what a weak "hype" video
all that talent flying over and that's what they came up with :/

inb4 the tourney is really just a small part of....yadadada

BAWLS
GET HYPED

So far we have:

Id_/viju team is smashing rapha’s team in practice games

Br1ck apparently had a fight with ZeRo4 and he was kicked out of the team, and then was replaced with Sparks, bad move imo.

102 is doing horrible in CTF but they still showing up their dominance in TDM.

Averagers, which I thought was a weak team, seems to be doing pretty good and they are improving very quickly

iGamerz surprisingly doesn’t look that bad at both game types.

Unknown not doing that good at the moment

Avg has a lot of exp and talent on the team why did u think they r weak

Because lol scrollwheel.

Unknown not doing that good at the moment

Wut? They are beating everyone in Europe in CTF, they are very likely to get 1st/2nd place in CTF at Quakecon.

They are winning because ukn is miles ahead all the other teams in CTF, there’s no comparison. Still, they are getting pretty close scores. I think they haven’t got to their peak yet, that's what i meant.

(1) They are playing with tox, who isn't exactly a CTF superstar.
(2) They aren't playing with a stable line-up, switching between ph0enx, zyrinx, and tg. Their matches with zyrinx are much better than those with tg. Did you consider that in your analysis?
(3) I agree that this probably isn't their peak yet, but it's very unlikely that an European team will pass them.

(4) There's still time to Quakecon. They are already the best CTF team in Europe. Your summary stating their "not doing that good" is rather misleading.

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They can beat DaHang's team. Also, they have hopes of winning TDM, and hopes of winning the triathlon.

I'd give unknown...

... a 40% chance of getting 1st place in CTF
... a 30% chance of getting 1st place in TDM
... a 5% chance of getting 1st place in duel
... a 25% chance of getting 1st place in the triathlon

So overall, I estimate their chances of winning money as:

1 - (0.6 * 0.7 * 0.95 * .75) = 70%

That's not great (it's worse than their chances were last year), but pretty good.

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how does someone get 25% chance of triathlon when it's just an extra 1v1 match & they have 5% in duel o_O

That's not how the triathlon works. Read the rules again.

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Yes, there is a prize for winning the triathlon... because the tournament is called a triathlon. Surprising, right?

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Who would have thought? :)

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unknown will win

bet you 10 dolla and a chicken nugget happy meal

Looks like we have a shuffle between Uprising and NameUS. According to cl0ck - sparks is out. And apparently whaz is to join NameUS as a replacement. Already practicing http://www.quakelive.com/#!profile/matches/whaz

This is mentioned here http://www.twitch.tv/br1ck89/b/659504366 starting 25:00 (until the vod is removed ofc)

We'll see where sparks lands now, or what will be his qcon status.

you gotta love the na scene, so much cheap drama :-Q_

there hasn't been a real team environment in NA for like... 10 years? it's not really surprising that there would be some shakeups now when theres just suddenly a team tourney and nothing else.

Awesome news, surely whaz is an upgrade over anyone. :) This team will rock now.

Further into that VOD i linked (presumably)psygib and br1ck discuss how they'd be not very happy to have sparks as a teammate. So i feel listing him there is somewhat premature.

disgusting.
good luck to anyone playing big dick raphas team, i hope ya destroy them.

I hope something like this happens again... with Zero4 instead of czm in the mix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtKkP9HizMo rapha's facepalm on the last question

would be gold

gHs from Chile

http://www.fpspulse.com/news/ghost-squad-to-quakecon-2015/

Are they primarily a CTF team?

"These guys are focused almost exclusively on CTF."

Can't you read? :)

..but will they play ctf?

but why male models?

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This makes things interesting :D

this spaghetti shaft gets me every time

Judging by match results only they seem to be better than Doomsd4y's team. :d

Rapha may be my old fav, but, after seeing coollers old spark come back recently.when.he best Cypher and Evil . T'was awesome yall. Id tlove to stee stomething similsr for.him at this quakecon.

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Don't Forget to add Chillout to the list :(

are you the dueler of that team?

twitch is.

Is it even confirmed that spart1e will be averagers' dueller?
Fazz said on his stream that he, spart1e and noctis (dem0n said he didn't wanna play duel) will decide based on which team they play and who feels good on the day.

And a bunch of fat people standing in line at a hotel isn't a hype video.

if those 3 are in their best shape -> /bet noctis

I think noctis just doesn't like duel enough to get to his 'best shape', sadly. it's a shame, because he would indeed be amazing.

Zedii is alias for who? never hear of this player

he is a nub, no alias :)

hope to see pavel duelling as well, not only cooller.
also, not sure if spart1e will be dueller from avg, and not fazz

Don't Let Zorak Pick

Looks like Unknown got sponsored by "meltdown", hence they changed their name to MD- :d

Z O R A K W A R

I registered. It just forwards to youtube.com.

is this for real lol ?

he was stupid to post his email in twitch chat

Looks like this is the line-up for Br1ck's team after all: Br1ck, psygib, Fear, Avenged

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There’s still plenty of players that are good individually or in team modes and can play with him:

Chance, adrenal1ine, wonko, dkt, icel0re, vizard, klaovhwN, samer, effortless, etc…

Problem is I don’t know if they have the willing to go / have time, etc. :/

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lol

haha

c'mon man, step in. :D

In my eyes there's no clear favourite for any team mode anymore and I would give really good chances to unknown in both CTF & TDM.

