if only g100s shape...

if only g1 shape...

never used before. is that the same shape as the g3?

As for the dimensions, yes. But without the coating. It feels nice and glossy. Still using the G1 although the sensor is not the best. (shape>sensor)

g100s is a gay mouse for what it is, at least a g400s is a better one.

g400s is a more heavy bisexual mouse though.

you're face is a bisexual mouse.

g400s is made for men. G100 is made for girly boys with small hands :)

Will buy if light weight.

Logitech ain't messing around. They skipped going Razer and went full Roccat. RGB lighting, fuck yeah. \o/

filthy casual mouse

This G302 mouse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWXxbbTIJ78 with additional mouse feet to the left/right of sensor to prevent wobble, but with the S3366 sensor from the G502.

no side buttons for lefties, fuck you logitech.

sensor is a nice update but that shape is terrible, would have been much better with a wider front and | | sides instead of \ /
And honestly the sensor was good enough even for FPS so this 'update' doesnt make much sense

For me the front is nice, it gives a good "pointing" feeling, like if I was aiming with a pen.
I don't like the back at all however. I'm too used to a slope (more or less steep - like the wmo or the da or even the mx5**) for a good tracking capability

Agreed on the uselessness of the update. The g302 sensor is quite fine

wat.

www.amazon.de/Logitech-910-004383-G303-Daedal...itech+g303

it's up on amazon.de with some pictures, it does appear to come with a braided cable.

aaand it's gone.

well link's dead for me at least

don't braided cables have a rubber/plastic sheath underneath anyway? is it that the rubber/plastic can be made thinner because of the presence of the braided cloth?

I was just about to order a g302, tried it at a friends pc and liked it a lot.
Any idea if/when the link will come back up? I'm in germany so ordering from amazon.de would be no problem.

there was no purchase link for it.

logitech has no press out for it atm so I'd expect it to be available couple weeks to a month after they announce (was that way for the 302 atleast). seems like they are getting close to announcing too what with all the leaks.

has anyone ever done a mod with the g302 pcb and another shell?

h8m3 tranferred the sensor to a G100s shell

wouldn't it then make it possible to do a transfer with the g303 sensor?

technically front part of g100s and g302 is similar(shape, button & wheel locations), so there isnt much work to do and you can swap them with a bit of plastic molding of the wheel button and the bottom. Guess you will be able to put g303 internals into g100s aswell

thanks for the info
how about fitting it into the ninox aurora shell?

Do I need any special tools to do this? I have a dead g100s and a g302 I can't get used to

i did it

basically used flush cutters to rip off anything in the g100s base that interfered with the pcb
no wheel button, no side buttons, no dpi but whatever

You know, I wonder if logitech have a special 3366 g100s for n0thing. Since he is the only one who still uses the g100s on the csgo team, even after the g303. He has also talked to them about a g100s update

there's nothing wrong with g100s unless you have 45cm+/360 sens

Well n0thing uses about ~50cm/360 if we do the calculations here based on his information, 2 sens, 400 dpi, and 1280x720 res.
http://www.konr.co.uk/mouse/

We see it can be an issue for him.

But you don't reach the malfunction that much on csgo, I personally have ~40cm/360. However, it happened about twice in 1vX situations so far for me.

shitty buttons/switches, 500hz, stiff cable (but at least light)

500Hz and cable is okay.
Buttons work (get lucky!).

Btw i saw Cloud9 Shroud using one! On his stream! I just wonder how does g302 leds changes colors all the time...
It must be it! the g303!! If you guys wonder why does he has one because he is sponsored by logitech.

some new stuff came out overnight from logi, can also watch this super cool not awkward review of the mouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5VbVX40TIA

the numerous zoomed-in panning shots are great. quasimodo is great too.

>claims to hit 4m/s in flick shots

either doesn't know what 4m/s is or doesn't know what a flick shot is.

if i move my mouse at 4m/s in-game, that is either me full on terror panic mode, or trying to make my model look funny to someone else.

probably both :P
linus's reviews are usually really casual so whatever

one thing that doesnt get enough attention is how "gracefully" the malfunction occurs when you're swiping fast and lifting the mouse. i think that the better sensors have an advantage here that is more important than their max tracking speed measured in optical testing scenarios where the mouse isn't lifted

That reviewer is beyond retarded.
>g302 isn't for fps since it lacks mouse feet and the sensor isn't up to par.

lol

Just got the g302 three days ago, love the shape and everything except for the known issues (cable/max tracking/wobbling).
Pre ordered the g303 and the g302 will be going back.
:)

preordered... i'm going to be upset if they come out with a g103 anytime soon

Definitely going to get this mouse. Already like the g302 a lot, and this apparently fixes the stiff cable.

I don't care at all about the sensor change, nobody is doing 2.5m/s+ flicks in game unless maybe they're playing tribes ascend.(Some of the snipers use 100+cm/360, so if they have to turn around they have to swing their arm)

It's interesting to note how bad players always talk about sensors when it makes 0 difference in-game.

