ESR - QUAKECON 2015 DAY 3: DUEL

Yep :)

The overall standings are something like this:
1 Meltdown.bar ............... 36
2 Break the Curse ........... 31
3 Deliberate Murder ......... 31
4 Averagers .................... 30
5 iGamerZ ...................... 23
6 Ghost Squad ................. 23
7 Anything is Possible ....... 20
8 Found Em .................... 20
9 Don't let Zorak pick ....... 20
10 CrazYs Cartel .............. 19
11 This Isnt CA? .............. 15
12 We Used To Be Good .... 14
13 Respect the Paco...........13
14 Bro Science (LIFT)........ 11
15 1.800.READYUP ........... 10
16 Four Untrained Newbs ... 4

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<< Comment #5 @ 18:01 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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csgoismorefun

TOX
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Cypher will be first, tox 2nd evil 3rd dahank 4th and rapha will fail jsut like in tdm and ctf. Murican drama > rapha

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Sandslash - Reply to #5

I can bet he has other priorities in life already, so he's here just for fun, like cooller.

<< Comment #118 @ 06:57 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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sonic - Reply to #71

cooller was playing 6hrs a day leading up to quakecon just for fun. okay, stanley.

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<< Comment #180 @ 10:05 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Sandslash - Reply to #118

Makes sense. I wouldn't do something for 6 hours straight many days in a row if I wouldn't find it fun to begin with.

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Zarathustra - Reply to #180

:)))))

<< Comment #192 @ 10:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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sonic - Reply to #180

he's not there to have fun, stanley, he's there to win money

<< Comment #1174 @ 08:49 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #192

Imo its more about pride and honor than money for Cooller now, he has a nice job for that.

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sonic - Reply to #1174

everyone is entitled to an opinion

<< Comment #834 @ 21:31 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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foctis - Reply to #5

such prediction
many accurate
wow

<< Comment #4 @ 18:00 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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flocks

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Can't wait! Should be lots of games to watch and less picture in picture. :D

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<< Comment #54 @ 20:25 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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lolograde - Reply to #4

Evil is prolly demoralized from getting beat down the last two days.

<< Comment #63 @ 23:26 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Ephemix - Reply to #54

I'd say there's a good chance he was just practicing circle jumps or something the whole time

<< Comment #175 @ 09:51 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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butcher_kgp - Reply to #54

he can earn 8k from duel division, nothing to be demoralized about.

<< Comment #186 @ 10:22 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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lolograde - Reply to #175

We'll see. Mindset and confidence is a huge component of competitive play.

<< Comment #6 @ 18:08 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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netrex

This will be great. Though, still not used to map names being used instead of file names.

<< Comment #7 @ 18:09 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Venser

TOX HYPE

<< Comment #8 @ 18:15 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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xemorx

given duels last only 10 mins, the duel stage must get done in half the time we had for team modes...

<< Comment #9 @ 18:19 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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tvorimir

After two days we have:
MD - 36 points
102 and BREAK - 31 points
AVG - 30 points

so, either cooller or dahang has to win every single map tomorrow to compete with MD for the main trophy

(such a pity 102 didn't win TDM)

Edited by tvorimir at 18:21 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #11 @ 18:21 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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magadog - Reply to #9

You beat me to it :) But how do you figure? Tox could lose against eviil , zorak, rapha in lowers rounds etc and slip up.

All those guys will want to win so they can in in the final duel

Edited by magadog at 18:23 CDT, 24 July 2015

<< Comment #30 @ 18:42 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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inspectre - Reply to #11

The duel portion is definitely more wide open than the other events, so Tox can't take his team's 5 point lead for granted. 100% agree with you there.

However, it'll be interesting to see what seed he is given tomorrow. Will Syncerror take into account all team members or just the ones most likely to participate in each duel round?

Depending on how this is done, Tox may be seeded somewhere in the 5-8 range. I'd say if he is seeded 6-8, he'll basically have a free 5 points from the first round. Then if he can secure 4-5 more points, it will be very tough for BREAK, 102, or AVG to catch up.

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #30

Also do keep in mind that there's a huge conspiracy going on whenever there's seeding involved.

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<< Comment #39 @ 19:09 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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inspectre - Reply to #34

Can't argue with you on that :)

Tox is currently 2nd on QLRanks, but Cypher, Rapha, DaHanG, Evil, Cooller, Spart1e, Strenx, and Zero4 have all had more success at past quakecons during the Quake Live era - each earning at least a 2nd place finish.

<< Comment #38 @ 18:53 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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tvorimir - Reply to #11

Yeah, it's true that there are a lot of possibilities. I just assumed that tox can get something around 15 points

<< Comment #44 @ 19:43 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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magadog - Reply to #38

The least tox would realistically score is like 6-8. So that would leave the door open for cypher if everyone else did shitty as well. So basically cypher and anyone below him is out of it.

The rest should be pretty interesting though cause a lot of shitty seeds are like evil and rapha etc. lol. So a lot will depend on just shifty liuck.

<< Comment #45 @ 19:45 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #38

There is a max of 20 points in each segment. But making 4-0 (+ winning all maps) in this field is not trivial. If the pairings are similar to tdm & ctf than Tox has two easy opponents + two hard ones, so at least 10 points almost guaranteed. So how pairings are actually done is even more important than before.

Edited by daytripper at 19:45 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #46 @ 19:50 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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magadog - Reply to #45

Yeah but an 'easy' pairing could be evil. Lol he's on a shitty team. That's the thing. And no guarantee if he loses that he will be going against someone shitty in second round either if he gets really unlucky

Edited by magadog at 19:51 CDT, 24 July 2015

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daytripper - Reply to #46

Yes, initial seeding is very important here, but I don't think they will use standings from previous sections for the initial seedings, wouldn't really make any sense. As for pairings in subsequent rounds, the rules are rather vague: "In subsequent rounds, competitors are sorted according to their cumulative scores and are assigned opponents with the same or similar score up to that point. Some adjustments may be made to as sure that no two players ever oppose each other twice or to even out advantages a player may have due to chance."

Edited by daytripper at 20:09 CDT, 24 July 2015

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magadog - Reply to #49

Ah, ok. If that language wasn't in there I'd would have guessed they would just have to go with the system and whatever pairings it spit out.

So realistically It'll be between tox, cooller, fazz/spartie and dahang for the overall $8k.

But rapha, cypher or evil could win the day tomorrow and go on to the grand final, correct?

Edited by magadog at 20:31 CDT, 24 July 2015

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daytripper - Reply to #55

Yes to all. But I can only see cooller or dahang realistically challenge tox for top placement in duel. It'll be difficult for everybody as all the other top dogs are there as well.

Edited by daytripper at 21:41 CDT, 24 July 2015

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magadog - Reply to #57

Yeah, looks like they are seeded based on dueling ability with
cypher #1
rapha #2
Dahang #3
Evil #4
Tox #5
Cooller #6
Fazz #7
Chance #8
etc

<< Comment #13 @ 18:22 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #9

cooller easy

<< Comment #19 @ 18:31 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #9

if tox goes 2-2 in matches, a 3-1 with very few map losses can be enough for Dahang or Cooller.
I wonder what the tiebreaker is in the overall thing.

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<< Comment #26 @ 18:37 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #19

doubt sync even knows

<< Comment #40 @ 19:35 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #19

Yes. Cypher, Rapha, Dahang, Evil, all the heavy hitters are present, so MD is far from guaranteed first overall.

<< Comment #61 @ 23:09 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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magadog - Reply to #19

Since we now know they are seeded by duel ability, Tox will most likely get 10 points in the first 2 rounds along with every other top dueler.

I think 51 is the magic number for tox, so if tox does whats expected and gets 10 points in the first rounds that will take him to 46. So if he has a 3-0 after that he basically wins the $8k for overall team. But if he had a 0-3 loss, then he could still lose with a 2-1 victory. So he could win 3 matches and still lose with a 0-3 sweep against him. As long as someone (cooller or dahang) had a perfect performance with no losses. I think.

Edited by magadog at 23:17 CDT, 24 July 2015

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magadog - Reply to #61

But basically it looks like MD will win all three team titles.

<< Comment #102 @ 05:11 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #61

His 2nd round win is not a lock, he will play a competent dueler since there are 8 of them.

<< Comment #10 @ 18:20 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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magadog

QC said 8 games tom will be streamed.

Here are the teams scores (that have a shot) (according to my math, numbers may be wrong)

md 36
break 31
102 31
avg 30
iG 23
ghs 23

So I think 20 total points are possible tomorrow.

So I think Cooller, spartie (or fazz?), Dahang all have decent shots but the rest would need some big help.

Very possible Cypher could not drop a single map so maybe he could win. Not sure.

Edited by magadog at 18:31 CDT, 24 July 2015

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scowl - Reply to #10

QC said 8 games tom will be streamed.

Source?

<< Comment #47 @ 19:58 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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magadog - Reply to #27

Official looking person on the stream. They were named quakecon and had a camera icon next to name.

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Bob - Reply to #27

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Edited by Bob at 11:36 CDT, 26 June 2024

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<< Comment #12 @ 18:22 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Venser

EGB duel bets confirmed

Edited by Venser at 18:22 CDT, 24 July 2015

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iavoal - Reply to #12

Still havent't found it)

<< Comment #731 @ 18:57 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser - Reply to #184

Fucking liars

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #731

b-b-b-but you posted an image of someone saying "yes" on the internet :c

<< Comment #1045 @ 09:49 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Venser - Reply to #777

At least I didn't lose all my money on Cypher

<< Comment #15 @ 18:27 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Tripleight

The overall standings.

36 - MD
31 - Break
31 - 102
30 - Avg
23 - IG
23 - Ghost Squad
20 - Anything is possible
20 - Found them
20 - Don't let Zorak pick
19 - CC
15 - This isn't CA
14 - We used to be good
13 - Respect the paco
11 - Bro Science (LIFT)
10 -1.800
4 - Four untrained noobs

<< Comment #21 @ 18:32 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #15

four untamed lubes fit in great

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<< Comment #16 @ 18:29 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Maestrooo1

EZ for Cooller tommorow.

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Maestrooo1 - Reply to #16

C

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Tripleight - Reply to #17

O

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xemorx - Reply to #18

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Tripleight - Reply to #20

K

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xemorx - Reply to #22

S

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<< Comment #24 @ 18:34 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Maestrooo1 - Reply to #23

ZOMG :(

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Tripleight - Reply to #23

I think we would understand each other very well IRL

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<< Comment #29 @ 18:40 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #25

no doubt friend, no bloody doubt!

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #23

That ended better than expected

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xemorx - Reply to #33

ye, expected big "U" next

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<< Comment #28 @ 18:39 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

Isn't there potential for some payoff type scenario?

Like if its Evil vs cypher/cooller/fazz in the finals

So evil's team CANNOT win the 8k from points, if that nigga says to the other dude, 'yo $1k and Ill let you stomp me' for that sweet points.

??????

Edited by jamalz at 18:39 CDT, 24 July 2015

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Fattyboom - Reply to #28

but there are also 8 k to win just from the duel bracket... so evil would be missing out on that

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<< Comment #36 @ 18:48 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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tvorimir - Reply to #31

+8k from grand final

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Tripleight - Reply to #28

Evil giving away games in duel to who? Cypher? Dahang? Cooller? Fazz/Spartie? Tox? Rapha?

I don't think so.

The only advantage I see that could be gained is from "gray area" duelers like chance/dkt/doomsday/zorakwar who potentially could take a map from some of the top tier duelers. They could be like, "1$k, I'll let you stomp me completely for ensured points", but even that couldn't guarantee an overall victory.

Edited by Tripleight at 19:10 CDT, 24 July 2015

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daytripper - Reply to #28

I would like to see the google translate version of that conversation. ;)

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Tebeg - Reply to #42

Money given I push cyka lost you blyad.

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CrazyAl - Reply to #28

The word you're looking for is collusion.

<< Comment #35 @ 18:46 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (198.50.147.10)

I think it sucks that this quakecon everyone goes home with zero money, except like eight people tops? Players are used to coming home breaking even or profiting, but this time everyone goes home with a dent in their wallet, unable to win anything to cover costs. Hopefully next year we don't get some gimmicky event and there can be a normal tournament. All the events before had money going to a lot of people, this time it's barely any. The winner take all thing is really lame when there's one quake lan a year

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<< Comment #50 @ 20:13 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #35

If Tox manages to win the Duel final, MD goes home with a cool $40,000 :D

No pressure. ;)

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<< Comment #41 @ 19:35 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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MailmanMel

I haven't dug through the rulebook. Can players be switched in the first duel competiton?

Averagers has a great dueller line-up so could they send fazz in for the first round and dem0n for the second and so forth, depending on who there opponents are?

<< Comment #43 @ 19:43 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #41

I hope they can switch them from map to map. That'd be sick as fuck.

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inspectre - Reply to #43

Pretty sure duelers can only be swapped between rounds. Once selected, the chosen dueler must play all 3 maps.

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<< Comment #48 @ 20:00 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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Mirio - Reply to #41

Yes

http://cdnstatic.bethsoft.com/quakecon.org/20...-Rules.pdf

Rule 1.7.1.4

<< Comment #52 @ 20:22 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #41

1.7.1.2 Team Player Participation
In the Duel Stage at the beginning of each of their Duel Division matches, each team will declare one of their Team Players as the dueler representing their team.

<< Comment #143 @ 08:24 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Pawulon - Reply to #52

I hope that Strenx will play at least one match <3

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magadog

IS THIS THE FUTURE OF TOMORROW??!?