102's dominance in tdm in the past years is solely based upon the fun prague lan where their only threat was 4oldmen who weren't exactly going there hardcore for the win (as opposed to the russians) - and it was still a rather close game if I remember correctly.

The same happens in CTF - in my eyes but I can be wrong, dahang's team is the more favourite of the two NA ones because of their current stability but even then I saw rapha's team giving a good shake to BREAK with the freshly acquired sparks in their team and they were visibly still working on the chemistry together.

Also other interesting thoughts that you need to think about : the us teams have completely shuffled from last year (team 2014 : dahang zero4 whaz br1ck / team welp : rapha cl0ck id_ psygib) with br1ck making it out and kgb + viju back in the mix. Last year, unknown put up a strong fight vs the US teams with gerppa instead of tox (they lost on OT on new cerberon and almost tied it on cp9 vs the eventual winners, that was pretty close). And I like and respect gerppa's ctf skills but tox's aim, on lan ?

Now these are all speculations today to say who's favourite and who's not but people tend to make everything simplier than it all really is tbh :). Let's just be happy that (almost) every team has started preparation early and this is possibly the most stacked quakecon lan ever when it comes to teams attending :).

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What does OTT mean ?

I've been practising and analysing a lot of stuff lately. Not to mention the experience I have from last year... I know what I'm talking about and saying anyone could win isn't me trying to hype stuff. There's still two months to go and every team has already started practising for about a month now. I think I just have an easier time at seeing the potential of any team than people reviewing it all from the outside.

Watch out for iG aswell as they could prove a pain in the ass if they reach their full potential.

EDIT : In case you didn't realize I still would call Break favourites in CTF and 102 in TDM but potentially I think a few other teams can surpass them.

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I agree on the fact that iG needs to step up their practising :)

I agree for the most part.
Such difference modes require different skills and personalities, so the variance of this QCon will be much higher that what it usually is.
Deciding where to put your floor and ceiling in terms of potential and skill varies. Same on how to approach the modes you are not best at.
Every map counts in this format, lesset teams will have a central role they never had in the past QCons and the uncertainity reigns supreme.

Still, i think you can have your favorites tho... While checking the scrims and development of everybody. And it's hella fun!

If teams stay this way, my predictions are:

CTF: 1. Meltdown 2. BTC 3. Whos Next?

Reason: While I find the American teams to be more dynamic and really coordinated in both shutting situations down as in creating them, I think Meltdown (Unknown) won't make the same mistakes as last time and become fully prepared to take first place based on individual quality.

Underdogs for me are Skrympy Lingerie and Averagers. I actually hope they do well as they have potential, but I am not sure how high of a priority they have to take first place in this mode.

TDM: 1. 102 2. Meltdown 3. Averagers

Reason: Basically a team play vs individual quality dilemma. I think 102 has the best balance of both and I am pretty sure they will take the TDM part of the tournament extremely seriously. Meltdown simply has the best individual quality in this mode as well, so any map that supports being able to aim your way out, they will take it.

Averagers I hope they do well, as I find noctis the best all-round TDM-er because he's really consistent and can turn games around without choking in the difficult situations.

Duel: 1. Cypher 2. DaHanG 3. Cooller

Reason: Out of all duelers I think Cypher is able to focus entirely on duel. Other players have teams that require a lot of effort in the other modes to reach that first place. DaHanG is always placed high and is very consistent in his play style (defensive and strategic). Cooller will place high, but I think he will be countered by the top 2 players.

I left rapha out, because I think he will put all his effort in CTF due to the competitive nature of his team and will rely on his experience in duel.

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Overall I think it will be a nice display of Quake Live being played at a high level. You have a great mix of heavy hitters and strategically set players. Will certainly watch all games if I get the chance and the stream works properly.

CTF: MELTDOWN

TDM: MELTDOWN

DUEL: TOX

MD winning CTF with half of the team being TDMers?

Only tox would qualify as mainly a TDM-er. link1n, Winz and Zyrinx are, currently, the best European players in their respective positions in CTF.

The only reason I would have doubts of them winning is that if they leave tox playing as an attacker, they lose so much quality in either mid or attack leaving Winz or Zyrinx as main defender.

I agree, tox flag D sounds better.

zyrinx played CTF almost exclusively before TDM, mappool its pretty oldschool also.

Alright, I didn't know. I'm surprised.

We need teams from Australia and Asia aswell!

Fraze pls come!

Yes FRAZE :( him and Camma raging on one team would be awesome

ghost squad represent!

Does BTC stand for between the cheeks?

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Every year since I've started watching I think the competitive scene is starting to get stale but the LAN's seem to get more and more interesting!

Can't wait for the TDM finals between 102 and MD

Nobody should even have questions about who's winning CTF. Every year people cheer for euros to come rip the table sheet from underneath the china , but we all know how it ends.

meltdown have a decent chance of beating BTC, take your disgusting patriotism elsewhere

donkz is Russian though

BSOD

hilarious

im actually more excited about the lower ranks. south america vs the not favourites will be interesting

Agreed. Averagers or Skrympy Lingerie against Ghost squad would be pretty interesting.

Looking at the tournament system, I think that this is quite likely to happen in the 3rd or 4th round of the tournament, assuming that these teams will have lost 1 or 2 of their first 3 rounds.

We don't know all the details about the tournament system yet, e.g. we don't know how the seedings will be done, so there's some uncertainty in this.

is this this OFFICIAL team list? or are there other ones we dont know about? because thats possible.

where has big homie sparks go??=]

kicked out of the team, plotting revenge now.

no offense, but raffer's team are named Who's next?

