, that's it.

<< Comment #41 @ 09:04 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #3

there is also some third-party software for removing the walls too, if they also annoy you

bad-dum-tssss!

<< Comment #42 @ 09:12 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Leth4L - Reply to #41

It's called skill, bro.

<< Comment #84 @ 01:43 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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nex1 : - Reply to #42

sure, sure, we all know it's impossible to cheat in quake live

<< Comment #4 @ 19:59 CST, 19 February 2012 >>

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dsN

drawgun on, cg_gunx -5 to hide it. that way the muzzle flashes and lg beam are nice and small and out of the way

<< Comment #39 @ 08:48 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Jalle - Reply to #4

cg_muzzleflash 0. EZ

<< Comment #6 @ 20:38 CST, 19 February 2012 >>

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annihiluzz

drawgun 1 ftw

<< Comment #7 @ 21:31 CST, 19 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge '

i dont understand why you might want to have a portion of your screen blocked with a totally useless moving object

<< Comment #8 @ 21:54 CST, 19 February 2012 >>

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aeoL - Reply to #7

Well for me personally it does get in the way for most weapons but for rockets I aim using the rocket launcher itself.

<< Comment #9 @ 22:03 CST, 19 February 2012 >>

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EmeraldTiger - Reply to #7

Also some people find it easy to forget which weapon they're holding, especially in the midst of combat.

<< Comment #10 @ 22:09 CST, 19 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #9

there is an icon for that, i believe. yet, I think I don't recall ever 'forgetting' because I just select I need for a given situation/combo at the time that I need it, including in anticipation of needing it.

<< Comment #15 @ 00:24 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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36761 - Reply to #10

for me, drawgun 0 feels like somethings missing on my screen since ive been playing with drawgun 1 for years now. not saying that i couldnt just as easily replace the drawgun 1 with the icons and get used to playing with drawgun 0 if i had too, but because drawgun 1 has been the default setting and part of my q3/QL configuration for so long, its just what i've become accustomed to over the years. so it all boils down to what the person is comfortable with and how their hud/setup is.

<< Comment #16 @ 00:53 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #15

everything always boils down to that. doesn't mean it makes the most sense. if you try without it for a week, you will just get used to it and have a better view.

Edited by Demiurge at 00:53 CST, 20 February 2012

<< Comment #17 @ 01:04 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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36761 - Reply to #16

or if you try with drawgun 1 for a week, you will just get used to it and have a better view.

what makes your view better than mine? nothing, just a personal preference.

<< Comment #26 @ 03:41 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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maltyplaya - Reply to #17

No, he would have a worse view because of the gun blocking part of the screen.

<< Comment #45 @ 09:27 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #17

also Pythagoras. good luck in school.

<< Comment #22 @ 02:18 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #16

in q3 I could play with drawgun 0 perfectly, however my brain just can't grasp the whole concept of weapon changing now :(

<< Comment #85 @ 01:47 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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nex1 : - Reply to #16

So, i will tell you a thing that will completely shock you: many pro players uses drawgun 1, adjusted with gunx,y,z,......
Are you going crazy now?

<< Comment #89 @ 02:41 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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maltyplaya - Reply to #85

Most don't though.

<< Comment #101 @ 09:32 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #85

why would I be shocked? an why would I be going crazy??

<< Comment #30 @ 06:02 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #7

i wonder why u like to watch floor with ur unblocked screen :S

<< Comment #46 @ 09:35 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #30

have you ever played ZTN? :)

<< Comment #48 @ 10:09 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #46

yes, but what does it have in common?

<< Comment #49 @ 10:31 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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palatka - Reply to #48

I DONT KNOW. VERTICAL ASPECT?

<< Comment #50 @ 10:32 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #48

floors that end and abrupt downward views???

<< Comment #55 @ 14:10 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #50

hmm... i usually look down, just in case theres enemy there, so i can shoot him instantly...

im doing it wrong?

<< Comment #56 @ 14:31 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #55

no, you're doing absolutely right. the best thing is fov 1, that way you can see everything by just looking at it.

<< Comment #57 @ 14:41 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #56

now ur just making things up... i didnt even mention fov?

Edited by Ozymandiass at 14:41 CST, 20 February 2012

<< Comment #58 @ 14:46 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #57

you don't understand what an object obscuring part of a screen has to do with fov?

<< Comment #59 @ 14:54 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #58

i dont understand why u jump out with fov, when we're talking about weapon model...

and i can see a connection, but its irrevalant

Edited by Ozymandiass at 14:58 CST, 20 February 2012

<< Comment #60 @ 15:44 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #59

um, what? do you see the fact that your FOV is limited by the gun or not?

<< Comment #62 @ 16:23 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #60

its not as weapon model is in blank point anyway...