Edited by magadog at 20:23 CDT, 24 July 2015

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<< Comment #72 @ 01:50 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Lacceh - Reply to #53

in duel? nah... I hope he does well tho :>

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<< Comment #56 @ 21:39 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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sofiene

no ESR bets ? :(

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #56

Duellers haven't been decided yet, no brackets or seedings

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jamalz - Reply to #58

duel bracket up

http://challonge.com/qc15_trimaster_duel

First match should be zorakofwar vs rapha or evil vs vodkax

Edited by jamalz at 22:45 CDT, 24 July 2015

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sleepii - Reply to #59

Ya rapha zorakwar oooooo

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<< Comment #108 @ 05:35 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #64

that's the first choice, then cypher-dkt probably

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Ephemix

The last two duelers are Bronson (95% certainty) and Zereck

For what it's worth

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Terifire - Reply to #65

Is Bronson Vo0, or is that just a weird rumor I've heard?

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Anonymous (213.46.28.75) - Reply to #101

Vo0 did play 1 time 5 days ago in 1 year...would be awesome he goes play again !

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butcher_kgp - Reply to #101

its Zar , another american dueler.

<< Comment #66 @ 23:52 CDT, 24 July 2015 >>

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phy1um

Ok so the seeding goes:

Cypher, Rapha, Dahang, Evil, Tox, Cooller, ...

I was getting ready to complain, but it's actually just QCon last year with Rapha boosted up to above Dahang after he won their recent showmatch. Not sure if I agree with this, especially with Rapha jumping up so high despite the rest just going on last year's results, but it could be worse.

Can someone smart tell me how much harder it is for Break to win with Tox and Cooller seeding below Dahang? What about Averagers?

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inspectre - Reply to #66

Round 1
Cypher - dkt
rapha - ZorakWar
DaHanG - Doomsd4y
evil - Vodkax
Tox - Effortless
coolleR - Bronson
Fazz - Twitch
chance - Zereck

So in round 1, dahang, tox, cooller, and fazz should all be heavy favorites. Fazz probably has the easiest matchup (of the four top teams) and should be the least likely to drop a map.

If we assume the 1-8 seeds all sweep 3-0 (as they did in TDM and CTF), the second round will look as follows...

Round 2
Cypher - Tox
rapha - coolleR
DaHanG - Fazz
evil - chance
dkt - Effortless
ZorakWar - Bronson
Doomsd4y - Twitch
Vodkax - Zereck

Obviously they all have tough matchups, but it is interesting to see that dahang and fazz will be facing off at this stage. Only the winner will likely have a chance at passing MD in the team standings.

Assuming tox loses to cypher, either Break or Avg will have closed the gap on MD. If dahang wins, Break will be down at most 2 points overall (at best tied). If Fazz wins, avg will be down at worst 3 points (at best down 1 point).

I'm not going to go into too many more scenarios/rounds because there are so many possibilities with players dropping maps and potential upsets.

I did want to touch on the potential evil vs chance matchup for a second though. They faced each other in an extremely tense battle at quakecon 2013 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7nPn6KsgGo). If chance were to pull the upset, tox may have to face evil in the 3rd or 4th round. This outcome could present another hurdle for MD.

Basically, tox has to go 2-2 for the other teams to have a chance. Dahang and cooller probably have to go at least 3-1 with favorable map scores, and Fazz probably has to go undefeated for his team to win. If tox has a meltdown and goes 1-3 or even 0-4, then the whole tournament blows wide open for Break, Avg, and 102.

Edited by inspectre at 02:21 CDT, 25 July 2015

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A1RMAN - Reply to #68

Round 2
Cypher - Tox
rapha - coolleR

you could just left it here without any words

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<< Comment #78 @ 02:15 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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magadog - Reply to #68

If this is accurate, gj.

Coollers team has more points than AVG, so idk why you're saying he has to win more than Fazz?

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inspectre - Reply to #78

Yes you are correct ... 102 is ahead of Avg in the overall standings by 1 point. Idk why I had a little brain fart there, but I edited my comment to reflect the correct standings. :)

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simonov - Reply to #68

Created a mockup tournament in challonge with that seedings. So unless something extraordinary happens (like vodkax beating evil or doomsd4y beating dahang) we will have following games in round 2:
cypher - tox
rapha - cooller
dahang - fartie
http://take.ms/rwkxb

Let's assume again, that nothing unusual will happen (like cooller beating rapha or spartie beating dahang). Then we will have this matchups in round 3:
rapha - evil
cypher - dahang
http://take.ms/5jy8c

Fourth round according to seedings:
cypher - rapha
dahang - cooller
http://take.ms/b9h1s

With that seedings ending score (assuming no maps would be thrown by higher seeding opponent) would be like that:
cypher - 20
rapha - 15
dahang - 15
evil - 15
tox - 15
cooller - 10
fazz/spartie - 10
chance - 10
...

So Meltdown would win ez, second place - Break, third - iG, fourth - 102, fifth - avg.

Let's hope for upsets.

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johnny83 - Reply to #79

So if tox get 15 points then MD get another 8000$ even if another player win?

If so, 102 should have won Grim Dungeons to make tournament more tight or Break should have won Japanese Castles.

Edited by johnny83 at 02:49 CDT, 25 July 2015

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inspectre - Reply to #79

Wow! Thanks for this nice addition.

I must admit that I'm really hoping to see some close 2-1 matches and exciting upsets to throw a wrench in some of those match-ups though. Can't wait! :)

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simonov - Reply to #84

Then again, in case of 2-1 matches it is safe to assume that tox will get one map here and there. There is virtually no chance that MD will miss its triathlon win.

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<< Comment #70 @ 01:29 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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adrenal1ne

Maybe breaking the curse pertains to dahang finally winning duel at qcon...(hype)

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gienon - Reply to #70

Or not rushing too much.

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Lacceh

inb4 stream lags

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Badb0y - Reply to #73

deactivate chat. it help a bit.

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<< Comment #74 @ 01:51 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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temporon

I meant to post my general thoughts on QuakeCon before it started, but here goes!

It's been exciting so far, and the game mode I'm most interested in--duel--hasn't even started yet!

Some pros of the Swiss Triathlon format are that players can completely focus on one mode per day, and an extra kind of importance is given to each map, as winning a map despite losing the set gives you points, and it is to each player/team's advantage that they both win and score as high as possible (in case tie-breakers are needed) per map.

Some cons are that a team's result for a mode depends on their shape on that single day, and that, in a way, the format doesn't allow for a logical progression throughout the tournament. The points-per-map provision takes a bit away from the importance of a single match. And, only first place gets any money.

I don't like how first seed plays middle seed, and middle seed plays last seed--this seems to be a side-effect of the Swiss Triathlon format, which maintains a score per team, per round, and considers relative scores for matches past the first round.

Averagers has put in a lot of hard work, and I'm happy to see the good results that they've earned so far. Perhaps found Em! would have been better served by sticking with sparks and honing their play as a team instead of juggling their lineup, but maybe not. Chemistry across all team members is very important, and I hope to see the interview with found Em! that they indicated they are happy to do at QuakeCon.

These are the duel matches I'd like to see happen:

rapha vs cooller for old times' sake
rapha vs tox as a rematch of last year
cooller vs evil
cooller vs cypher
zorakwar vs dkt
zorakwar vs at least one of cooller, tox, fazz

My general impressions on the duellers is that they aren't in quite as good shape as they are generally coming into QuakeCon. Cypher and evil have been lacking practice, and while rapha has put in more duel practice than for last year's QuakeCon, he's been losing just a bit more than I'm comfortable with--I have the same opinion on DaHang's win percentage in practice duels. Cooller has put in a good amount of practice, and I hope he performs. While a lot of positive feelings about tox's chances are circulating, I don't think he will do as well as many are predicting. Keep in mind that he did upset an out-of-shape rapha last year, then lost 3-0 to both DaHang and evil. tox should win his first two duels however, which puts Meltdown in a great position to win the Tri-Master tournament.

Please show a player cam or film the players themselves in the tournament area--it's great to see and hear the person behind the in-game name.

I just hope QuakeCon continues to happen each year, year after year...

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johnny83

What's the reason of not allowing to play all players, not just one player per team?

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qwih - Reply to #75

harder to arrange\manage i guess. There was time for a massive 64 player event with 8 rounds given duel lasts 10 minutes instead of 20 tho.

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daytripper - Reply to #107

They could easily have done this, and at least the Swiss system would have worked properly.

Problem is that the greater majority of the players present aren't duelers, due to the how the event was set up.

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mouse*

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #76

O?

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A1RMAN - Reply to #81

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johnny83 - Reply to #85

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A1RMAN - Reply to #93

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mouse* - Reply to #94

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close enough

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crucci

Are they going to stream two matches per round? Since bo3 duel takes up to 30min to finish compared to CTF and TDM's 60min, they should be able to stream 8 games plus grand masters final, correct?

Edited by crucci at 02:13 CDT, 25 July 2015

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magadog - Reply to #77

I hope so. Someone that looked like an admin in the twitch qcon chat said they will stream 8 duels tomorrow so theres a chance

If round two has
Cypher - Tox
rapha - coolleR
Then we better see fucking both games.

Edited by magadog at 02:18 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Sandslash

I want to see;

evil - cypher 1/2 finals
tox - rapha 1/2 finals

evil - tox finals
cypher - rapha for 3rd place

and being a hardcore evil fan, i want tox to win it

Edited by Sandslash at 02:44 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Cwiru

duel in last day, good move. No excuses for jet lag

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A1RMAN - Reply to #87

afaik 3rd is the worst day of acclimatization

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yoyoman - Reply to #89

not if ur on adderal

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<< Comment #129 @ 07:32 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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breakfull

I cannot believe I am the only one who is disappointed about this mixed tournament shit... I just want duel I don't care about some shit CTF and ultra-boring TDM...

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b0ltzmann - Reply to #129

And you got duel. No one forces you to watch the other parts of the tournament. Why do you fuccbois always complain about everything?

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #129

Do you think all these players would fly over to the states just for a petty duel tournament? I think it was a great choice to gather as many players as possible.

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stier

I guess I am late to the party, but who will duel for avg? Fazz or Demon? I thought Demon was the even better dueller ;)

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A1RMAN - Reply to #91

fuzz

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stier - Reply to #92

Ok, checked his account, looks like he stepped it up the past few months.

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Bob

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Edited by Bob at 11:36 CDT, 26 June 2024

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A1RMAN - Reply to #97

If.

I don't think he has to pay them anything, cause they have no connection to his duel performance. They even can't help him as training partners.

Well, it's gonna be interesting to hear from Flair - how did their tdm and ctf go. I hope they had fun.

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Bob - Reply to #98

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Edited by Bob at 11:36 CDT, 26 June 2024

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xemorx - Reply to #98

if evil wins at duels then money according to the rules will be given $2k directly to each member, and it's only up to flair's crew good will whether they give smth to evil. after all they made evil possible at qcon which costs a lot of enjoyment :D
the second share of 8k can by no way come to evil at this point

Edited by xemorx at 05:15 CDT, 25 July 2015

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scowl - Reply to #103

they secon 8k can come to by no way come to evil at this point

I don't even ...

The rules say that the prize money of the Grand Master duel is given to the individual player competing in it. So evil obviously wouldn't need to share this with his mates.

You are correct about the Duel stage of the triathlon. Each team member gets $2k. So if anything, evil's team mates could decide to give the money to evil, not the other way around.

Edited by scowl at 05:17 CDT, 25 July 2015

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xemorx - Reply to #106

but how could he participate in Grand Master duel if his team can no more take the 1st two places?
as far as i can get it from the rules, the two top teams (obviously by the overall point score earned at triathlon) will determine two individuals to battle on, that's it.

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Skvall - Reply to #115

" the two top teams (obviously by the overall point score earned at triathlon) "

no its top two duelers from duel only

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xemorx - Reply to #162

i very much hope so

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scowl - Reply to #97

I wonder if evil is giving anything to his team if he walks away with $16k? :o

According to the rules, the prize money of the triathlon's duel stage is shared among all 4 team members.
So, if anything, evil's 3 team mates would give the money to him, not the other way around.

However, the rules also say that the prize money of the Grand Master duel is given to the individual player competing in it. So evil obviously
wouldn't need to share this with his mates.

edit: The first part was covered by xemorx above.

Edited by scowl at 05:14 CDT, 25 July 2015

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xemorx - Reply to #104

:P

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mouse* - Reply to #104

tox said on stream he would share the triathlon money and keep the duel money

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Bob - Reply to #110

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Edited by Bob at 11:37 CDT, 26 June 2024

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iavoal - Reply to #111

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Tebeg - Reply to #110

Tox not sharing triathlon money would be $$$$$

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xemorx - Reply to #113

no, it would be $$$$$$$$$$

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Tebeg - Reply to #114

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Anonymous (78.53.175.112)

Which type of monitor is qcon using in the quake tourney? saw benq on a pic of spartie. 120 hz? 144 hz even?

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jukkhop - Reply to #128

Last year Benq sponsored the event with XL2420Z as to promote their new model. I'm guessing that.

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skint

Is duel going to be played in the same format as the TDM and CTF? Neither of which I had a clue how it worked.

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[mash] - Reply to #119

It's like they're doing it on purpose. You can't even see who's playing under the team names.

way2overcomplicate things.

Edited by [mash] at 07:17 CDT, 25 July 2015

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b0ltzmann - Reply to #123

That's because formally, the teams pick their player before each match. i.e. It's not just Tox playing, it's team Meltdown playing represented by Tox

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harosh

I love how loads of you are busy trying to reconcile the rules in your minds... you think you know how it works but you're not 100%

You are reading all the above comments and trying to fathom it all out - all so amusing for harosh

Does the dueller get the $? are there 2 duel prizes to go for? so does the player that has the most success in duel triathlon section go to play in the final duel grandmaster duel cup?