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Sounds like double pun to me :-/

They changed it after kicking Sparks, i think it’s clear that they did it on purpose. See cl0ck “bird-joke” thread for example.

I didnt really get the bird joke. was it because the bird is black?

ghs team practice stream: http://www.twitch.tv/ghsmesita

nice rail hombre

ty ^^ !

I'm looking for a team for cakecon btw, if any american team is one short please pm me.

EDIT: Found a team :)

Some stats about unknown (aka meltdown):

In the last 4 weeks, they have played 34 maps of CTF with their full line-up.
They have won 33 out of those 34 maps.

Their only loss was against a mixteam on Japanese Castles.

They have won 13 out of 13 maps against Team Averagers, and 4 out of 4 maps against 102.

edit: By now, the record has been increased to 7 out of 7 maps against 102, and 36 out of 37 in total.

the mixteams are better than the euros coming over in ze ctf

That's obviously not a reasonable conclusion.

team skrymp gunna wreck dem

They might destroy iG, but I doubt they will wreck the others.

Apart from their losses against MD, Team Averagers are playing very well by now. They win most maps against very good mixteams. I don't think that Skyrmpy will be much better than some of the best European mixteams, and they are definitely not near the level of MD.

Pretty much the same goes for 102. They are getting good results against everyone but Meldtown, I think they have made good progress. Russians are scary on LAN, you'll see.

As for iG, they really haven't played much CTF yet, and I imagine that communication is a big issue for them. In any case, they might not even need to accomplish that much. I feel like they might be trying to achieve ~2nd place in TDM, and if cypher wins duel, then a ~6th place finish in CTF can be enough for them to get the overall championship.

So, yeah...

Skyrmp ("Anything is Possible") lost against Deliberate Murder and Ghost Squad.

FoundEm lost against iGamerz.

(Averagers beat both Deliberate Murder and iGamerz.)

As it turns out, all the drama, line-up switches, and practice embargos weren't such a good idea after all. :D

practice practice practice (c) fatal1ty !

CTF: 1. MD 2. BREAK 3. [?]
TDM: 1. MD 2. 102 3. AVG
DOOL: 1. cypher 2. rapha 3. cOOLLer

4th memeber of "whos next?" is carnage.

Also one month left for the tournament. :>

The noctis home country joke is so old noone had bothered for more than a month to comment on the fact that it's there in the original post.

What joke?

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hm?

I love these little customs that shape the cake community identity

He needs a new Flag ^ ^
http://esreality.com/post/2749329/re-faceit-r...pid2749329

Hmm bad idea :/

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twitch, vig1lante, t41tg, gnomad

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Ah yes, QuakeCon. That time of the year when 50 or so players play QL for only two weeks out of the whole year but then never contribute to or do anything to revitalize the community in between. Go get em.

and they still win

this just in:
team Seems Questionable. [??] : br1ck, psygib, sparks, effortless

edit: I guess sparks is not going after all, no idea anymore

What about Fear and Avenged?

apparently they were kicked and teamed up with dkt and fiend now

who will duel for them?

strong team

Should be sparks.

Too bad zero4 isn't playing duel but you can't argue with dahang being their duel pick.
edit>> OK so z4 isn't on dahang's team anymore. rapha is. Teams change so fast it'll make your head spin. Same comment though, just substitute rapha..

I'm not sure I like this 3 gametype format. The closest thing to a 'supergroup' is IG with strenx and cypher. All the elite duelers seem to be spread out amongst the teams so they can duel.

So we don't get to see teams like rapha,dahang,z4 and zorak. That would be interesting...

So with all the shuffling and people making new teams, I'd just like to say that I'm available to fill a spot :)

Thank you and goodnight
-trex

Looks like cl0ck and crew kicked carnage for psygib

And now br1ck and sparks are teamless again, haha

this is beyond ridiculous.

Meanwhile BREAK has been practicing with a consistent lineup for months now and will in all likelihood crush everyone in CTF.

not MD

Based on the road2qcon tournament we saw i think it’s safe to say that EU teams, in terms of CTF, are mediocre at best. So MD will get a surprise facing BREAK, as they are way better than all the teams they are playing right now.

But yea, it's pretty obvious at this point that the final will be between MD and BREAK.

I dunno what games you guys have been watching but MD & avg both are looking to be in top form and have been playing eachother every day. Mean while all the drama and roster changes have hurt BREAK as they really have nobody to play so they have resorted to playing mixed pugs and lesser skilled teams when practicing. So BREAK winning by 3+ caps just about every game isn't nesasarly due to their overwhelming dominance but due to there not being any strong opposition in NA. The MD/Avg tend to be closer as the both are very strong teams who have been scrimming eachother regularly and each team being formilar with the others strats. As it sits now I would say

CTF

1) MD
2) BREAK/Avg
3) BREAK/Avg

TDM

Anyone of MD, 102, Avg can win and each should find themselves in the top 3.

Indeed, Sparks / Whaz shitty drama did hurt the scene pretty badly, now the two top teams (BREAK and rapha’s) are not playing against each other anymore and that will for sure affect their preparation for the tournament. They must be super mad or something.

I think MD showed yesterday that when they take it serious avg is not even remotely close to them.

Some of their caps on japan were kinda ridiculous though and we've had a bad game overall.