<< Comment #63 @ 16:28 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #62

i'm not sure what you're trying to say. a weapon model takes up a substantial screen area, not a point.

<< Comment #65 @ 17:11 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #63

you do not need to know what in this "substantial screen area" ...

cause either its floor, or ur already watching down...

<< Comment #67 @ 17:34 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #65

so, basically, FOV is not important?

<< Comment #68 @ 17:47 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #67

do u watch all 4 corners of ur screen?

<< Comment #74 @ 18:32 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #68

no, of course not, I don't even look in the direction of my screen. so it's settled, 'cg_fov 1' is the best?

<< Comment #77 @ 04:17 CST, 21 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #74

maybe for you, i'll keep playing with 90 fov

<< Comment #82 @ 09:51 CST, 21 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #77

why not 'cg_fov 1'? can't you just look whether you want?

<< Comment #92 @ 04:17 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #82

you mess up overall awarness, with not being able to see the place on screen that basiclly a blind spot anyway...

<< Comment #103 @ 09:34 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #92

it's not a "blind spot", its smack in the middle...
oh wait, it IS a BLINDING spot, because it BLINDS you from what is behind it, like enemies one level below and shit you can be AWARE of. So yeah, "awareness" or whatever other way you can describe the advantage of FOV applies exactly the same way to drawgun.

Edited by Demiurge at 09:39 CST, 22 February 2012

<< Comment #105 @ 10:30 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #103

whats behind weapon model? floor... i dont need to watch floor

<< Comment #106 @ 11:18 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #105

hehe are you for real? sure, let's pretend we didn't cover this just two posts above and that you can't read. did you catch this part in my post?

one level below

tell me, do floors ever end in quake? have you ever played ztn, aerowalk, hektik... anything? can there be anything else behind your weapon model other than the floor?

Edited by Demiurge at 11:26 CST, 22 February 2012

<< Comment #107 @ 13:03 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #106

yeah it can... another floor, but lower than the first one... still it doesnt justify hidding weaponmodel

<< Comment #108 @ 13:10 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #107

yes, good point! a floor doesn't justify not having a weapon model. so there can't be anything other than a floor behind it, on the lower level, on ztn? nothing?

<< Comment #109 @ 13:24 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #108

erm... more floor?

srsly, during my one year quake experiance + 5-6 years long of playing ET i never was in situation when weapon model was covering enemy model

<< Comment #110 @ 13:49 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #109

Edited by Demiurge at 13:49 CST, 22 February 2012

<< Comment #111 @ 13:51 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #110

so, ur trying to fix ur problems with positioning/ knowledge where ur enemy is by removing weapon model?

<< Comment #112 @ 13:57 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #111

holy shitcakes, you're right! how foolish of me! that's a brilliant point!!!
I should position myself not in the most advantageous way for the game and awareness, but so that my super essential gun model is most comfortable! I see the light now! thank you, this argument has been most enlightening. :D

Edited by Demiurge at 13:58 CST, 22 February 2012

<< Comment #121 @ 04:34 CST, 10 March 2012 >>

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dansen - Reply to #110

i will only watch if you make an .swf out of that, with snowflakes and music, and put your name on the bottom right, with paint

<< Comment #122 @ 05:43 CST, 10 March 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #121

Fuck, I don't have the stamina or the pro 3d software to do that.

<< Comment #81 @ 09:45 CST, 21 February 2012 >>

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melechesh ' - Reply to #63

it's not substantial, at least with FOV 120

<< Comment #90 @ 02:44 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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maltyplaya - Reply to #59

He is saying if you hide the gun model, you might see an enemy that would otherwise be obscured -without- having to look towards them first.

<< Comment #91 @ 04:15 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #90

i understand his point, but i find it silly, cause drawgun 0 generates problems that are much worse than not being able to see part of ur screen :-)

<< Comment #95 @ 05:13 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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horf - Reply to #91

like what?

<< Comment #98 @ 08:20 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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maltyplaya - Reply to #95

I think he means mistaking which gun you have out which is fair enough. I have got used to the icons in Quake but I have had this happen to me in other games.

<< Comment #104 @ 09:42 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #91

silly? is evolution silly? we have evolved to specifically spot and react to moving objects on the screen. the gun is either not moving, in which case it is TOTALLY useless, or is moving, in which case it is making you react slower.

<< Comment #86 @ 01:51 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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nex1 : - Reply to #58

What about pro's using drawgun 1? are they totally noob, or do they know somethings you don't want to understand? (sorry, i mistaked, i mean drawgun 2...... sorry)

Edited by nex1 at 02:26 CST, 23 February 2012

<< Comment #99 @ 08:21 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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maltyplaya - Reply to #86

The sway of the gun is dependent on your UPS. That could have something to do with it.