I can almost hear the cogs turning as I type this

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xemorx - Reply to #120

hi shrink, long time no see :S

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harosh - Reply to #121

lie down and relax.... now tell me about your mother..

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[mash]

I don't get the brackets. Is it single-elim, double-elim, round robin? What?

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kaboom - Reply to #122

swiss system

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[mash] - Reply to #124

Any idea why they would go with such a system when there's only 16 teams?

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #126

So top players and teams meet each other in relatively early stage of the tourney

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kobe_08

TOXINATOR! DESTROY!

<< Comment #133 @ 07:37 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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liveth

so we will see only 4 duels? if so, thats very sad

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kaboom - Reply to #133

+ Grand Masters Duel Final

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Terifire - Reply to #133

8 actually, + finals

<< Comment #135 @ 07:50 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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syXzor

For me at least, Quakecon begins now... Let's hope all this TDM/CTF was actually worth it in the end, because it surely wasn't that much fun to watch. One can only hope it'll bring a refreshing extra nerve to the duel competition, now that they have their whole team depend on them. I think we're in for a treat today, with less "rage throws" and more epic comebacks.

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weltschmerz - Reply to #135

Seriously. Merely one day duel is like coming in your pants because you couldn't open the zipper fast enough.

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Zarathustra - Reply to #137

- Weltschmerz.

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mcdaddysandwich

where in the blue fuck is my hero strenx?

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xemorx - Reply to #136

in the shadow of cypher obviously

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weltschmerz - Reply to #136

Massaging cyphers gaming muscle.

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b0ltzmann - Reply to #140

So a brane massage?

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iavoal - Reply to #159

Some would say, Cypher is a cocky player.

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<< Comment #141 @ 08:05 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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puritan '

who the fuck cares about the system, just show tox pov and it'll be fine

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Memento_Mori

Any feedback on the interviews? Admittedly, I did a terrible job at dreamhack (I feel bad anytime I see the videos), but I hope this time around is a bit better.

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<< Comment #145 @ 08:30 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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skint - Reply to #142

speak up a bit, probably just softly spoken

Edited by skint at 08:31 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Badb0y - Reply to #142

you did the interviews?

just try thats fine for us. let them talk a bit.

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HustLah - Reply to #142

i think the volume is too low

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weltschmerz - Reply to #142

Too little diversity. How often exactly have we seen those winner-takes-it-all guys now?

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #149

I heard two constraints that lead to that:

- interviewed ppl should be from matches that have been or are about to be streamed (to try and tell a meaningful story)

- post match interviews are done only with the winners (to not be an ass with the players)

That lead to MD being there most of the time. Hopefully today there's more variety.

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A1RMAN - Reply to #153

Fuck rules.

Get COOLLER and STRENX and interview them together.

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dru1d - Reply to #154

..and tell deliberate murder that strenx called them all gay. We need drama damnit!

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Zarathustra - Reply to #154

YES YES YES YES YES MAN

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weltschmerz - Reply to #153

Guessed about as much, but still. It would have been awesome to see some of those people that are pretty much consistently online but hardly playing any lans. Pavel, clawz and whonot. It's not often that you got that many prolific players together on one spot.

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iavoal - Reply to #153

Fuck the rules. Dont be so formal. Nobody wants to hear all this default stuff ('they're the favorites, but we'll show our best, blah-blah"). Get some nerves on the surface. Troll them.

Create a conflict. Try to get some show going, interview F'em and Sparks at the very time. Interview Evil and Cypher (somebody could be a translator for Evil). Interview Pavel and Strenx, they've had such a nice emotional past).

Interview Rapha, he's used to that.And interview Fazz a lot, the camera sure loves the Bubbles)

Edited by iavoal at 09:53 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #176

Thanks for the feedback guys. I will see what 'I can do. Just realize, I do not run the show, and other people are deciding who to interview when.

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Badb0y - Reply to #187

your rapha interview is very good.

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syXzor - Reply to #187

Yeah the Rapha interview was brilliant. :)

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Skvall - Reply to #153

Haha I love that you are doing an interview right Now with Dahang (who lost) and ask about the game against cooller (that wasnt on the stream). :D

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daytripper - Reply to #153

Journalists shouldn't try to be nice guys. ;)

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jamalz - Reply to #142

Write down your questions before you ask them to the players.

Here are my questions/comments:

Toxjq: Nice fucking beard, you look like that nigga on the show vikings, did you grow it out to scare mofos?
Rapha: Do you blame z4 for scaring away the good ctf players?
Cypher: What were you thinking adding strenx to your fucking team, lmfao.
Cooller: I love you baby. Will you sign my ass?
Dahang: Stop fucking choking in the duel grand finales already.

Edited by jamalz at 08:39 CDT, 25 July 2015

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pz - Reply to #151

Tox: effortless got banned for cheating in 2013, will you spank him even harder?

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iavoal - Reply to #151

Cooller: Lets dream together?

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b0ltzmann - Reply to #142

Maybe try to come up with a variety of questions and ask them to specific players. No need for each player one by one to give their generic "feelings" about the game, they're all saying pretty much the same thing.

It's too late for this now, but maybe you can do it with players - given your constraints, ask players about the strengths / weaknesses of their opponents and what they will do to counter them, what they expect, etc. Gives you a good opportunity to follow up on those questions if you interview the same person later (whether the match was as they expected, any surprises, etc)

Edit: Bringing up history is also a great way to make questions interesting, and to let viewers know about the players.

e.g. Cooller, your last QuakeCon was in 2011...

... how has your playstyle changed since then?
... why did you decide to come back this year?
... have your 102 teammates influenced you somehow?

etc.

Edited by b0ltzmann at 09:21 CDT, 25 July 2015

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10bithamster - Reply to #142

So far so good. To make it even better you could:-

- Interview more players (where is Cooller interview?? :D)
- Prepare more questions for each interview

Thanks for the effort and being awesome as usual :)

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qwih - Reply to #142

Mic closer to your mouth + more diversity on the players. Wanna know what the others have to say about their trip\expierience at qcon.

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Anonymous (80.110.65.4) - Reply to #142

it s not ur volume being too low, u were not speaking in the mic! we barely understood a single word u said! (in fact i, in the inteviews i watched, i couldn't undsrstand a single sentence u said :( )

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #183

Thanks

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Zarathustra - Reply to #189

Please don't just ask whatever the situation/circumstance demands of you! I would love to hear you guys speak of more personal things or in a more personal manner! Like others said, please try to remember to keep the mic in front of your mouth while speaking :-) Ask whatever comes up inside of you, be spontaneous, be light hearted and go for questions which allow for more personal answers than just "yeah, feeling great, won the match.". Appreciating all you do, keep on having fun

<< Comment #182 @ 10:09 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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XPEHOPE3 - Reply to #142

Can you plz provide all the interview timestamps from VODs?

<< Comment #147 @ 08:32 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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yoyoman

My predictions -
Bronze final - tox vs evil (50/50 chance)
Grand final - rapha vs cypher (45/55 chance)

Both games will be very close if tox is hitting his rails.

Edited by yoyoman at 09:06 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Badb0y - Reply to #147

1. Cypher
2. Rapha
3. Evil, Dahang
Cooller, Toxic, Strenx, Spart1e, Demon

or completley different :)

<< Comment #152 @ 08:38 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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nemecel

Cooller already won.

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Badb0y

is it only 1 player from 1 team?

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10bithamster - Reply to #155

Yes. Teams can use different players for each round afaik, though this would likely be counter productive to the teams overall performance in most cases.

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A1RMAN - Reply to #165

Yep. Just not enough matches to play. Pavel could play against weaker opponents.
Fuck, pasha on qcon and can't play.

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Badb0y - Reply to #167

i wanted to see pavel und strenx. but i guess i will not happened.

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Anonymous (77.253.94.216)

should be 2 players from every team ://

<< Comment #168 @ 09:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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iavoal

Anybody knows, if EGB have bets on QCON duel yet?
Couldnt find it there.

<< Comment #178 @ 10:01 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (72.202.205.236)

this is a great opportunity for some lan duels between all players. hopefully somebody can organize some non-tournament exhibition stuff.

<< Comment #179 @ 10:04 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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A1RMAN - Reply to #178

Alexey A

<< Comment #173 @ 09:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Pill_

so will the duel grand final be today as well?

<< Comment #190 @ 10:27 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #173

Following the completion of the Swiss Triathlon Tournament, the top two ranked teams from the Duel
Stage will be selected to compete in a best of five (Bo5) match. Each qualifying team will nominate one
player from their team to compete in the Grand Master Duel Finals. The victor of the final will claim
$8,000 individually.

1.7.2.1 Grand Master Map Selection
The Grand Master Duel Finals will utilize Best of Five (Bo5) Pick, Pick, Pick, Pick, Pick map

Yes.

<< Comment #193 @ 10:50 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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zetman - Reply to #190

I have no fucking idea why you quoted that part, idiot.

Format: Grand Master Duel Finals
Date: July 25, 2015

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<< Comment #195 @ 10:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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palatka - Reply to #193

i like your style, friend

<< Comment #198 @ 10:57 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Zarathustra - Reply to #193

What the fuck is your problem. Or are you just joking... :-)?

<< Comment #205 @ 11:11 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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palatka - Reply to #198

well to be fair it was the most inefficient way to answer a yes or no question

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<< Comment #691 @ 18:05 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (72.202.205.236) - Reply to #205

other than 'yes'.

or 'no'.

<< Comment #199 @ 11:09 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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vanqu1sh

lol, gg zorak :>

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<< Comment #200 @ 11:09 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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MailmanMel

Zorak ... enough said

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<< Comment #201 @ 11:09 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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gbmaster

wp zorak

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<< Comment #202 @ 11:09 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Mirio

raffer lel

<< Comment #203 @ 11:09 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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HustLah

Z O R A K
O
R
A
K

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<< Comment #204 @ 11:10 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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g0uken

LOL! sick comeback, damn.

<< Comment #206 @ 11:13 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (178.148.34.155)

ZORAK
O
R
A
K

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<< Comment #207 @ 11:14 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208)

I am a tox cypher fan...ive been watching zorak....he is not in the level but his foward play style counter rapha's defensive style well....

<< Comment #209 @ 11:16 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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palatka - Reply to #207

signed, alchemist03

<< Comment #208 @ 11:14 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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flocks

nice cam layout...

You know, maybe production could fuck around with this shit when it's, oh I don't know... NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF A LIVE MATCH

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<< Comment #226 @ 11:41 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #208

LOL

<< Comment #210 @ 11:20 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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nex1 '

Rapha's form is shit. Or is it his usual starting bad form?

<< Comment #211 @ 11:24 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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nex1 ' - Reply to #210

Or maybe, he intentionally threw the first to get easier fights later on :P

<< Comment #213 @ 11:29 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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A1RMAN - Reply to #211

Or zorak can quake.

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<< Comment #231 @ 11:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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nex1 ' - Reply to #213

That, too.

<< Comment #212 @ 11:29 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #210

He just needs to fuck around with mouse accel and then restart his pc 12 times. I think It's some kind of tradition.

<< Comment #215 @ 11:31 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #212

Such an unusual thing for a really religious dude to be superstitious.

<< Comment #270 @ 11:58 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208) - Reply to #210

Its zorak cause zorak always make rapha mistake who usually never make mistake....

<< Comment #214 @ 11:29 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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cha0z_

btw, why no DDK? It was firstly announced that he will cast with zoot? What happened?

<< Comment #235 @ 11:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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M1zzu ' - Reply to #214

you might be confusing this for the facey pre-quakecon tournaments from two weeks ago, where ddk did indeed cast with zoot.

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<< Comment #273 @ 11:59 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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cumrag - Reply to #214

ddk too expensive -twitch chat

<< Comment #216 @ 11:32 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

so proud of zorak, I had tears when he fell into the lava, kid had him. HAD HIM. RAPHA WAS ABOUT TO GET RETIRED BY THE NEW BLOOD.

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<< Comment #217 @ 11:35 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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butcher_kgp - Reply to #216

he tilted because he realized rapha has tilted. :P

<< Comment #218 @ 11:35 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Terifire

They should really just show the matches that haven't finished yet, instead of talking about what just happened (we saw).

<< Comment #219 @ 11:38 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx

WHO THE ONE FROM 4 NEWBS STOLE A MAP FROM COOLLER

<< Comment #220 @ 11:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Terifire - Reply to #219

Nobody?

<< Comment #223 @ 11:40 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #220

now it's fine, for a minute there was a wrong score with the middle map lost by cooller...

<< Comment #221 @ 11:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo '

ffs i dont care about raphas boring analysis. show the god damn games idiots

<< Comment #239 @ 11:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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kevz - Reply to #221

really? the only guy this entire tournament that can give good detailed answers? :p

<< Comment #252 @ 11:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #239

Id rather watch another duel game than rapha saying obvious things

<< Comment #222 @ 11:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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trippy

cooller vs rapha
tox vs cypher
fazz vs dahang

and we can only watch one :/

<< Comment #227 @ 11:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #222

dAMN, tHIS mUSTN't hAPPEN

Edited by xemorx at 11:43 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #224 @ 11:41 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx

wonder who was playing vs evil

<< Comment #242 @ 11:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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A1RMAN - Reply to #224

vodkax

<< Comment #244 @ 11:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #242

nashx chelovex

Edited by xemorx at 11:48 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #228 @ 11:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

These faggots better show tox vs cypher AND dahang vs cooller

Edited by jamalz at 11:52 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #230 @ 11:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #228

i think i doesnt work that way. lol 4 games streamed in a day

<< Comment #236 @ 11:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #230

only 4 games? I dunno how these guys keep their jobs. They must blow a lot of dick

<< Comment #238 @ 11:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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phy1um - Reply to #230

They said they'd try to get some games delayed after round 1 to stream more just before Rapha v Zorak started.