You're right in saying MD has the upperhand but I don't think we're as far from them as a 4-0 / 5-1 score goes. I think they're favourites going into ctf though

They aren't mad at each other, it's part of rapha's team's strategy to not play BREAK so as to not give them any hints about their play style or strategy. They're basically trying to use it as a competitive advantage.

Considering there's a >50% chance that they won't even play against each other in a given game mode, I'm doubtful it's such a good idea not to practice against basically the only good opponent they've had for the last few weeks.

Now that Faceit announced a road2qcon tourney (for EU) I wonder if fatal1ty is making his pre-qcon tournament this year (for NA), he haven´t even touched quake since he was ridiculed in this thread.

I will be the dueler for our team. I will crush the opposition. Add me to the duelers list!

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CTF: Break the curse
TDM: Meltdown.bar
1v1: Cypher
Overall: Meltdown.bar

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CTF: Meltdown (2nd BREAK)
TDM: Averagers (2nd Meltdown)
1v1: Cypher (2nd tox)
Overall: Meltdown

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so much optimism :)

and

TDM: Russia Deliberate murder

LOL

Switch tdm and ctf prediction and ur gold

everyone wants to be gold

Please can someone enlightens me about the ranking system :

If i understand correctly the "tournament exemple", the map score is highly involved into the ranking system ! (Buchholz and point's difference columns)

What will happen in case on forfeit at 1-0 score for instance ? (quite common in duel)

For the Buchholz system if your ranking is due to your opponents score then someone can lose purposely several maps with a important frags difference insuring points (and then money) to a fellow.

Buchholz and point difference are only used for tie breaks in swiss.

Can I haz schedule?

Theres atleast one more NA team attending which is that of carange, relic, vo0 and dkt I believe.

Apparently, "Severed Legion" is now CrazYs Cartel, clantag cc.

Also, HYPE TRAIN is apparently WTF is goin on???

I hope they are going to play with these clans since I created pages for them.

Also, can somebody confirm that, I'd like to have everything right on my profile pages :

1) t41tg is norwegian and not US
2) Pthy is Mexican and not US
3) t1g is spanish and not US, also is it t1g account ?


I'm not sure I understood the way things are going to be organized. As far as I understood, teams are going to play TDM, have some points, then play have some points, play duel, have some points.

Then, the two teams with best results in duel will select one players who will battle it out to earn 8000$ dollars.

I guess it's right ? The only thing that would help me with the coverage is the triathlon system. It's not groups, nor brackets, right? So... what kind of brackets will it be ?

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Pthy is mexican and poor confirmed

I'm not sure I understood the way things are going to be organized. As far as I understood, teams are going to play TDM, have some points, then play have some points, play duel, have some points.

They will also play CTF.

The team with most points in TDM gets $8,000.
The team with most points in CTF gets $8,000.
The team with most points in duel gets $8,000.

The team with the most points combined over TDM, CTF, and duel gets $8,000.

Then, the two teams with best results in duel will select one players who will battle it out to earn 8000$ dollars.

Correct. In a Bo5 match.

The only thing that would help me with the coverage is the triathlon system. It's not groups, nor brackets, right? So... what kind of brackets will it be ?

It's called a Swiss tournament system (see wikipedia).

In each round, all teams will play one match. Assuming there will be 14 teams, there will be 7 matches per round. Each match consists of 3 maps. Not Bo3. Always exactly 3 maps.

After each round, teams are awarded points according to their results*. Then, some semi-automatic system pairs up those teams who currently have similar amounts of points for the next round.

There are 4 rounds.

So there are 4 rounds for TDM, 4 rounds for CTF, and 4 rounds for duel. Each game type is independent of the other game types.

* points are awarded like this:
1 point per mapwin and 2 points for winning the match
So winning 3:0 gives you 5 points, winning 2:1 gives you 4 points, losing 1:2 gives you 1 point, and losing 0:3 gives you 0 points.

and you can't play the same opponent twice

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But doesn't that mean that only the two groups with the better duelers rooster will battle for the duel grand final?

I don't really understand your question. The two best duel players (one of which will have earned his team $8,000) will then play again, and the winner gets $8,000 for himself.

But the two best duel players how are determined? Everyone in evey group plays everyone else, and who accumulate more points individually is considered the best?

Or are the 4 players of a group battling others groups, and the best player of every group is determined internally? That would mean that only the two groups with the relatively best 4 duelers would pick a dueler for the duel grand final; which would mean, Tox and Cooller or Spartie, probably.

someone like Rapha wouldn't have a chance to try the duel grand final.

But the two best duel players how are determined?

With the same tournament system that is used in TDM and CTF. Do you understand it?

In each round, each team selects one duel player to play that round for their team.

Ah, ok, i missed that specific point; i tought all 4 players in a team played duel, because someone said so elsewhere. Thanks

Most likely there will be 16 teams, there's one missing here which is the team that "exitu5" is playing for (zoot confirmed that he's going) and the other team will probably be 4saken, but i don't know.

Also looks like there will be announces for Quake Live, like little changes for the game and so on. :)

inb4 HUGE update comming this fall !

Ironsights, headshots, and increased movement speed with gauntlet out will now be part of the default gameplay. Along with that, they will be introducing health regen to streamline gameplay. Like universal ammo packs, who has time to go around and pick up individual/specific ammo boxes or hp bubbles.

Can someone put http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon In the stream bar

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Quakecon Baguette Coverage : http://www.team-aaa.com/news-34786-0-1-_live_...live_.html

Jahar ??? Its Jehar ! -_-

Revenge for Latrom.