<< Comment #102 @ 09:33 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #86

are those the only two choices??? OH MY WHAT AM I GONNA PICK

<< Comment #11 @ 00:12 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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36761

drawgun 1.

dont know why, just used to it i guess. with drawgun 0 i sometimes forget what weap im using

<< Comment #13 @ 00:15 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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0x5f3759df

i've found no evidence that it has any effect on playing, it's just a preference thing.

i like drawgun 1

<< Comment #87 @ 01:54 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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nex1 : - Reply to #13

it's not only a preference thing, like almost all the others "preference things" in quake;
it has its pros and cons, that have been already explained above, only the preference of what you think is best for you matters.

<< Comment #14 @ 00:19 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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cerb0z

It's just more fun with drawgun for some reason :)

<< Comment #19 @ 01:29 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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mefajpE^

From my experience, and I've been messing with my config for few years changing something every now and then, my aim mostly depends on:
-crosshair shape/type
-crosshair blink 0/1
-drawgun 0/2
-gun_xyz

..and obvioulsy huge part has gfx and mouse settings you're using. Messing with those setting always gives me different results, maybe it's a placebo thing, but at least by changing few things here and there I don't get bored by the game itself.

Been playing with drawgun 2 for two years or so, but now I just use it for RL, somehow I think I aim better with it. But yeah, it's more fun to play with drawgun 1/2 overall :}

<< Comment #20 @ 01:30 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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JS3>*

drawgun 1

<< Comment #24 @ 02:33 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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tbone

drawgun 2
fov 90
gun moved into the center

The reason is because it just looks cool.

<< Comment #115 @ 17:03 CST, 8 March 2012 >>

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Kayzah - Reply to #24

Tried that today, too but I failed .___.
Could you pls post your cvars? When I'm centering guns, they just change position to the left or right when I'm firing ^____^
Really don't know what I'm doing wrong and a bit too lazy for try&error..

Usually I'm playing with drawgun 0 though.

<< Comment #116 @ 03:58 CST, 9 March 2012 >>

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tbone - Reply to #115

// WEAPON SETTINGS
// _______________
set cg_drawgun "2"
set cg_gunx "10"
set cg_guny "2"
set cg_gunz "-8"
set cg_newweaponbar "0"
set cg_switchonempty "0"
set cg_autoswitch "0"
set cg_oldrail "1"
set cg_oldplasma "0"
set cg_oldrocket "0"
set cg_truelightning "0.9"

<< Comment #117 @ 03:59 CST, 9 March 2012 >>

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tbone - Reply to #115

It is still to the side, but close to the center. It looks right if that makes sense.

<< Comment #118 @ 12:33 CST, 9 March 2012 >>

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Kayzah - Reply to #117

Thank you for that ^____^
Now it works fine for me.

<< Comment #25 @ 02:39 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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ischju

drawgun 2 obviously because of thinshaft settings. drawgun 2 only for rocket / plasma / shotgun if it helps you aim, really. other than that, id not enable it.

fyi: drawgun 0 all the way (except shaft due to thinshaft effect but we covered that).

<< Comment #27 @ 04:24 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Memento_Mori '

I use drawgun 2, fov 90, and fix the guns positions. Some in the center, some on the default.
http://pastebin.com/tudm5EAg

I tried to play without the gun, but eventually, once every x matches I would fuck up a clutch situation because I had no ammo, tried to switch, did not realized it did not switch, and end up getting into troubles.

The weapon bar on the side is no way as obvious than the gun. About the gun wasting screen space, I never felt it was a problem. I wonder if those saying otherwise really had in game problems, or are just playing smart with the argumentation.

Edited by Memento_Mori at 04:26 CST, 20 February 2012

<< Comment #28 @ 05:47 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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HamstaHue - Reply to #27

Just put the weapon bar in the middle? You're never going to "notice" blocked screen space, but there's a chance of it blocking view of enemy/item below you. It's not going to make a huge difference but of course there's some difference.

Edited by HamstaHue at 05:47 CST, 20 February 2012

<< Comment #29 @ 05:58 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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HamstaHue

off topic: have they changed something with how the UI works? I hadn't played in a while and now the scores in team don't show in the right place. I'm using someone else's hud cfg so I haven't really looked at how it works.

<< Comment #33 @ 07:46 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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T1E ' - Reply to #29

yes

<< Comment #31 @ 06:42 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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thuNDa

cg_drawgun 0 on rail and LG, and cg_drawgun 2 with cg_gunZ -5 on the rest but pummel(gunZ 0).
fov 95

<< Comment #35 @ 08:03 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Leth4L

ArrW played with high fov, high graphs, drawgun 0 and small crosshair. He never edited his config, nor did he zoom. But he did alright.