Edited by phy1um at 11:46 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #238

thats excelent news. i hope they keep their word then

<< Comment #232 @ 11:44 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Derb_

Sorry Memento, but please stfu.

Always a terrible production with Quakecon. What an embarrasment for the community.

Wow. One match streamed and another 15 to next one.

Edited by Derb_ at 11:45 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #234 @ 11:45 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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butcher_kgp - Reply to #232

y u mad? theres no other game going on during the interview.

<< Comment #241 @ 11:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Zarathustra - Reply to #232

The organisation of the whole duel tourney just seems so unsatisfying... It's not Memento's fault... He's just the receiving end of our rage...! Maybe we'll get lucky and see more than a single match-up in round 2... though I don't hink so! >_>

<< Comment #269 @ 11:58 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (85.138.167.150) - Reply to #232

does memento not work for id? seems so

<< Comment #788 @ 20:13 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #269

He's also sync's wife and hired yakumo

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<< Comment #256 @ 11:54 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #232

Calm down son. MM is sure not a showman, but he's okay.

If only he could add some spice in his questions, using these little dramas that our tiny community have: fem-bricks, pavel-strenx, cooller-strenx, cypher-strenx, *-strenx, z4-dkt, freelancers-dkt, russians-linkin, eu-usa.

You dont have to speak only bout passed games, speak bout some painful moments, use old dramas and provoke some new ones)

Edited by iavoal at 11:59 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Derb_ - Reply to #256

Sorry.

Like Zara mentioned, we're venting towards MM and they probably told him to keep going for as long as possible.

Year after year we get shit production on quake-related events. Just sad to see for our beloved game bro.

Production team might as well throw in the Rotating Quake logo to rub salt in the wound.

Despicable.

<< Comment #617 @ 17:22 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #264

It's pretty simple. The tournament was scheduled in a non-stream-friendly way. It was done like this, because this was actually a pretty efficient way to run the tournament (easy to explain to the players, easy to keep somewhat in schedule etc). A stream/televised event is constructed differently from the ground up, and whatever a few people are going to try to do, it won't change the facts.

Now about the interviews being dull, I see what you mean. It takes the right personality to be funny and entertaining, and I guess I'm not that kind of guy. Also, I did not really put any thoughts on this before hand (I was not expecting to do anything at this quakecon besides chilling). Now I tried to keep them interesting by letting the players talk about the game (which I thought people would care about), but I realize this won't please an angry crowd, who feel they have missed on a lot of action and social interactions (which is the case).

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<< Comment #259 @ 11:55 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #232

Memento tries to imrpove, that's what matters. He's not some random fuck

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<< Comment #268 @ 11:57 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Derb_ - Reply to #259

see comment #265 :)

<< Comment #233 @ 11:45 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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TUMULT

bets??

<< Comment #237 @ 11:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dru1d

Oh for fuck sake. A quick break? they showed one fucking game. So this is how its going to be? One game a fucking hour?

edit: IVE EATEN MY FUCKING DORITOS ALREADY

Edited by dru1d at 11:48 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #240 @ 11:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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butcher_kgp

cooller vs rapha will probably be more entertaining though cypher vs tox will probably the better game.

<< Comment #243 @ 11:47 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Zarathustra - Reply to #240

better game =/= more entertaining? >_>

<< Comment #253 @ 11:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #240

It's cooller vs. dahang, not cooller vs. rapha.

<< Comment #271 @ 11:59 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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gote321523

Why didn't they delay the start times somewhat. Better than 30 mins of 1 game and some 15 minute interview gah.

<< Comment #245 @ 11:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Bob

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Edited by Bob at 11:37 CDT, 26 June 2024

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<< Comment #247 @ 11:49 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Normalised

looks like
evil - fazz
cooller - dahang
cypher - tox
rapha - chance

<< Comment #248 @ 11:49 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Mirio

Grand masters at 4:00 CEST? Fuck you willits and your raffle

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<< Comment #251 @ 11:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #248

does this mean in 8 hours from now??

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scowl - Reply to #251

9 hours from now.

As is tradition at quakecon, a big "fuck you" from the organization to more than half of their stream audience.

Edited by scowl at 11:55 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #276 @ 12:01 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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fau - Reply to #254

All other games are at hours very good for eu audience. I guess they need something for their main stage too?

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scowl - Reply to #276

9 pm local time? That's probably when everybody has left already -- because the more important stuff on the main stage like the raffle are already over. If they did it at ~7 pm local time, I wouldn't be complaining.

<< Comment #281 @ 12:18 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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ZeriouS - Reply to #254

Well then, enough time to get drunk and then rant at the event!

<< Comment #324 @ 13:21 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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kevz - Reply to #254

snort some coke and stick around, i mean you are a real gamer right?

<< Comment #267 @ 11:57 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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palatka - Reply to #248

10 hours for 8 games :::DDDDD

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<< Comment #278 @ 12:06 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #248

Edited by dru1d at 12:06 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #250 @ 11:51 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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phy1um

CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK FOR MEMENTO:

Memento, you should have actually talked to Rapha more rather than just doing an analysis with him. It was good clearing up his item plays on Sinister, but after that it dragged a bit. Ask him about the tournament and the players. Talk to him about Zorak in a more general way - "how will he do for the rest of the day?" or something.

Most people couldn't have done technical talk of what happened in the game like that, and I like listening to Rapha talk about his games, but tone it down a bit :D

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<< Comment #255 @ 11:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Normalised - Reply to #250

nah, I want more techinical. :)

i don't care how he feels about lunch or whatever.

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<< Comment #275 @ 12:00 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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phy1um - Reply to #255

I'm definitely not saying to talk about random shit. Some technical is good, but so is some more general discussion about the tournament and other players. This is the only chance we get to hear what these players think about what's going on while it's happening.

This is especially true if the interviews happen between matches in the same round. Keep thinks interesting and moving, don't get bogged down in small details.

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<< Comment #753 @ 19:26 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Memento_Mori - Reply to #275

What do you think pf the second interview with rapha?

<< Comment #982 @ 05:54 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #753

Much better, thx for your efforts!

<< Comment #296 @ 12:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qzcybo - Reply to #250

I felt the same, too much "nerding in specific map". Would be more interesting hearing how he prepered and more how he feel about this quakecon.

<< Comment #257 @ 11:55 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Fulgore

We're not gonna see Rapha vs Cooller?!?

I wanna see Cypher & Tox also obviously, but why not both? =(

Edited by Fulgore at 11:55 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #265 @ 11:57 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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A1RMAN - Reply to #257

They've changed the brackets, rapha is not going against cooller now.

<< Comment #277 @ 12:02 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Fulgore - Reply to #265

I see now, good.

Still some great games we won't get to see:
1. Cooller vs DaHang
2. Evil vs Fazz
3. Rapha vs Chance

<< Comment #258 @ 11:55 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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sonic

show the matches going on currently you incompetent fools

<< Comment #261 @ 11:56 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #258

There are no matches going on. The first round has finished and the second round hasn't started yet.

Edited by scowl at 11:56 CDT, 25 July 2015

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oskid

Why can't we see more matches per round? How hard it is to turn on another stream even without casters. This is retarded

Edited by oskid at 11:57 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #274 @ 11:59 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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nawak - Reply to #260

this.
i told this multiply times per fcking quakecon

<< Comment #262 @ 11:56 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dCoy

Stop with the interviewing and give us some damn QUAKE! Watching a couple matches a day followed by a long, boring drawn out interview for no reason blows!

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<< Comment #263 @ 11:57 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Pawulon

Order pizzas to ESR pls

<< Comment #266 @ 11:57 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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sonic

GREETINGS FROM DOMINOES PIZZA THAT WAS THE BEST SOUNDING ROCKET JUMP EVER

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<< Comment #272 @ 11:59 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

Why do we need to see 3 games from Duel round 4? That shit is already decided, we just need 1 game, the final game between the players that HAVENT lost.

WE NEED TO SEE 3 GAMES FROM DUEL ROUND 2.

NOT FROM DUEL ROUND 4

WHO THE FUCK IS RUNNING THIS SHIT SHOW?

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<< Comment #414 @ 14:55 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Tebeg - Reply to #272

Aaaaand it turned out it was not yet decided.

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jamalz - Reply to #414

yea i honestly fucking hate the fucking swiss right now

<< Comment #490 @ 15:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Tebeg - Reply to #470

Such a clusterfuck. No idea what is going on. And production with mistakes like Rapha - Cypher and Evil - Dahang makes it even worse.

<< Comment #279 @ 12:13 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jukkhop

We are missing many awesome duels. Hopefully they'll put the demos up afterwards.

<< Comment #280 @ 12:18 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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harosh

tox's rushing on t7 is so silly

tox - relax nag damnit

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<< Comment #282 @ 12:18 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (70.31.194.177)

Cypher ruining tox by losing packets. Com_maxfps should be banned from lan shit makes you warp and make you unhittable.

Deleted by Badb0y at 12:41 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #294 @ 12:41 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (70.31.194.177)

plz tell tox to change his fps to 120 thats what cypher is doing and thats why hes hitting so much.

<< Comment #309 @ 12:58 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #294

you mean the famous cg_cyphermode 1?

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Anonymous (70.31.194.177) - Reply to #309

nah try it yourself. Theres a bunch of obscure shit with the ql netcode. Com_maxfps 250 is not the same as com_maxfps 250.00. Com_maxfps 120 from my observation made it ez for me to dodge aka have shot go thru me and rocket splash doing little damage too me. 249 fps behavior is different then 250 behavior. I was surprised at first but its true. I talked about it with rapha briefly when he was palying sparks on a duel. Sparks couldnt hit rapha at all and then i said 120 vs 250 fps and he smiled. Told me that he uses 144 fps its a good compromise. Ql netcode is fucked.

<< Comment #356 @ 14:11 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (5.147.60.233) - Reply to #343

http://cdn.miragestudio7.com/wp-content/uploa...ns-guy.jpg

<< Comment #583 @ 16:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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0x5f3759df - Reply to #343

144 is the skippiest bullshit

<< Comment #283 @ 12:24 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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daytripper

Tox clearly not a morning person.

<< Comment #292 @ 12:40 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (95.90.200.166)

I expected so much more tox :(

Very very poor performance on all three maps

<< Comment #284 @ 12:31 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dCoy

Cypher is just toying with Toxic. It's heart breaking. But, can we get some Cooller vs Buzzlightye.. I mean Dahang, now? Or any match worth watching.

<< Comment #285 @ 12:33 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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harosh

How to de-rail the tox-hype-train??

Just add cypher

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<< Comment #286 @ 12:33 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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cha0z_

nice, they stream little dahang vs cooller. :)))

<< Comment #287 @ 12:35 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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fau

Does it mean that tox is gonna get 2 lower ranked players now and finish with 3-1 record? His hitscan aim looked so bad agains cypher though :(

<< Comment #293 @ 12:41 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #287

hard to say at this point, there were plenty of 2-1s so far

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jamalz - Reply to #287

ur not supposed to zoom that much in duel for rail. Only on fresh spawns or when ur waiting around corridors (like cooller does)

Not in a fucking actual battle, that just ruins your steady aim because of the zooming effect and because you are trying to dodge at the same time (unless you are a natural flick railer)

And tox isnt a flick railer, which is why he cant hit shit in duel. He should try to rail with his normal fov in duel.

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<< Comment #316 @ 13:03 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #314

"ur not supposed to zoom that much in duel for rail"

datz right. tox's must be still in his "holding mid at infinity" mode.

<< Comment #288 @ 12:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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kolo

fucking morons show us a fazz-evil game goddamiyt

<< Comment #290 @ 12:40 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #288

The world needs a cleanse, too many crosseyed mutants in charge

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<< Comment #295 @ 12:41 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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kolo - Reply to #288

fixed :D

<< Comment #289 @ 12:40 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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cityy

Cypher still going for the GL spawn frag on blood run that was removed 4 years ago. #oldschool

<< Comment #300 @ 12:51 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #289

just like yay0 spammed osp spawns on dm6 against cypher. Old habits die hard

Edited by Meph1stoo at 12:52 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Bob

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Edited by Bob at 11:37 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #310 @ 12:59 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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XPEHOPE3 - Reply to #291

Where does one get those current stats?

<< Comment #312 @ 13:01 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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telly - Reply to #310

Add the score columns together from the brackets page for each tournament.

<< Comment #297 @ 12:49 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dCoy

LETS WATCH COOLLER V TOX!!! Battle of the old school giants. We see Rapha Dahang constantly and it's a snoozefest!

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jamalz - Reply to #297

I'd rather they fiddle with the brackets and give us:
Cypher vs Dahang + rapha vs evil

We all know cypher is going to shit on evil and dahang is going to outplay rapha.

EDIT:

Nice Rapha in da finals. Now we need Evil to own cypher for some epic shit.

Edited by jamalz at 13:41 CDT, 25 July 2015

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dCoy - Reply to #298

That's true.

I just know these interviews are also as boring as rapha v dahang.

Cypher vs Evil would still be a fun match to watch, but you've gotta admit, seeing a rematch between two old schools "Cooller vs Toxic" would be nostalgic.

<< Comment #371 @ 14:34 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Gobotz - Reply to #298

Evil wins

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butcher_kgp - Reply to #297

cypher vs evil is where the $$ at boi.

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qwih - Reply to #299

they'd get to the finals anyway

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butcher_kgp - Reply to #301

the finals is between highest scoring TEAMS I thought...evil has no chance of getting there.

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qwih - Reply to #306

nope, top2 duelers from duel tournament after swiss

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Bob - Reply to #299

.

Edited by Bob at 11:37 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #303 @ 12:54 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #302

For the points... tox vs cooller might be interesting. If cooller 3-0's him.. rofl

<< Comment #305 @ 12:55 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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butcher_kgp

if dahang wins this round I think his team will be tri-master champion.