Là Trôme

Faceit production, but no ddk? That's like a fried bologna and peanut butter sandwich without the bologna.

Only 1 Australian?

Thx for everyone's suppport to bring noctis over!

http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon

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LOL i love ESR :D

anyway, lets have fun hype hype and good games

at least its not from 2014

shittiest cfg i've ever seen for quake streaming

10 times better than old one.

yes maybe, but still those effects like smoke or sparks are so annoying..
Especially not on "Source"

Sure, I wish there where GTV.

why the faceit logo in the hud ?

Good HUD but it should be more obvious whether it's following a blue or red player. The player name is way too small.

agree, a "red team" or "blue team" should be highlighted depending on what player is followed

If the weaponbar area was colored according to the team and name would be a bit larger, it would be perfect

ohh yes, i always looked at the ammo and health color :/

this is how i get ready for Qcon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk9RRgLMeP0

To be fair, Southamericans are playing much better than expected. :)

102 is holding back tbh

new features that tell you who picked up big items and show health and such is pretty nice.

lol at followkiller making everything dull as usual tho

basically ffa.
What are these stars above teammates' heads though?

if you can actually see the text ingame when an enemy picks up an item, its complete bullshit. the text for powerups was bullshit already, but its turbo bullshit for regular items.

if its only for spectators, the execution of it is stupid. why not have the name pop up next to the item that gets picked up since there's already a list of items on the left?

that would be smart design

It's only for spectators and there's no list of items in TDM or CTF(apart from PUs) because there're team bars now on sides

uh what, there was the item timing list very clearly on the left side of the screen?

yeah, shame

Can we get rosters for 'This isn't CA?' and 'Anything is possible?"

also if they are gonna stream 1 game per round its gonna be an utter disaster :FFF hope im totally wrong with this

Its quakecon bro, and theres zoot and syncerror involved. DO THA MATHS

this "Latrom" guy is pretty good

RESPECT THE PACO

151-28 Break vs 1800 ready.. where is mercylimit ?

Mercylimit 100 after 10 minutes.

very awkward ending interview

Shut-in Nerds needing to talk to other ppl lmao

Someone in chat called it.

"after watching so many CS streams this feels like muppet show"

i'am for Waldorf and Statler :)))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLYAK1_r0Zg&hd=1

Embarrassing production as per usual

hilarious production guy in the background


can you hear me? :D

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Quakecon is like having a crack addict brother. Every year he promises to give it up and you somehow get your hopes up but nope

Comment Of The Year

That's pretty sum it up :D

And of course EGB.com didn't add Quake games but can hardly blame since there was no fucking info about the matches.

lol inb4 muricans are the real kings of tdm

oh man this impressive audio bug again while watching winz

Guys i've got to say I'm pleasantly surprised. Specifically the casting - exaggerated ooh and wows, fake sounding hype, competition for speaking time, general nervousness and the likes - is usually a major nuisance for me. Especially when I get a feeling that a stream seems to be more about the casters than the games. But zoot and jehar interact really nicely here, in a very laid back and relaxed fashion. Like it. Very much.

that's how quake should be casted most of the times.

Is there any way to see details of past matches? There is no record of quakecon matches on quakelive.com

http://challonge.com/qc15_trimaster_tdm point the mouse to see map scores

yeah, but it'd be nice to see statistics for each player

oh, i see. We can't because of the new client i guess <.<

QuakeCon matches were always played on a closed off infrastructure in the previous years too so even with the old client we couldn't see match stats this way.

HYPE!

WTF happened to ESR!? The one big quake tournament we have and the site goes down?!

The servers were just getting ready for the major disappointment.

esr isn't loading wtf....

I just made this account here to tell you it's offline, please fix it

reply to me here when esr is back online please

just imagine cooller winning

Can't be possible. Our planet will explode not being able to handle the much bloated cooller's ego.

ESR has gone down pro-actively, so it was down before it started.

Alex "JAHAR" Popa

and just below it's

@Jehar

Seriously? How much of no #care do these people in charge of overlays give?

@whoever in charge of twitch.tv/quakecon stream:
put the links for TDM brackets (and later for CTF/duel) in stream description. Also teams and rosters. Schedule. You are welcome.

Second stream would have been nice. We just missed 102 vs found em (rapha ,z4).

I expect to see them go head to head in CTF \o/

This is what the new layout looks like:

ugly

didnt watch that, what is this?

Comes along with the new HUD, it’s all a new design to the game.

well i'm glad they did anything at all tbh and it isn't making it worse. it seems to be better than the old one.it might sound weird but looking at past years of id's work you could expect downgrades only.

i suppose they had to take a nap instead of streaming the last map of rapha-102

not like the old days eh

yea no one is going the distance you guys were

To be fair we enjoyed watching TDM, we know these guys don't particularly.

But it's not the casters fault anyway, it's this weird idea that its more professional to sit on a holding screen for 2 hours instead of only seeing part of a match live. All or nothing.

yeah you're right, all my criticism isnt really only towards the casters

still better than ql.tv

its always like this, year after year, its a tournament for players, spectators r not so important, e.g. just one game per round, plus long breaks and no content in between. When u look at the official quakecon page, lots of volunteers, which equals lower production value.

Are demos going to be uploaded? I want toxic's dm14 pov against averagers so I can see that rail on noctis.

it wasn't tox

it was

it was linkin, and after the kill the pov switched to bs carrier tox

oh :<

Watched the vod, it was definitely tox.The new feature stated in chat that tox killed quad carrier.