Even if you dont exceed those speeds there are differences.

if you're willing to spend this much for mostly just a better cable, imagine how much profit someone could make by selling aftermarket mouse cables

edit: oh wow there are a bunch of them on ebay. no idea which ones are good though

it's the cable AND the rgb. I have white/orange keycaps and a white shiden kai with a g302. if i could turn the g302 orange instead of blue i'd have everything color coordinated

wait whats a white shiden kai

http://www.amazon.com/SHIDEN-white-SAMURAI-ga...shiden+kai

it's a samurai gaming mouse pad that was crafted in japan

i know but you said "kai"
shiden kai is the red/orange pad so i was like wtf there's a white one??

my life is a lie, my white pad is in fact a shiden. i do have a orange shiden kai though, mb i get a white mouse.

I don't know. I have used some pretty bad sensors. For example my kana would make me spin in circles randomly.

This mouse only gives you the spinning bug if you Surface Tuning it. Just like the G502. If you leave the Surface Tuning on factory default it won't let you down. Never.

BTW the Kana is a V1 or V2?

kana v1. I hear the new one is fine.

[ Question ]
do they still make the MX 518 ? is there a way to get a new one ?

discontinued, even the g100s was discontinued.

best bet is ebay or some other 2nd hand retailer i'd guess.

Nope, it just changed its name to g90 and hides itself somewhere in Asia. G100s didnt seem to do well in EU/NA anyway.

g90 has cheaper mouse1/2 switches and worse mousefeet though

Sacrifices have to be made.

Looks big an clunky. But I never have been a Logitech fan anyway.

got my g303 yesterday, best new mouse on the market. only thing I wish were done better is the weight, which should be 10-15g lighter if they didn't use such heavy plastics on the shell.

how does it compare to fk1 weight/shape/feel wise?

303 feels heavier than the fk, the 303 is also back heavy whereas the fk feels better balanced.

in palm/claw the butt of the mouse feels more comfortable with the fk, the more roundedness supports more of your palm. with the 303 it feels as though you're forcing something higher into your palm. dunno some people may actually prefer that, feels a little more stable.

in fingertip the shapes feel similar enough that i don't strongly prefer one over the other.

clicks are similarly tactile, though the fk is a lot stiffer than the 303.

biggest difference to me is the feel in weight, the 303 really doesn't compete.

the 303 is 3g lighter than the fk1 so it must just be the balance creating any perceived difference.

i am tempted to buy this mouse but unsure about the shape and if it's worth the price ($70). i'm currently using g100s.

i found transitioning from g100s to g302(same shape) really easy, theyre pretty much the same size and you get used to the edges pretty fast.

... or you never do. The shape is "kind of" similar shape but it's not the same.

Talk about G303 (?) glitching up+spin at overclock?
Also new LGS better support for 303 and others..but 303 firmware update?

"G303, G402 and G910 Firmware Upgrade - G303 has improved LGS support, G402 updates the Fusion Engine with identical tracking speed performance on both X and Y axis, G910 has improved color performance for select lighting effects"

.

The Surface Tuning is still useless. Factory default recommended. After calibration, the first rocket jump can cause epilepsy. :D

So I got the g303 yesterday.
Pretty much all that I expected (and hoped for!).
g302 with added feet, better cable, better sensor, rgb lighting
solves all the reported problems of the g302

g303:
-kind weird shape
-great sensor (best on the market imo)
-fairly light
-best buttons, seriously they are so fucking great, this is by far the best part about the g303/g302
-fixed the problems of g302

Nothing bad about this mouse. Literally the perfect mouse IF YOU LIKE THE SHAPE
This is pretty much a love or hate kind of shape and it's probably only good for claw grip.

Any questions about it I will answer!

For the guys having a g500 before and possibly getting a g303, could you please tell me if the shape of the rear is annoying?
I have big hands etc, i'm worried about ordering the g303 cause of the weird shape...

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comparing the mx518 (just about the same shell I think?) and g303 the rears are obviously very different. The 303 is also much shorter. personally can't imagine going from the g500 to the g303 and being immediately happy. the rear is thinner/doesnt fill out your hand as much, the g303 is a lot shorter and narrower in the front that the 518 as well. if you are really set on a rear like the 500/518 then the 303 isn't it.

huh, fuck, should have bought a fkn g400 when i could :////////
Thanks for the review though, gonna keep on investigate!

What about the g400S, is it as good as a normal g400?

does this have a removable weight like the g100s?

nope no easily removable weights

good mouse

Hi fellas, anyone tried opening g302? any way to make it lighter? Coming from wmo it feels REALLY responsive, only weight is holding me back from loving it with my whole heart.

I have heard from a few sources there is no extra weights or anything you can take out. This is for the g303 but they should be very similar.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1541751/logitech-g...t_23717138

Except the 511 THOUSAND screws measuring to a metric ton. A superglue mod could probably solve it but then..

I got a g303, I need to share first and second impressions!

First impression:

omg the shape. OMFG WHAT THE FUCK THE SHAPE!!..........what ...were they thinking.....hmm.....there must be a way to use this comfortably...

OH fuck YES the sensor. My god, it is great. But the shape.....


Second impression:

ok if you fingertip only the front part and avoid the back part, is is somewhat o.k.
hmm balance is so you grab the part furthest back with your pinky and thumb. ok it works somehow, but a conventional shape would have been the easier choice. I hope long gaming sessions won't make my fingers cramp.


oohhhh the sensor, how could I ever live without it :)
I prefer it to WMO (MLT04) all the way. future is here etc.

I like the G Pro better.