Edited by butcher_kgp at 12:55 CDT, 25 July 2015

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qwih - Reply to #305

depends on how tox will do versus cooller and in the last round

<< Comment #311 @ 12:59 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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fau

So who's bronson again? He derailed crazys cartel :(

Edited by fau at 13:00 CDT, 25 July 2015

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qwih - Reply to #311

probably vo0

<< Comment #313 @ 13:01 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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iavoal

There is an interesting difference between Cooller, Rapha, Fazz, Tox and Dahang from one side and Cypher, Evil from the other.

The first group actually play not only for themself but for their team as well, maybe, feeling additional pressure about it.
While Yanushevsky and Orehov obviously aint give a single fuck for that "dont let ur guyz down" sheeet, not pretending to win triatlon at all. Frankly saying their surrogate "teams" played their historical role at the moment then both Cypher and Evil get to Qcon.

Edited by iavoal at 13:01 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Anonymous (2.93.230.180) - Reply to #313

It's not like we don't know that the whole purpose here is to decide the outcome between cyper and Evil, live and lan

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iavoal - Reply to #329

The whole purpose of energy transforming into the matter.

Edited by iavoal at 13:48 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #315 @ 13:02 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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daka

shit coverage

<< Comment #317 @ 13:05 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl

Coverage is so terrible. They don't actually talk about what's going on.

After the first 2 rounds, literally all the favorites have won all of their matches (according to seedings).

What do they conclude?

"A lot of upsets" (c) jehar

It's laughable.

Edited by scowl at 13:07 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #318 @ 13:16 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

fucking lagging again, WTF PRODUCTION.

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dru1d

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iavoal - Reply to #319

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xemorx - Reply to #320

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dCoy - Reply to #321

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teju__ - Reply to #325

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #328

R

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xemorx - Reply to #335

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teju__ - Reply to #338

H

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #342

I

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Venser - Reply to #344

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dru1d - Reply to #348

I

Edited by dru1d at 14:01 CDT, 25 July 2015

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flocks - Reply to #350

Howard Stern looks good in a dress.

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<< Comment #789 @ 20:15 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #350

How did you pull this of you sick fucks, we usually can't even get a "DICKS" going

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<< Comment #806 @ 20:51 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #789

I thought I was setting the bar a bit too high with "LAG" as the goal.
The collective mind is a mysterious thing.

<< Comment #323 @ 13:21 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl

Obligatory Quakecon slideshow. :) :) :)

<< Comment #326 @ 13:23 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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sofiene

How to Watch Quake-con :3

Edited by sofiene at 13:23 CDT, 25 July 2015

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pet_cia_mole - Reply to #326

Why not get a Chromecast device and stream from there?

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sofiene - Reply to #587

I cant find one where i live, plus i dont really need it, i rarely link my laptop and my TV

<< Comment #327 @ 13:23 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dakinaw

ignore

Edited by dakinaw at 13:30 CDT, 25 July 2015

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scowl - Reply to #327

It already adds the 1 map he won in round 3.

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Mirio - Reply to #327

he won first map vs dahang ;)

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dCoy - Reply to #327

It's best you acknowledge that 1 + 1 = 1 on a bun.

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flocks

Edited by flocks at 13:40 CDT, 25 July 2015

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dCoy - Reply to #333

Rapha - "Now why did they think this would be a good game?"

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<< Comment #336 @ 13:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl

... and rapha gets into round 4 with 3-0 by beating zorakwar, chance, and dahang, avoiding all European opponents.

"Alltimes lucky" (c) cooller

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<< Comment #339 @ 13:45 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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son! - Reply to #336

ya p trashy duel tournament

<< Comment #341 @ 13:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #336

smb big up there wants too much rapha in the final testamentournament

Edited by xemorx at 13:46 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #336

rapha, evil and cooller can still get into top 2 i believe. But nice observation on that easy.ish road of rapha

<< Comment #354 @ 14:10 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #346

LOLz

<< Comment #347 @ 13:59 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (5.147.60.233)

http://cdn.miragestudio7.com/wp-content/uploa...ns-guy.jpg

<< Comment #349 @ 14:00 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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bsk

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON AND NONE OF THE LINKS ABOVE ARE HELPING

:/

<< Comment #352 @ 14:04 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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ZeriouS - Reply to #349

GRAB A BEER MATE!

<< Comment #353 @ 14:06 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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bsk - Reply to #352

Are these group matches or playoffs?

<< Comment #355 @ 14:10 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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ZeriouS - Reply to #353

No clue, see above.

Going slightly offtopic - this is happening on the Bethesda event stream:

Edited by ZeriouS at 14:11 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Badb0y - Reply to #355

doom panel vod is online on bethesda stream.

it was nice and sympathic but they showed nothing new.

<< Comment #351 @ 14:02 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Larvi

Judging by the twitch chat all the people from GTV are still following Quake and actively shitposting lol

<< Comment #357 @ 14:13 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo '

COLLER 1:0 TOX

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bsk - Reply to #357

Where are you watching this?

<< Comment #363 @ 14:23 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #360

http://challonge.com/qc15_trimaster_duel , by the way its 1:1 now

<< Comment #365 @ 14:30 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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bsk - Reply to #363

So they're not showing the match at all?

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #365

nope

<< Comment #358 @ 14:20 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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vanqu1sh

absolute quake masterclass by evil. dayum

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flocks - Reply to #358

*\o/*

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kolo

E V I L
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teju__ - Reply to #359

TREX
R
E
X

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<< Comment #403 @ 14:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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rammy

E V I L
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<< Comment #364 @ 14:26 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen '

Cypher vs evil

<< Comment #366 @ 14:31 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Pill_

gg to evil, he really seemed to have figured out how cypher thinks and how to abuse that

tho that game really displayed how crappy the casting is this year, evil made a couple GENIUS plays and all we get is zorak lost hahaha jokes

Edited by Pill_ at 14:34 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #367 @ 14:33 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser

omg we missed cooller beating tox

<< Comment #369 @ 14:33 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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nsx0r - Reply to #367

Edited by nsx0r at 14:34 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #368 @ 14:33 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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kolo

evil vs dahang 4th round? should be easy!

<< Comment #372 @ 14:34 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #368

2 easy for dahang

<< Comment #370 @ 14:34 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo '

round 4:
FAZZ V COOLLER
EVIL V DAHANG
CYPHER V RAPHA

Edited by Meph1stoo at 14:34 CDT, 25 July 2015

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wrong person - Reply to #370

um... why not evil - rapha? am i not getting something?

<< Comment #380 @ 14:37 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #377

i have no clue how this works man

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<< Comment #405 @ 14:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (86.125.202.36) - Reply to #380

thats gonna be the final. and will be rape. evil showed everyone hes the best ql dueler of all time. only online? hahaha

<< Comment #390 @ 14:41 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Mirio - Reply to #380

they set cypher as winner vs evil by accident and fucked it up

should be rapha-evil

<< Comment #373 @ 14:34 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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XPEHOPE3

evil interview incoming

wonder who'd be translating

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #373

C

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T1E - Reply to #374

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cerno - Reply to #497

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Venser - Reply to #373

cooller

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #373

I think he learned how to say: "I shaft Princess good - I like" on the plane over for just such an occasion.

<< Comment #378 @ 14:36 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl

Anyone out of MD, 102, BREAK, and Averagers can still get the triathlon championship. Interesting.

Current standings:

MD 42 points
102 41 points
BREAK 41 points
avg 40 points

Edited by scowl at 14:38 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #404 @ 14:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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liveth

EVIL DID IT ON LAN .

<< Comment #379 @ 14:36 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Bob

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Edited by Bob at 11:37 CDT, 26 June 2024

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #379

so fucking tense. both in duel part of tri master, the tri master and the fight for top 2 to go to duel masters

Edited by Meph1stoo at 14:38 CDT, 25 July 2015

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jamalz - Reply to #379

ZORAK needs to come up big. He's vs toxjq. If he can fuck that nigga up, then he steals his money.

Let's go zorak. Time to go to work.

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<< Comment #394 @ 14:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Bob - Reply to #384

.

Edited by Bob at 11:37 CDT, 26 June 2024

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kolo - Reply to #384

this!

<< Comment #385 @ 14:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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fau - Reply to #379

So as long as tox wins 3-0 against zorak it's gg? I can see zorak taking a map or two.

<< Comment #381 @ 14:37 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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daka

i sure hope they'll at least collect all the demos, cause we missed a lot of games

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telly

MB 42
BR 41
DM 41
AV 40

If Tox beats Zorak Meltdown are champions.
If Tox loses and Dahang wins 3-0, Break win.
If Tox loses and Dahang loses and Fazz wins, Averagers win.
If Tox loses and Dahang loses and Cooler wins, 102 win.
If Tox loses and Dahang wins 2-1 and Cooller wins, 102 win.
If Tox loses and Dahang wins 2-1 and Fazz wins 3-0, Averagers win.
If Tox loses and Dahang wins 2-1 and Fazz wins 2-1, Break win.

Edited by telly at 15:08 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #386 @ 14:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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twister - Reply to #383

only if tox beats zorak 3-0 right?

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #383

If he loses a map and cooller wins 3:0 its a tie. Dunno whats the tiebreaker tho

<< Comment #397 @ 14:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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telly - Reply to #388

Meltdown win on a tie.

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Bob - Reply to #397

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Edited by Bob at 11:38 CDT, 26 June 2024

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telly - Reply to #408

I'm assuming if two teams are tied on points then the tie is decided by the match record between those teams. The rules aren't very clear though.

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Bob - Reply to #418

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Edited by Bob at 11:38 CDT, 26 June 2024

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telly - Reply to #446

Yeah tie with TDM and then comparing the Buchholz scores puts Meltdown ahead, I figure. Any other result would be absurd.

Edited by telly at 15:22 CDT, 25 July 2015

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xemorx - Reply to #383

so it's already for granted the prize goes to tox' team

<< Comment #387 @ 14:40 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Tebeg

Why the fuck does Cypher play Rapha and not Evil?

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jamalz - Reply to #387

dunno they confusing the shit out of me

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scowl - Reply to #387

It actually should be 1vs2 and 3v4, shouldn't it?
So evil-rapha and cypher-dahang.

I don't know what the fuck is going on.

edit: All of the tournament results were just deleted. This is funny.

Edited by scowl at 14:45 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Tebeg - Reply to #396

Yeah. But at least it's Evil - Rapha.

<< Comment #392 @ 14:41 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl

Interesting matches in round 4:

evil - rapha: winner wins $8,000 for his team and is in the grand masters final

cypher - dahang: winner (most likely) gets 2nd place and is in the grand masters final. If dahang wins, he might also get his team the triathlon championship.

~~cooller - fazz: winner might get his team the triathlon championship, depending on how tox plays~~
Apparently it's cooller-chance and fazz-bronson instead. Both of them are relevant for the overall triathlon championship.

edit: Oh, it's cooller-fazz after all? According to the standings, it shouldn't be. Probably sync just decided to have it because he wants to.

tox - zorak: If tox wins, his team wins the triathlon championship. If he loses, dahang/cooller/fazz get the triathlon championship for their team.

Edited by scowl at 15:00 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Pawulon - Reply to #392

There are six players with 2-1:

Dahang
Cooller
Chance
Cypher
Fazz
Bronson

so matchups are good according to swiss-tournament:
1-4 Dh - Cyp
2-5 Cll - Faz
3-6 Ch - Br

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<< Comment #393 @ 14:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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wrong person

F A Z Z
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<< Comment #395 @ 14:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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b0ltzmann

Where is your god now, Evil deniers?

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<< Comment #399 @ 14:44 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Tebeg - Reply to #395

I fucking love that he beat Cypher on LAN and there is no shitmania excuses.

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<< Comment #409 @ 14:50 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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A1RMAN - Reply to #399

+

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orrrcccus - Reply to #399

As much as I am kinda of an evil fan, I have to say that it wasn't a fair DUEL on LAN. My points are:
1. Cypher trained hard for TDM and CTF.
2. Evil announced his participation on QCon too late.

Edited by orrrcccus at 15:02 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Tebeg - Reply to #430

I don't think iGamerz trained that hard, but I might be wrong. And I don't know what your second point is about.

<< Comment #447 @ 15:11 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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orrrcccus - Reply to #440

http://www.esreality.com/post/2743926/evil-to-quakecon-2015/

<< Comment #457 @ 15:22 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Tebeg - Reply to #447

But why announcing your participation late is an excuse for other players?

<< Comment #463 @ 15:27 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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orrrcccus - Reply to #457

It's not, but we're talking about evil. You need special tactics against the bastard :).

<< Comment #460 @ 15:24 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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frs - Reply to #430

1. Cypher trained hard for TDM and CTF.

lmao

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<< Comment #468 @ 15:34 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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orrrcccus - Reply to #460

IG beat Found Em (CTF). I guess it was an accident.

Edited by orrrcccus at 15:41 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #990 @ 06:47 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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thuNDa - Reply to #430

you can't be serious...

<< Comment #401 @ 14:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen '

Donate to FaceIt for another mic

<< Comment #402 @ 14:47 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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frs

evil reminds me of ramsay from GoT, anyone else?

Edited by frs at 14:54 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #424 @ 14:58 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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AdoreSP - Reply to #402

tiny bit, but more no than yes

<< Comment #426 @ 14:58 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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tifu - Reply to #402

thought same thing!