Wow, duels only on saturday... such nice.

gj by the "cameraman" on dm14. Showing 0 minutes out of 20 of what happened at rail and spectating for like 8 consecutive minutes a guy holding an angle in SG chokepoints

Jehars commentary of zyrinx reminds me of how commentators talk about white nba players lol.

nobody will get that lol

elaborate

He's a real go-getter, high iq player, total gym rat, scrappy defender, lot of hustle, runs the floor well.

Basically a bunch of worn out phrases they repeat for every white player.

He seems to think tox, linkin and winz are the stars of the team and zyrinx is some random so while zyrinx was destroying avengers he kept reiterating how he was "not flashy" just "always staying alive, hard to kill" etc. If it was toxic making those frags he would have been rattling down all the superlatives.

no m8 I think ur just racist

I remember spraying cum on zyrinx back when he played for sitto, he was always so cheeky and played like a god damn cockroach - almost unkillable and always dodging so well with like 10 hp.

Crazy how talented he is when it comes to evading death with low hp

i'm a pretty disappointed about the new spec ui

especially the health bars could be so much better... like 4 times bigger and more clearly arranged...

expected too much i guess...

tbh its a pretty good start but i hope they finish it

yea i agree... needs some more work done

Maneeee

We didnt have ANYTHING up until few days ago.

IF you ever customized UI's you know that everything is easily customizable in QL UI's. (its just that ID decided not to open spectators HUDs to be editable)

I can see that they COULD (and should) do so, and then you would have freedom to move, color, and resize as you wish.

Anyway, MAJOR step forward!

As predicted the TDM final is between 102 and Meltdown.

Hoping for a good performance from 102 and not what we’ve seen in the road2qcon tourney.

Tox looking fucking sexy with the viking beard

Is it seriously asking too much to want to see more games? More streams at same time giving us to see all our favorite players/teams throughout the early rounds?

Why didnt Bethesda open up there wallets and get more casters like Shpuld?

because of the "open up their wallets" part.

they had DXRacers at Quakecon FFS, i want to see chairs from 80s and fucking more games!

In Europe i see 125fps every month or two now, when do i get to see Dahang or Rapha? Maybe tomorrow or Saturday or 2016

gg

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He's looking well

Quakecon never fails to dissapoint. WTF hud, breaks, and music.

Never a dissapointment with id and the rest of the clowns.

Anything is Possible and 1.800 Readyup should be ashamed. They broke the streak of every match being 3-0 so far.

all lopside scores. only maybe have one match with 5 point diff

is maybe reason tdm is no fun for spectator. maybe final round better

GET FUCKED MELTDOWN, SON YOU GOT 4 FUCKING IVAN DRAGOS COMING AT YO ASS

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jehar is so annoying, not very insightful and not funny...

thx zoot brings some knowledge in

You know things have take a wrong turn when zoot brings in knowledge about TDM :D

get away with you !

ggwp.

the amount of pummels last map lmao
gg! md <3 winz potd?

Meltdown vs 102 last game on dm14 was amazing, gg wp from both teams!

MD vs 102 must watch.

A game for furthere generations.

wow, amazing game

Sick final actually, both teams delivered.

gg'z wp

really great games so far! gg MD wp and congrats!

ggs, awesome that 102 were able to put up a fight after the weak online performances.

Shame the dynamics of dm14 went over the casters heads, it was quite an awesome strategic struggle.

It is quite impressive how Russians did a good job at trying to recover the red room - while limiting the spread between the scores - which was in MD's possession most of the time.

GGs beyond great finals

wp MD ! As expected.

Very good performanceby avg. and BREAK.

Will be interesting tomorrow with CTF.

Can't wait.

I sense this might be dahangs tournament, I know that's been said before. I just hope I haven't jinxed it :o









... glad the TDM is over :P

Could we get the stats sheet picture for Day 1 linked?

http://i.imgur.com/6VxMbz7.png

latrommi lol

zadrot

Thank you

Noctis best of the best.

http://challonge.com/qc15_trimaster_tdm will do?

http://i.imgur.com/Iitdozu.png

Where did you get that?

QUAKECON 2015 DAY 1 - TDM VODS :

http://www.esportactu.fr/competition/2655-qua...r-tdm/vod/

I'm not getting any sound from them vods? :/

Damn... I don't know why it does that... I'm sorry but I do what I do normally and it does that for a while now...

Just check the time, and then go to the VOD by yourself via quakecon's twitch and go to the proper time... it's the only solution I guess.

Just keep trying, refreshing. Twitch will sort its shit eventually.

i have a fix, you need to load the VOD from the start and manualy go at the time mark you want, if you use a link with timestamps in URL it will not work, you need delet timestamps in url and load page again.

this happens since the massive Flashplayer leak and hack 2 or 3 weeks ago.

hope this worked. have nice watching!

Thank you my friend!

try Google Chrome browser or dl it with youtube-dl

https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/blob/master...stallation

you can sort the name tag of the output file with the options in the wiki

youtube-dl.conf (notepad or notepad++)


--output '/homedownloaddir/%(uploader)s.%(title)s.%(upload_date)s.%(ext)s'
--restrict-filenames
--no-overwrites
--continue
--no-call-home
--quiet
#--rate-limit 10M
--rate-limit 1M

# = toggle on / off rate limit

https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/blob/master...t-template

youtube-dl http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8312061

will download the file with approx up to 7-10 GB .mp4

could take a while lol

That was tense. gz to MD! 102 can only blame being lazy with pracc.