<< Comment #36 @ 08:10 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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mefajpE^ - Reply to #35

Brother's genes prolly.

<< Comment #37 @ 08:16 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Leth4L - Reply to #36

Alexander was a config nerd though.

<< Comment #43 @ 09:18 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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gl00my - Reply to #35

Arrw played most of his glory days with fov 95-100 and pic 5. The high fov cfg was an early one.

<< Comment #44 @ 09:20 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Leth4L - Reply to #43

I stand corrected. Did he use zoom or weapon specific configuration?

<< Comment #38 @ 08:18 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Ffleri

IMO decision to drawgun 0 or 2 (1 isn't even counted cause it's shit) should base on personal preferences only.

Some time ago I was playing on 'cg_drawgun 2' for LG only, then I switched to drawgun 2 for every gun. I was playing like this for a while but then I decided to turn off drawgun on LG (with cg_lightningstyle 5 - biggest lightning possible) and I'm playing on this set for something like 2 years now - drawgun 2 on every gun except LG.

Also I think 'drawgun 0' would have been good not only for LG but for RG too. I'm just used now to RG drawgun 2 and I won't change it only because of that.

<< Comment #40 @ 08:48 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Leth4L - Reply to #38

+'ed

There is no such thing as optimal sense, optimal fov or optimal drawgun.

<< Comment #52 @ 11:13 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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palatka - Reply to #40

well thats oversimplyfied and stupid

and btw, you didnt + him

Edited by darkhenke at 11:13 CST, 20 February 2012

<< Comment #83 @ 09:55 CST, 21 February 2012 >>

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Leth4L - Reply to #52

Now I have, thanks for pointing that out :D Looked kinda douchy :D

<< Comment #47 @ 09:41 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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ins '

i've actually used both and it's the same to me :|

<< Comment #51 @ 10:39 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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zkyp

lmao@drawgun in 2012

<< Comment #53 @ 11:20 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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cerb0z - Reply to #51

@ drawgun 0 you mean? cos it's sooo 2000!

<< Comment #54 @ 13:13 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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zkyp - Reply to #53

<< Comment #61 @ 16:00 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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caesar_

dg 2

<< Comment #64 @ 16:33 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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malk_

I used to play with 0 because of the annoying bobbing, until I found out about drawgun 2. Since then I hava a centered weapon. Just because it looks cool and adds atmosphere. Didn't affect my gameplay at all.

<< Comment #69 @ 18:17 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Nukm

surprised how many people use drawgun 2, i though like 90% would play with 0

<< Comment #70 @ 18:19 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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36761 - Reply to #69

im pretty sure most people in QL are using drawgun 1 since its the default setting and it hardly affects your gameplay.

<< Comment #75 @ 19:04 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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Nukm - Reply to #70

well ok for the whole ql population that might be true, i meant experienced players

<< Comment #76 @ 03:59 CST, 21 February 2012 >>

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HamstaHue - Reply to #69

technically I use drawgun 2, although it's offset so I can't see it :)

<< Comment #72 @ 18:29 CST, 20 February 2012 >>

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toggl

2 for rl/plasma, 0 for rest

<< Comment #78 @ 08:15 CST, 21 February 2012 >>

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SenT!neL

drawgun 0 for rail and lg, drawgun 2 for the rest

<< Comment #79 @ 08:16 CST, 21 February 2012 >>

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T1E '

centered, lowered drawgun 2
it's ok I guess, pg and gl look awesome

<< Comment #88 @ 02:27 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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36450

drawgun 0 is so pro

<< Comment #93 @ 04:27 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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eh - Reply to #88

Don't forget to crouch while jumping!

<< Comment #113 @ 17:52 CST, 23 February 2012 >>

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gienon - Reply to #93

Check and check.

Edited by gienek_ at 17:52 CST, 23 February 2012

<< Comment #94 @ 04:54 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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Rothaarig3

in Quake4 iFT i was used to have drawgun 0 and just a dot as crosshair, the screen looks quite clearer without the big gun.
it is just a confirm what weapon u have right now, if u know it for sure ... then u can try drawgun 0

<< Comment #96 @ 05:20 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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ax!on

I am used to weaponmodel off in ut. That's why I drawgun 0 in ql.

<< Comment #97 @ 06:18 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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Raist

i just started using drawgun 2 for rg, for some reason I "respect" the weapon more and aim more patiently with it :D

rest is 0

<< Comment #100 @ 09:17 CST, 22 February 2012 >>

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Freiya

The best is whatever you feel comfortable.

For me, it's 1 with nobob, because based on some unidentified reason, I strafe a bit better like that (and the feeling of fragging is cooler - and I love to see the barrel of the RL :) ).

It would be nice, if you could set opacity for it like in QW though.

Edited by nYmPhets at 09:22 CST, 22 February 2012

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