<< Comment #438 @ 15:04 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser - Reply to #402

I thought about it lol

<< Comment #406 @ 14:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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r34Lh4t3

CA
A

<< Comment #407 @ 14:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Fulgore

Cooke: "Evil thinks he will be even better in his next match against Rapha"

R.I.P Rapha

<< Comment #420 @ 14:56 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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A1RMAN - Reply to #407

cooke made it up :D

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<< Comment #425 @ 14:58 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Tebeg - Reply to #420

Cookie*

<< Comment #428 @ 15:00 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #420

true, cooki couldn't hold on to the whole evil's message in his head :D

<< Comment #410 @ 14:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

OK IN FUCKING ORDER

WE WATCH

DAHANG VS CYPHER
FAZZ VS COOLLER

THEN ZORAK VS TOX

AND THEN RAPHA VS EVIL

THis is the most hyped match order

<< Comment #415 @ 14:56 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Mirio - Reply to #410

no cooller ((

<< Comment #411 @ 14:53 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx

HE CAN SMILE!!!

<< Comment #412 @ 14:54 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SwarmDMX

evil said nothing positive about cypher in the interview - just that he is always sneaky...

<< Comment #416 @ 14:56 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #412

not really, he acknowledged cypher 'was better' at new ztn

Edited by xemorx at 14:56 CDT, 25 July 2015

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #416

...but only because he evil wasn't used to the colors...

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Tebeg - Reply to #412

Might have been lost in translation. Cypher is not really super positive about Evil either way, so no surprise there.

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<< Comment #433 @ 15:02 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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liveth - Reply to #412

Why should he say anything positive about a guy who many times insulted evil after losing to him, calling him dumb, bot , etc ?

Edited by liveth at 15:05 CDT, 25 July 2015

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M1zzu ' - Reply to #433

Not today tho.

Edited by M1zzu at 18:33 CDT, 25 July 2015

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iavoal - Reply to #412

Well, he wasn't negative either, when Cooke said that Cypher has been playing "rat style" on a sinister, Evil even corrected him saying that Cypher just was playing accurate game. And then added with a little smile*: "Like he always does".

(*=..with me).

Edited by iavoal at 15:00 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #432 @ 15:02 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #427

'accurate' is not the right translation here ;)

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Tebeg - Reply to #432

What is?

<< Comment #437 @ 15:04 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #432

What would be better?

<< Comment #439 @ 15:05 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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twister - Reply to #437

careful.

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<< Comment #453 @ 15:14 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #439

Ah, sure.

<< Comment #472 @ 15:40 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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twister - Reply to #453

I guess its a common false friend though as accurate sounds like "akuratno" but means "tochno".

Edited by twister_ at 15:41 CDT, 25 July 2015

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iavoal - Reply to #472

Haha exactly.
These things happen to me sometimes when i use words that came in russian from other languages with a slightly different meaning or even spelling. For example, i misused "standard" once, writing "standarT" how its being said in russian, having no idea that the foreign word could be domesticated with a change.

Edited by iavoal at 17:07 CDT, 25 July 2015

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b0ltzmann - Reply to #575

standart mistake

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<< Comment #434 @ 15:03 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #427

thanks :) guess some of that got lost in the translation.

<< Comment #413 @ 14:55 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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kevz

ignoring cooller-fazz for the small chance zorak destroys toxic...!?

<< Comment #417 @ 14:56 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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wrong person

:/ i would rather watch fazz-cooller than tox-zorak

Edited by wrong person at 14:56 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #419 @ 14:56 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl

"So here are the 3 matches we'll show you:

1) cypher-dahang
2) zorak-tox because bla bla bla some stuff that isn't actually completely accurate

OK BYE SEE YOU SOON"

:D :D :D

<< Comment #421 @ 14:57 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo '

table doesnt make sense. why are 102 and break infront of avg and respect the paco when they have worse net?

<< Comment #431 @ 15:02 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #421

Buchholz is the tiebreaker I think.

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qwih - Reply to #431

it's because dahang won a match vs cooller. "Match won vs one of the opponents you are tied win" rule

Edited by qwih at 15:08 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #442

just lol

<< Comment #422 @ 14:57 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Zarathustra

Winz, offer Zorak some cashmonez and tanke ze money!!!

<< Comment #445 @ 15:09 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (70.31.194.177)

I have a bad feeling about this. I think tox will choke against zorak. Tox doesnt do well under pressure.

<< Comment #435 @ 15:03 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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daka

can't believe they aren't going to stream any cooller match, especially toxic-cooller

F U
U

Edited by daka at 15:14 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #444 @ 15:09 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (37.123.183.161)

how come md havent allready won? they take 2 of 3 wins, why is duel points more valuable?

<< Comment #456 @ 15:20 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #444

3 teams came slightly behind in total points in both tournaments, meanwhile Tox lost 2 matches in duel.

<< Comment #441 @ 15:06 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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flocks

Come on dahang!

yay!

Edited by flocks at 15:38 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #443 @ 15:08 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mattered_

NICE LAG

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flocks - Reply to #443

Player caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaams woooooooooooooooooo... *buffering spinny circle* ...hooooooooooooo!!!

<< Comment #449 @ 15:12 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

If I were cypher i'd just let dahang 3-0 me, his team cant win shit anymore and hes already out

<< Comment #454 @ 15:19 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Bob - Reply to #449

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Edited by Bob at 11:38 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #469 @ 15:35 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #454

i got no fucking clue

<< Comment #491 @ 15:49 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #454

Cypher is out.. just face it !

<< Comment #451 @ 15:13 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Tripleight

Cypher, Adderall has adverse effects when it starts to run out.

<< Comment #452 @ 15:13 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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kolo

dahang == zadrot ebaniy

<< Comment #459 @ 15:24 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo '

thats what you get for playing likea pussy cypher

<< Comment #465 @ 15:30 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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flocks - Reply to #459

Do you mean at the very end of t7 during the last 10 seconds or so? If so, dahang was basically 200/200 and cypher was about 100/100(going by the little hp/armor bars at the top). If you mean the whole map, didn't they basically both play the same? 1-1 scoreline on t7 isn't much at all seeing as it was 1-1 for 99% of the map. =)

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #465

im talking about the whole map. he should have pressed sooner when he had the stack advantage and take the lead

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FlashSoul - Reply to #466

Remember how the match started though.

<< Comment #467 @ 15:31 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Tebeg - Reply to #465

Just let him be happy.

<< Comment #461 @ 15:25 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Tebeg

Dahang rolling on Euros :D

<< Comment #462 @ 15:25 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff

Dang Dang Dang Dahang !!!!!

<< Comment #522 @ 16:04 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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nemecel

Where is Cooller?

<< Comment #471 @ 15:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Pawulon

If Cooller wins vs fazz 3-0 he can still be top 2 in duel, especially if Evil 3-0's Rapha

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<< Comment #474 @ 15:41 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #471

and in that case, with tox losing 102 wins overall tri-masters.

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scowl - Reply to #471

If cooller 3-0 fazz, then even evil 2-1 rapha is enough for cooller to be top2.

Cooller would be at 15 points, and rapha would only have 14.

Edited by scowl at 15:44 CDT, 25 July 2015

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scowl

I think these players are still in the run for the Grand Master duel:

Dahang 14
evil 14
rapha 13
cooller 10

And the deciding matches will be:

rapha - evil
cooller - fazz

A funny scenario would be:

rapha 3:0 evil
cooler 2:1 fazz

... because it would lead to a triple tiebreaker:
rapha 18
dahang 14
evil 14
cooller 14

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Tripleight - Reply to #473

Grasshopper. Coller is already 12 points within an ongoing 3rd match with Fazz.

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Bob - Reply to #475

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Edited by Bob at 11:38 CDT, 26 June 2024

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Tripleight - Reply to #479

Just refreshed, you are spot on.

BUT AM I READING THIS RIGHT, I DRINK NOW

1 Respect the Paco (Chance) 3 - 1 - 0 9 0 15.0 0 14.0 76

WTFFFFFFFFFF

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iavoal - Reply to #473

... because it would lead to a triple tiebreaker:

Buchholz to the rescue.
And Dahang has it.

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jamalz - Reply to #478

wtf is buttholes?

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iavoal - Reply to #485

Parameter to find out who's better along the players with the equal points in a tourney. It kinda summarisez who had the toughest opponents.

<< Comment #521 @ 16:04 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208)

I hate defensive america style....hope cypher wins in the final....

<< Comment #476 @ 15:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Bob

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Edited by Bob at 11:38 CDT, 26 June 2024

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Tebeg - Reply to #476

Don't forget that Cooller beat Tox. I think overall Cooller and Tox are both slightly better at duel.

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #476

fazz just knocked out cooller with map win

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johnny83 - Reply to #482

I can remember a couple of month ago during the fazzs game cooller streaming and he said smth like fazz playing for so long but still not being able to do it good, so there is a punishment for him.

<< Comment #623 @ 17:25 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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f-shawn - Reply to #476

CHANCE FTW

<< Comment #481 @ 15:45 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo '

cooller out, fazz won last map. chance at 15pts lol

Edited by Meph1stoo at 15:46 CDT, 25 July 2015

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scowl

CHANCE HAS 15 points, he might get top 2. HAHAHAHAH

Chance, after the amazing performances of beating Zereck, v0dkax, and Bronson, is in the run for $8,000.

HAHAHAHAHA

THIS IS LITERALLY THE BEST WAY THIS STUPID TOURNAMENT SYSTEM COULD FUCK THINGS UP.

Edited by scowl at 15:50 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #492 @ 15:49 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #483

and if so he got top 2 by beating 3 nonames. nice format ty syncerror

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<< Comment #494 @ 15:50 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Mirio - Reply to #483

this just shows how stupid it is

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<< Comment #486 @ 15:47 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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zfred

and the winner of quakcon 2015 is

the triathon swiss round 1-2-3-4 is bullshit
I really try to understand but i think im to dumb

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<< Comment #487 @ 15:47 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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myT

chance was aptly named... :-)

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<< Comment #488 @ 15:47 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SwarmDMX

I need an advanced maths degree to understand this tournament... It is a Tri Masters Championship with MD winning 2 of the 3 Masters divisions but they could still not win the overall title and lose it to a team that did well in each masters division but didn't win any of them?

What idiot came up with this rediculous system? This is Quake not maths camp...

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daytripper - Reply to #488

9 + 9 + 8 beats 10 + 10 + 5
I guess I'm a maths wizard.

Edited by daytripper at 19:53 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #952 @ 04:08 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #779

But 66% wins beats 0% or 33% wins...

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function9 - Reply to #952

If winning each mode was all that counts I agree. But it's overall points that matter, consistency is king.

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daytripper - Reply to #952

I see what you mean, like in a bo3; if you win 2 out of 3 you win the bo3, fragcount doesn't matter. The difference is that a bo3 stays within the same discipline whereas the tri-master title does not, it's more about looking for the most all-round team. I think that's the reasoning behind it.

In the olympic decathlon for example they do it similarly, they don't just look at who won most of the individual bouts.

It remains a bit far fetched, especially because they are mixing team and individual competitions. As far as I'm concerned they could just as well have dropped the extra tri-master bonus.

The tri-master thing was more of an excuse to justify mixing three competitions. Sync has mentioned that he was only allowed to do one tournament, and this was a way to have three disciplines and still pretend they're only doing one tournament.

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twister

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

If chance goes to the Grand Final with a 3-0 loss against rapha and wins against zereck (not zorak), vodkax and bronson that will be the most hilarious thing ever.

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<< Comment #496 @ 15:50 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #489

fuck the swiss, lets gang beat memento mori

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<< Comment #498 @ 15:51 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #489

I want it to happen so badly just to see what sync will say in defence of the format :D

<< Comment #785 @ 20:02 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #498

It ended up with four players in second place (if you look at match wins).
Tie-breakers put Chance in third.
This is what you get with only four rounds.
At least the winner (sort of) deserved it.

<< Comment #493 @ 15:50 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Tripleight

Chance stomped some noobs, maybe get grand final, YEEE :D

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<< Comment #495 @ 15:50 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Pill_

ahahahah there's no way chance isn't going to get second

10/10 format

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<< Comment #501 @ 15:53 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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smari - Reply to #495

If rapha beats evil 2-1 they will be 1st and 2nd right?

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Sylver - Reply to #501

Apparently not, evil didn't play against chance and chance has a better Buchholz than evil, so he's ahead for sure according to the rules. Except if evil's Buchholz increases a lot after his last match, he won't be 2nd with only 1 map won.

Chance's average opponent seed: 11, trololololo.

Edited by Sylver at 16:00 CDT, 25 July 2015

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scowl - Reply to #505

Evil's buchholz will increase after playing rapha. He will have a better buchholz than chance.

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Sylver - Reply to #512

Ah ok, I finally understand which score it was about.
So evil's buchholz should be increased by cypher's score, by 12, making him ahead of chance.

Edited by Sylver at 16:07 CDT, 25 July 2015

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qwih - Reply to #505

evil's buchholz will be updated again after the match. So we don't know.

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Bob - Reply to #505

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Edited by Bob at 11:38 CDT, 26 June 2024

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Pawulon - Reply to #505

The thing is Buchholtz takes sum of opponents' points excluding the highest and lowest. As Dahang played 4 matches it takes points of two opponents, while evil playing only 3 matches has his Buchholtz based on 1 opponent, Fazz, and it's at 11.0, the score of Fazz. He will have 23.0 after his fourth match.

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<< Comment #511 @ 15:58 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #501

Yes, looks like it.

Evil and chance will have 15 points each, and Evil will have the better Buchholz.

<< Comment #509 @ 15:58 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #495

if rapha wins 2-1 then Chance and Evil are tied and well... No clue who'd have the tiebreaker because it'd be up to the buchholz.

Any other result, chance is through

<< Comment #520 @ 16:04 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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liveth

Looks like this system was kind to chance 1 lost match . but 3 easy wins and 15 points in the end. Thats fail Quakecon

<< Comment #499 @ 15:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qwih

Chance has a 75+% ... chance to be the first Duel Master Finalists.