Congratulations MD.

I feel a bit sad for deliberate murder and Averagers that it's winner takes it all, their performances was worth a bit of rewarding.

Very good last map from both teams, if you have to watch a VOD it's MD vs 102. for sure.

GG Russians, you fought well. Congratulations MD !

Now it's time for the USA teams to show off ! Come on, it's in Dallas, defend your flag :).

And to capture the others' they have to paddle over to Europe or what's the idea behind that picture?

Triathlon man... no paddle, they have to swim !

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is that Vo0 standing behind L white / orange shirt ?

ye its vo0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_NsC5uimqg

The first round of the CTF tournament has been decided already. These are the matches:

BREAK vs CrazYs Cartel

Meltdown vs Dont let Zorak Pick

Found Em vs RESPECT THE PACO

Anything is Possible vs We used to be good

Averagers vs Bro science

Ghost Squad vs 1-800 READYUP

IGamerz vs This isn’t CA?

Deliberate Murder vs Four Untrained Newbs


My suggestion to stream is BREAK vs cc, because all the others seem terrible.

Noctis and Latrommi TDM MVPs

Haha, Noctis's net is crazy.

At least i can retire my ql tdm career with some little dignity :F

You played amazingly.

If it's your first retirement talk I'll be worried.

You'll always be fondly remembered as the very brave Australian that you are. But what happened? You guys fell behind practice results. Taking one map, like dm14, was the minimum expected. I cried.

tbh, noctis needed a better team

They got to give me something today, to mend that broken heart. Like this.

Put on the war paint and gather together in a circle, hold each other firm at the shoulders. Then remind themselves that this is the day, to jointly and honorably live or die together. There will be no other one. Never. Then speak those shamanic words, that will bring the force upon them. And then go and wipe those smug grins off those little dwarfs faces.

Show them those teeth, that will soon rip through their flesh. Make them weep and moan and suffer, and beg for mercy. And curse the day that they were born.

No teamspeak will be needed. Their bodies and minds will be one, in perfect harmony. They will grab the flag but never think of scoring. Instead, they will fly through the map enjoying the cool breeze, handing the flag to each other while waving it at those angry little dwarfs. And while those try to chase them, they will easily brush them aside with gentle strokes of their shafts and playful stings of their rails.

Only randomly will they come through their base and realize: "oh yes, I remember this is my base, I might just as well score." And this is how they're going to make their points. And in the end they will come out of the game feeling refreshed like never before.

One map, minimum. And I will go to bed tonight with a blissful smile on my face.

leiwande leistung

i guess that RAIL hurt alot :)

TOX railing NOC with quad in hand
http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8312061?t=3h56m10s

Sorry man but I see no dignity in stats by winning much lower skilled teams.
Look at this stats. kgb >>> winz?

Emenike always shitting on people, some weird results doesnt means all results are bad, Noctis and Latrommi have been tdm gods for a long time, newb.

Noctis you want to have a duel? Are you closer to Sydney or Adelaide?

Impossible net, wtf! Noctis at least 50% better than any other best player.

lmao, vigilante sucked so bad.

Why ? Top 10 damage dealt... it's pretty good, isn't it ?

On the last map of 102 vs md, when 102 lost control of quad and the pu's were offset wouldn't basic strategy be to then split up around the map, forgot about trying to win the body suit and just try to minimize frags against.? If you spread out and just report where the pu's are you might not give up too many frags right? It has to be better than just dropping in the body suit room and getting destroyed by quad and the rest of md

>body suit

Yeah I think they kinda gave up at that point

they did everything alright, they just lost quad area before quad came up 2 times in a row

IDK man, when the quad is like 20 secs before BATTLE suit, there's really no chance of getting the BS. Both time IIRC, 102 guys dropped in the BS room trying to steal it I guess. And both time's they were all destroyed by a room full of MD and quad. I could be remembering it wrong though.

But if they just let the suit be taken then they got 10 secs of quad and 30 secs of BS. If they just kind of spread out, take weapons and items as they can and report where the BS is, they might have died less. And they only lost by like 9 frags.

bs is such an area that it's always possible to sneak it

102 not shamanic enough.

or manly enough

Yeah that's cool to watch for sure but they're not trying that shit against MD with a bunch of 40%+ lg and 65%+ rg pros plus a guy with quad all camping the room.

EDIT: Ok I just watched again and the quad zyrinx got, I can understand them try to steal the bs after I guess (didn't work out but..) But the one after that they might have stayed away. Then after they lost the BS too, they all grouped together by the lg jump pad and just got mowed down. Grouping togther like that made it easy for the quad guy to get a couple more kills.

IDK, seems like they could have won but made some bad decisions towards the end. gg though. Even if they avoided all the kills I just mentioned they still would have lost by a couple.

lul noctis did the same in some eurocup match

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I'd like to expand regarding the format: there were 3 massive flaws that simply made this tournament a joke.

1st- the tiebreakers are REtarded.
I've partecipated in many swiss tournaments in different games and the tiebreakers were always based on the record of your opponents, then in a minor part on what, in quake, are frags difference\maps won in total.

With the current system, if you start 0-1 and you get to play lesser opponents all the way through you will have an unfair advantage in the end, because you have a match higher chance to steal maps against a 0-1 then a 0-2 and then again 1-2 opponent.
Meanwhile a team winning the first round will play vs a 1-0, 2-0 and 2-1 opponent, face stronger enemies and get behind because they got less maps vs vastly superior teams.