<< Comment #502 @ 15:53 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Normalised

might depend on the reading of this bit :

Following the completion of the Swiss Triathlon Tournament, the top two ranked teams from the Duel
Stage will be selected to compete in a best of five (Bo5) match

'from the Duel stage'

does it mean ONLY the duel stage, or AFTER the duel stage.

If it means only then why say 'teams' ?

<< Comment #503 @ 15:55 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #502

because they can change duler for that bo5

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Normalised - Reply to #503

good point.

still seems there's slightly enough ambiguity to be able to choose either of the 2 though

Edited by Normalised at 15:57 CDT, 25 July 2015

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scowl - Reply to #502

Because *teams* participate in the Duel Stage, not *players*.

Theoretically, teams could send a different player to each duel round. It just so happens that nobody does it.

<< Comment #504 @ 15:55 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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iavoal

Rockets leaving Zorak.
Electricity entering Zorak.
Life leaving Zorak.

Edited by iavoal at 15:56 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #528 @ 16:13 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Pawulon - Reply to #504

Tox entering Zorak.

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<< Comment #570 @ 16:44 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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XPEHOPE3 - Reply to #528

... with his shaft

<< Comment #508 @ 15:58 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Mirio

cooller could have been in grand masters, but lost last map vs fazz =/

<< Comment #515 @ 16:01 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #508

10-0. Bet it was Elder.
Anton's being true Cooller fucking everything up on a new map.

Edited by iavoal at 16:07 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #515

the fact that he never bans it is what baffles me

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<< Comment #781 @ 19:53 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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fazz ' - Reply to #515

It was Sinister =)

<< Comment #961 @ 04:45 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #781

DE-CE-NT.
Thanks for all the great games (which we mostly havent seen, maybe we'll blackmail sync to get demos at least) and thanks for putting up a good fight in all disciplines.
Hope you, guys, will share something with us. Especially, from the creator of Towel Hitting The Bathroom Floor Again!

<< Comment #510 @ 15:58 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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kolo

looks like a throw. wtf is zorak doin?

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nPSV

It is such a pitty that quake became that stupid where everything is random now, no arcade games so far, the mesurement of skill is ability to wait, listen, spam, +back. I can understand why cypher rages all the time, he was REALLY TOP in vq3 cpma and here in ql he trying as much as possible even versus noobs, wich are most of the top now were in quake 3. But know looking to this game 1 and 1 thing that means success in ql is initial damage. Absolutely no balance in weapons and stupid spawn system, if it might be called system... And yours lovely cooller and evil were meat in q3...

<< Comment #535 @ 16:24 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #519

We meat again.

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Bob

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Edited by Bob at 11:38 CDT, 26 June 2024

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temporon

If I'm understanding this correctly, rapha is in the Grand Master Duel Finals regardless of how he does against evil in their last match of the duel stage. The top two players from the duel stage move on to the Grand Master Duel Finals. These are the rules for determining tie breaks, in their ranked order of use:

1. Wins vs Tied Participants
This tie break looks at the match record between tied participants. For example, if Team Alpha and Team Beta are tied based on statistics but Team Alpha defeated Team Beta when they played during the tournament, Team Alpha wins the tie break. When more
than 2 participants are tied, they're ranked by the number of wins each one had against the others.
2. Median-Buchholz System
The Median-Buchholz system is used to break ties in Swiss tournaments. The value it shows is the sum of a player's opponents' scores, with the best and worst scores discarded. For example, if a player's opponents scores are 1.5, 3, 3, 5, 9, the 1.5 and 9 get dropped from the calculation, so the player's tie break value is 11 (3+3+5).
3. Points Difference
Total points scored minus points given up.

Say evil beats rapha, so rapha, DaHang, cooller, and chance are tied 3-1. Rule 1 states: "When more than 2 participants are tied, they're ranked by the number of wins each one had against the others." Of the four, only two have played each other--rapha beat DaHang. rapha from this should move on to the Grand Master Duel Finals.

Of course if rapha wins vs evil, then he will be the only 4-0 player and will move on to the Grand Master Duel Finals in this case also.

<< Comment #524 @ 16:05 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Bob - Reply to #518

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Edited by Bob at 11:38 CDT, 26 June 2024

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pierow - Reply to #524

What about if rapha loses 2-1 and gets 2 points to tie chance, then wins over match record.

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Bob - Reply to #544

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Edited by Bob at 11:39 CDT, 26 June 2024

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pierow - Reply to #548

Oh right, I was thinking 2 points for a map win.

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twister

The saddest thing is that chance isn't even going to get anything out of getting to the grand final as the winner takes it all. If I was him I would talk to whoever is 3rd and let him play the final and split the prize in case he wins.

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Tebeg - Reply to #526

Shit is so hilarious. Just imagine if someone before Quakecon tells you how it will turn out.

What is funny is also that many people invent many scenarios, but the one that is really close to come to life is even more fucked up :D

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<< Comment #533 @ 16:22 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Bob - Reply to #526

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Edited by Bob at 11:39 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #534 @ 16:22 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #526

don't know if that's allowed tho

<< Comment #539 @ 16:26 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser - Reply to #534

of course it isn't

<< Comment #540 @ 16:28 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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twister - Reply to #534

Well he could forfeit or maybe suddenly not feel very well. I'm sure the organizers would still want to have a final =)

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #540

I doubt evil would agree to this, after all he would be forfeiting to him

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twister - Reply to #545

Not forfeit the final but forfeit his participation in the tournament / drop out / whatever you want to call it. Then somebody else would be second in the duel part and thus qualify for the grand final.

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<< Comment #527 @ 16:10 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Bob

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<< Comment #572 @ 16:44 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (181.114.128.232)

this tourney format is the shittiest ever, chance could get 2nd playing only shitty players, what a joke

<< Comment #530 @ 16:20 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qwih

congrats to MD on the overall title as well. Absolutely well deserved.

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<< Comment #531 @ 16:20 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Bob

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Edited by Bob at 11:39 CDT, 26 June 2024

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #531

i think chance deserves the final more than rapha :)

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funnyb - Reply to #532

..because chance lost 3-0 to rapha, and other than that has played three nonames?

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jamalz - Reply to #536

for the lulz

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #536

because the format was tailored for US players and this way whey will get royally fucked over

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funnyb - Reply to #541

Agreed that the system is fucked up, no arguing there.

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FlashSoul - Reply to #541

It was tailored for US player, that's why this QuakeCon had a record attendance of non-US players.

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xemorx - Reply to #532

just to remember for life

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jamalz

So basically if evil beats rapha , he gets 16k cuz chance will be ez

Edited by jamalz at 16:39 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Bob - Reply to #542

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Edited by Bob at 11:39 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #543 @ 16:29 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx

QUAKECON 2015 EPIC SUCCESS!!!

<< Comment #546 @ 16:29 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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rTx

Does duel grand master represent another 8k prize besides the champion of duel after round 4? Or just prize after grand master, I dont understand

<< Comment #551 @ 16:32 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #546

winner of duel swiss gets 8k, winner of grand master finals wins 8k

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<< Comment #552 @ 16:32 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Bob - Reply to #546

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Edited by Bob at 11:39 CDT, 26 June 2024

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pierow - Reply to #546

It's another 8k on top

<< Comment #553 @ 16:33 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Putton

just listen to tox and you start to improve. :D

the grandmaster of quake. love to see him still play the game he loves!

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<< Comment #558 @ 16:36 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #553

improve personality for sure :)

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dru1d - Reply to #553

Seems like a proper chill bloke too.

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Jehar

Welp.

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<< Comment #556 @ 16:36 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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pierow - Reply to #554

lmao enjoy dropping this bomb on stream

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<< Comment #560 @ 16:37 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Tebeg - Reply to #554

Bored? :D

<< Comment #571 @ 16:44 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208)

cypher should have won....I don't know what happened to him...

<< Comment #557 @ 16:36 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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clitsucker

yumping in yeneral and Enyoiabell xD

Edited by clitsucker at 16:37 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #561 @ 16:38 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Pawulon

I am not 100% about it as I didn't analyze it completely, but it's what I think:

If Chance goes into GM Final it would be a side effect of Swiss System's property, that four rounds with 16 players will determine clear winner, but lower places can be a bit mixed up (compared to round robin with eveyryone playing everyone). This is including 2nd place, which may be taken by a less skilled player. Because of that the prize should be winner-takes-all, as it's with every single stage of Tri-Masters.
The problem is the Grand Masters Final takes two players, the 100% best player (winner) and the second place holder, who, as shown, can be a player whose pairings favoured him, not necesarrily the second best player of the tournament.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament

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<< Comment #584 @ 16:49 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #561

it's not he swiss per-se. It the scoring\pairing\tiebreakers.
TBF a swiss tournament like this can be a lot of fun if you modify it correctly

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<< Comment #888 @ 22:37 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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FlashSoul - Reply to #584

The problem is more fundamental : you shouldn't use a Swiss tournament to determine anything but the first place unless you want to throw in more rounds. Alla in all there are pros and cons to this, but this one is the most obvious problem.

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InDepther - Reply to #561

it's the map wins that make it fucked up

qwih had predicted it that something so fucked up can happen

<< Comment #563 @ 16:38 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx

Tox now so rich and so unhappy :)

<< Comment #564 @ 16:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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clitsucker

Blame the gay swiss bottox.

<< Comment #565 @ 16:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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rTx

Thanks Dird and qwih for the reply
This is fucking outrageous the main event of the whole Lan is most likely to feature chance thanks to a terrible format, I hope chance man ups and admits he has no chance (nor he deserves) to win the grand masters and give up his spot to third place so we can get a worthy main event =/

<< Comment #566 @ 16:41 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #565

chance nearly beat evil on lan before. But pulled a zorak of war.

I hope that chance shows up if he indeed heads to the final.

I will personally put on a pair of pants and shit in them if he wins.

<< Comment #569 @ 16:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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MailmanMel - Reply to #565

Bloke took clean wins when he won, so ofcourse he deserves it.

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<< Comment #573 @ 16:44 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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frs - Reply to #565

chance shouldnt be shit on just because he beat the enemies he was given after rapha though. just bad format

Edited by frs at 16:45 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Tebeg - Reply to #573

Exactly that. People going "if he has honour he should forfeit" are retarded.

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<< Comment #580 @ 16:47 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #573

shit-shat-shut to keep it correct :D

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XPEHOPE3 - Reply to #580

you're an expert in forms of shit then)

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xemorx - Reply to #586

that's grammar my friend, tellin you dat as a grammar nazi

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rTx - Reply to #573

You're all right, it's not his fault format was flawed, it was just the quake spec craving in me being unfair, I hope he gives a good show

<< Comment #567 @ 16:41 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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MailmanMel

I've never liked the swiss system, but still ... everyone knew the rules beforehand so stop bitching randoms.

If one would perform well they'd have an opportunity to fight for the duel chamionship thingy. Everyone knews that MAPS count, not only overall match wins, so don't give up maps to randoms (no offence Zorak, you're comeback and win against rapha was fucking amazing) and you'll have a shot at the championship.

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jamalz - Reply to #567

zorak is not a random. He's Rapha 2.0. Bad aim, amazing mind game and ability to time 4+ items simultaneously. He even boot camped with ca players in order to up his aim for this tournament.

He's a fucking beast, he came into quake far too late though. This kid could have changed the entire scene if he was born earlier.

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MailmanMel - Reply to #576

Zorak is new face ... great future ahead ... whatever.
Rapha still gave him, a map win, he had to put extra effort into it so that zorak could make that comeback.

I just don't get the chance hate, he's been getting good results in the scene for 11 fucking years, just as long as evil btw.

Chance has played well, others haven't, with the exception of evil. Had this been a bracket the outcome would have been exactly the same.

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Ephemix - Reply to #591

Chance would have been in the grand finals in a bracket with

Tox
Cooller
Fazz
Rapha
Dahang
Evil

?

<< Comment #577 @ 16:45 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #567

except that pairing between players was done and redone many times in a deliberate and shortsighted manner

Edited by xemorx at 16:46 CDT, 25 July 2015

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rTx - Reply to #567

They gave up maps against tough opponents while above them in the table is an individual whose opponents consisted of zereck bronson and v0dkax...

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<< Comment #594 @ 16:56 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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MailmanMel - Reply to #581

Tough and easy are relative and you can never have a perfect bracket. Someone always has to win.

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rTx - Reply to #594

It's not relative if you have a score table to measure, and in the current one zereck is last place and the other two not far away

<< Comment #568 @ 16:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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yoyoman

ITT: Rules so complicated ppl only start to rage after shit hits the fans

Edited by yoyoman at 16:43 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #790 @ 20:17 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #568

Couldn't agree more.

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Zarathustra

So.. Meltdowners are going home with 24k??!! :-):-)

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<< Comment #582 @ 16:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #574

Well ...Break will probably mug them on the way to the airport :D

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GUArd - Reply to #582

its no 24millions...

<< Comment #618 @ 17:22 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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M1zzu ' - Reply to #574

Seems so. Rest is 10$k to evil, and 2k$ to each of his teammates. just for signing up. flair mvp. :-P e: depending on how rapha does. Or not? Who understands this whole thing?

Edited by M1zzu at 17:31 CDT, 25 July 2015

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PopeJo

T O C H S
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<< Comment #585 @ 16:50 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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stripy '

a reward for chance being active and persistent all these years:)

shame about some eu duel performances, and was at least hoping dahang would win it finally :\

<< Comment #588 @ 16:53 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx

Bla-Bla-Bla:

1) bla-bla-bla
2)bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-
3) bla
4)bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-
bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-bla-

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weltschmerz - Reply to #588

You could have divided 4 into 4a and 4b. Would have made it more easy to follow, and the point you're trying to make more transparent.