With the tiebreaking system based on the opponents' record, this largely unfair advantage is denied, because your tiebreaker rating will plummet by playing other bad teams.

This is exactly what happened to IG (and a bit to FEm, but you know, karma maybe? :D). They started 2-0 and then got paired vs 2 strong teams and lost all the following maps.
On the other side, the LOLChileans got rekt and mercylimited 3x by their only decent opponent and then just got easier competition that led to a 1 map victory in defeat and an undeserved 6th place.


2nd-The LMAO way to pair the 1st seed with the 9th and the 8th with the 16th. This not only set up the tone of everything to a massive fuckup from the getgo, giving massive tiebreaking advantage pretty much randomly. Hell this is fucking why you have seedings, to preserve the competitive integrity of the tournament! How can you fuck this up from the fucking start?
This is so retarded i don't even need to explain this point any further.

3rd- they both caused the 4th round fuckup between the 2-1 teams that led Anything is Possible to an undeserved 3-1 scoreline.

the 2-1 teams after 2 rounds were: AVG, IG, Break, FEm, Zorak and Anything is possible.
Zorak and Anything is possible had the worse tiebreakers in any possible way: worse maps difference, frags difference and they both lost BO3 against 1 of the other 2-1s.
They are the two lowest 2-1s.
And yet they fucking get paired against eachother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(I'll try to replicate what happened exactly and how this epic fuckup happened in my next post)

I'll close with this:
Anything is possible opponents as the 7th seed: 15th seed, 3rd seed, 11th seed 12th seed. And they somehow place 5th in TDM

Anything is indeed possible if you are effortless apparently :DDD

this were the standing after 3 rounds of the teams we are interested in (2wins, 1 loss):

3rd IG
4th AVG
5th Break
6th FEm
7th Zorak

8th Anything is possible

One crucial detail: Anything is possible has 1 point less (1 map loss to Chile) than the others, so they are not tied for third place!!!!

The tiebreakers for the others (all tied at 10 points): 1-Round won vs opponents with the same scores. 2-frags difference.

So IG won 1 round vs Zorak, that gives them the 3rd place and gives Zorak the 7th. The others are lined up accordingly.

The fuckup: The team paired down is the team with the lower position. But this is not a real pair down because the fucking 8th seed is 2-1 as well in matches! So Zorak gets rewarded despite being the worse team out of the ones with 10 points, and Anything is possible gets rewarded despite losing a map.
After this pairing the rest happen.

So IG or FEm were better off losing 1 extra map in their first 3 rounds))))

What should have happened in this round with best possible Rules (proper pairing system, tiebreaker based on strenght of the opponents, no extra points on maps):
3rd AVG - 8th Zorak
4th IG - 7th Anything
5th Break - 6th FEm

It'd be so funny to actually see how badly the 3 wrong qcon rules influence this round. If you change 1 of them back to the qcon rule everything changes. And of course you needed all 3 to get to the most retarded outcome, the one that actually happened in real life :D

2 of those 3 retarded rules also made round 2 particularly badly paired. CBA explaining it right now tho


TL;DR: they paired teams stupidly (1seed vs 9seed, 8vs16 instead of 1vs16 and 8vs9), picked the wrong scoring system (one proper of all play all instad of swiss), the wrong tiebreakers (again, one proper of all play all instead of swis) and paired down the wrong team.
Another epic QCon fail :D

You make many valid points

but seriously..... do you even RESPECT THE PACO?

tl;dr: big wall of text to shit on a southmurican clan getting 6th place

lol please. It's not who got there. I would not advocate for FEm getting screwed if that was the case, because fuck EM, they kind of deserve it.

And the worse case by a big margin is the Anything is Possible team finishing 3-1. Way bigger travesty than the Chileans getting 6th out of stupid score system.

Actually... it's an interesting read and I it only vaguely mentions the irrelevant SA nonamers.

i'll also add: the South Muricans teams gotta hella screwed from the getgo as well.
Because of the stupid pairing system instead of having a chance to upset the medium NA team (who they proved they could beat) they got instapaired vs 102 and Averagers in round 1 LOOOOL

thanks

Tbh it seems you greatly misunderstand the swiss system and I dont quite get all this rant. Qcon rules strictly followed it's principles, let me clarify them:
1) The point of such a tournament format(which is pretty much written in any swiss system description) is ONLY to determine who gets the 1st place(and last :D) and that's why the strongest teams play each other and that's why the 1st place gets all the money. You should NOT look at the midtable because there were not enough rounds to form it precisely unlike in round robin tournament which would have taken 4 times more matches. Basically you should look at this tournament like at a Single Elimination tournament but with a great bonus for the weaker teams to actually play more than 1 game.
2) Initial and later pairing(for example initial 1-9,2-10,etc) is one of the main principles of Swiss System(and I never saw the variants you propose tbh) made to minimize the score spread and define the comparison parameters ( Score,TB,Buchholz,Pts Diff http://challonge.com/qc15_trimaster_tdm/standings ) to declare a winner. Cause two 3-0 teams might have not happened so that you'd have needed to look at the points. And also for example MD and 102 raping the worst teams as you propose with 200+ fragdifference on a single map would have totally broken those parameters(which luckily werent even needed today)

The only 'random' thing might be the overall tdm+ctf+duel winner, but that's most likely not gonna be the case with MD or BREAK taking it quite convincingly