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<< Comment #601 @ 17:03 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #593

thank you! you were very helpful! :P

<< Comment #589 @ 16:53 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz

Kind of sweet to hear tox talk about not letting his team mates down, considering all that money they're taking away already. I almost shed a tear at that point, that everything turned out so well for them.

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<< Comment #600 @ 17:03 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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b0ltzmann - Reply to #589

I shed tears of joy from my penis

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<< Comment #592 @ 16:54 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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frs

going to be terrible PR for quake if the finals are evil-chance though. quake is already considered totally anti-newb and new players not managing to do anything, then they watch the supposed #1 and #2 in the world duel and even there the other guy is getting 100-0 assrammed. best of luck to chance

Edited by frs at 16:57 CDT, 25 July 2015

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f-shawn - Reply to #592

thats dumb. go look for chance vs evil in one of the last big tourneys (cant remmeber which ) and it was some of the closest and most entertaining games ever

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<< Comment #638 @ 17:30 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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frs - Reply to #635

lets hope

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f-shawn - Reply to #638

ok it wasnt that recent but still https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7nPn6KsgGo

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<< Comment #598 @ 17:02 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Bob

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Edited by Bob at 11:39 CDT, 26 June 2024

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jamalz - Reply to #598

man who ISNT fucking confused

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Bob - Reply to #602

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Edited by Bob at 11:39 CDT, 26 June 2024

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FlashSoul - Reply to #598

They didn't do their homework.

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son1dow

what a retarded fucking format. Fuck.

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<< Comment #605 @ 17:07 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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xemorx

so nice cooller and dahang could be at chance's place:
regarding playing big:
1) dahang played vs cypher, rapha and cooller
2) cooller played vs fazz, tox and dahang
3) chance played vs rapha

p.s. big thx to weltschmerz for helping rebuild the phraze in an understandable manner

Edited by xemorx at 17:08 CDT, 25 July 2015

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dru1d

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<< Comment #608 @ 17:09 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo '

Zoot being a propper Syncs lap dog, voting Elder in so he can cast qcon and not saying a word against an obviously retarded format.

Edited by Meph1stoo at 17:10 CDT, 25 July 2015

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xemorx - Reply to #608

he got salary after all (or celery... have doubts)

Edited by xemorx at 17:10 CDT, 25 July 2015

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puritan ' - Reply to #608

Old news.

Edited by puritan at 17:13 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #611 @ 17:10 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Emenike

SyncError about tourney system

http://www.esreality.com/post/2752565/re-img-2913-jpg#gi105848

Edited by Emenike at 17:44 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #642 @ 17:34 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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flocks - Reply to #611

I thought for a second that this was a large mark zuckerberg

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<< Comment #723 @ 18:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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skulp - Reply to #611

hHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Anonymous (85.138.167.150) - Reply to #611

you upset the teenqueen!!!

Deleted by Badb0y at 08:52 CDT, 26 July 2015

<< Comment #612 @ 17:11 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser

No idea about Chance's form this year but he was able to give Evil really close games.

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Ephemix - Reply to #612

That was evil 1.0

<< Comment #614 @ 17:15 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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bsk

Jesus this system is stupid.

<< Comment #973 @ 05:12 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Sandslash - Reply to #614

Because you don't understand it?

<< Comment #615 @ 17:19 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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cerno

I'm getting a little bit irritated by zoot's poor reads...I don't mind if he casts but he's getting a bit cocky and overconfident IMO. He gets overly judgemental about certain decisions claiming they are 'wrong' or 'right' which is usually a really poor way of describing situations when both players aren't actually making any major mistakes.

Edited by kdawg at 17:21 CDT, 25 July 2015

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puritan ' - Reply to #615

Has been happening for years.
This year during the first two days, Jehar kinda held zoot's bullshit on a leash and set a serious/focused mood, but today it's all zlive again.

<< Comment #622 @ 17:25 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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kRoNic- - Reply to #615

welcome to zootlive.

<< Comment #633 @ 17:27 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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nvc - Reply to #615

Today people expect a color commentor, unfortunately neither were high level players but one still has to 'step up'. You can still be convincing to a noob.

<< Comment #637 @ 17:30 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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puritan ' - Reply to #633

You have to be a complete simpleton if you're unable to learn to read the game well after that amount of duel streaming he's done.

<< Comment #646 @ 17:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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cerno - Reply to #633

That's fine but

A) I expect a level of even-handedness, even if it's light, play-by-play commentary
B) It's a sub-10K viewer stream. Appealing to noobs isn't really an issue IMO.

Edited by kdawg at 17:40 CDT, 25 July 2015

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daytripper - Reply to #615

You take these things too literally.

<< Comment #616 @ 17:21 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser

Didn't see almost any cooller. No Cooller interview. wtf

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<< Comment #619 @ 17:23 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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johnny83

CHANCE
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<< Comment #621 @ 17:24 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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frs

click click click

this production...

<< Comment #632 @ 17:26 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #621

How does this ALWAYS happen in later rounds.

Not that the first rounds of the tournaments were flawless, but as time goes by it just looks like things get even worse, which is an achievement in itself.

I can't think of something that would make Grand Finals even worse, but I JUST KNOW THAT SOMEHOW THEY'LL FUCK IT UP.

It's amazing really.

<< Comment #634 @ 17:29 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser - Reply to #632

Just wait till we get to the main stage...

Edited by Venser at 17:29 CDT, 25 July 2015

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flocks - Reply to #632

Well they got through bawlz chugging at least. Now the stream is dead again.

<< Comment #624 @ 17:25 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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cerno

Looking forward to hearing the Windows clicking sounds on the VOD. Good work guys.

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<< Comment #625 @ 17:25 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser

CLICK CLICK CLICK

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Mirio - Reply to #625

gotta find that porn

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<< Comment #627 @ 17:25 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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vanqu1sh

stop these cunting clicks ffs

<< Comment #631 @ 17:26 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser - Reply to #627

Someone's trying to make the overlay work. Good thing they gave up

Edited by Venser at 17:31 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Venser - Reply to #631

They fixed it finally

<< Comment #626 @ 17:25 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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vanqu1sh

stop these cunting clicks ffs

<< Comment #629 @ 17:25 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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f-shawn

GO CHANCE

<< Comment #636 @ 17:30 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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spenzer

this whole tournamentsystem doenst make sense. chance gonna get to the final and just had to play 1 really strong enemy, rapha and there he got rekt.

<< Comment #649 @ 17:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Bob - Reply to #636

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Edited by Bob at 11:40 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #640 @ 17:33 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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rTx

What a majestic ztn from evil!

<< Comment #643 @ 17:34 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Pawulon

If Rapha wins now the will repeat the GF in GM Finals, rite? Maybe its a conspiracy: "you let me win now, I let you win later, ez 8k for each" :P

<< Comment #645 @ 17:36 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo '

Elder is a fitting decider of this shitfest tourney

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<< Comment #647 @ 17:40 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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<< Comment #648 @ 17:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qwih

2-1 rapha, no Chance in the grand finals.
You nerds raged over nothing.

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<< Comment #652 @ 17:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo ' - Reply to #648

you let me win this, i let you win that. we both get 8k Kappa

<< Comment #650 @ 17:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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M1zzu '

wtf was that mega rj.

<< Comment #664 @ 17:49 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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XPEHOPE3 - Reply to #650

That's prolly the rumoured elder easter egg. Which does affect gameplay though, while syncerror told it doesn't.

<< Comment #681 @ 17:53 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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zaggs - Reply to #664

Not the easter egg.

<< Comment #689 @ 18:05 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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XPEHOPE3 - Reply to #681

Then what is the easter egg there?

<< Comment #651 @ 17:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Ffleri

that MH pickup on elder... rapha plz.

<< Comment #653 @ 17:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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sonic

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<< Comment #654 @ 17:44 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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rTx

Sick rockets from rapha, gg
Does that mean we get a rapha evil gm final? Please give me the good news!

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<< Comment #656 @ 17:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #654

yes.

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<< Comment #657 @ 17:47 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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rTx - Reply to #656

FUCK YEAH

<< Comment #655 @ 17:45 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl

Good thing that the casters don't know how the tournament system works. :D

Still speculating about frag difference, when the Buchholz rating actually is the tiebreaker.

Edited by scowl at 17:48 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #658 @ 17:47 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Bob - Reply to #655

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Edited by Bob at 11:40 CDT, 26 June 2024

<< Comment #659 @ 17:47 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo '

"This is the best duel day of quakecon i have seen in a long time"

seriously someone should slap the shit out of that imbecile

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<< Comment #662 @ 17:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #659

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<< Comment #663 @ 17:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #659

This quakecon has been mediocre at best tbh.

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<< Comment #669 @ 17:50 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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puritan ' - Reply to #659

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic.

<< Comment #693 @ 18:05 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (87.17.176.96) - Reply to #659

my god, really...what a shit system...

<< Comment #677 @ 17:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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oskid - Reply to #659

They must be trolling. srsly

<< Comment #660 @ 17:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dru1d

rapha very enjoyable to watch when he's flying around the map hitting everything while cycling the items.

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<< Comment #661 @ 17:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff

LOL.

Thanks to all the Euros, making this a stroll in the park for rapha to win the Duel Tri-Master Trophy !!!!!!

It's all a consipiracy you know. Thanks for playing :DDDDDDDDDDDD

rapha > ALL EUROS !!!!

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<< Comment #672 @ 17:51 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #661

You know what the sad thing is? FoundEm got the $8,000, not rapha. If there's any team at Quakecon that severly underperformed and doesn't deserve any prize money, it surely is FoundEm. :D

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<< Comment #687 @ 18:03 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #672

rofl, it's all a conspiracy.

You all Euros have yourself to blame for all the trash talk about rapha.

How bout some......

Edited by Skinny_Puppy at 18:03 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #797 @ 20:31 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #687

The "'is-rapha-a-racist" thread was started by a north American.

<< Comment #680 @ 17:53 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ - Reply to #661

You sound salty as fuck, dude

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<< Comment #665 @ 17:49 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff

Gotta love Elder.

So good !

:D

<< Comment #673 @ 17:51 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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sonic - Reply to #665

http://i.minus.com/ibibxf0wbKCmGG.gif

Edited by sonic at 17:51 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #666 @ 17:49 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz

You got to give it to rapha, he's just such a smart player. He's really able to get the most out of everything available to him, as little as it may be.

<< Comment #667 @ 17:49 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Zarathustra

I feel so disgusted by rapha's playstyle. That stupid +black I am always on the run catch me if you can style can suck my d+++. God that was terrible to watch, elder especially.

<< Comment #670 @ 17:50 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #667

evil fanboy rage incoming.

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<< Comment #674 @ 17:51 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Zarathustra - Reply to #670

aha.

<< Comment #675 @ 17:51 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #667

ROFL.

It was planed by syncerror and the id staff.

SOOOOOOOOO good !!

<< Comment #953 @ 04:14 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (85.138.167.150) - Reply to #675

skinny puppy = teenqueen?

Deleted by Badb0y at 08:53 CDT, 26 July 2015

<< Comment #679 @ 17:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #667

rapha aint no wigga

<< Comment #668 @ 17:49 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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M1zzu '

I don't think I could distribute 40k$ so unevenly even if I tried to.

<< Comment #676 @ 17:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #668

I could though. I would just keep everything for myself.

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<< Comment #671 @ 17:50 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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temporon

It should be DaHang in the final!

DaHang has a Buchholz-Median score of 26, which is higher than that of evil's--23.

<< Comment #682 @ 17:54 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ - Reply to #671

buchholz only decides in case of a tie...

<< Comment #683 @ 17:54 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Mirio - Reply to #671

1. Score 2. Tiebreaker 3. Buchholz 4. Points

<< Comment #678 @ 17:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qwih

Can't believe Raffer make it work again, caught Evil in exactly the same places as 2013 on DM13 and then somehow got the second RA and mega absolutely untouched on elder... And properly abused his keypowers after the kill giving no chance to evil. That motherfucker.

Edited by qwih at 18:18 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #800 @ 20:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #678

I'm surprised he picked Elder so often.
I would think that map is a bit of a gamble, even if you know how to play it.

<< Comment #690 @ 18:05 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208)

Rapha is so lucky...I am sure if Evi Rapha play many times...evi is better player....

<< Comment #694 @ 18:06 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (118.209.202.92)

go fraze!

<< Comment #696 @ 18:07 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser - Reply to #694

:(

<< Comment #684 @ 17:55 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mattered_

I think its a fixed final.

Evil lets Rapha win this one: Rapha gets 8K

Rapha lets Evil win the next one: Evil gets 8K

Win/Win for both

<< Comment #688 @ 18:05 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser - Reply to #684

I'm sure evil would prefer to play chance in the grand final

Edited by Venser at 18:05 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #698 @ 18:11 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ - Reply to #688

yea but if rapha won 3:0, it would have been rapha vs chance

<< Comment #685 @ 17:56 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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MailmanMel

Bo5 final is pathetic, in teams games sure, but any and all duel finals in whatever genre and whatever games should be at least Bo7.

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<< Comment #686 @ 17:59 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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cerno - Reply to #685

Yeah, you try playing a bo7 grand final and see how it feels.

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<< Comment #717 @ 18:38 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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MailmanMel - Reply to #686

Well this is more like a showmatch. Playing a minimum of 40 minutes to the maximum of 70 minutes for 8000 dollars is not that big of an effort.

Keep in mind this will be one will be on of the biggest payoff giving showmatch in e-sports history ... and it's only a Bo5

The Bitcoin StarCraft Challenge Naniwa vs Scarlett was for almost 9000 dollars and that was a Bo7, and Sc2 is what ... 15 minute maps on average, might be 10, might be 3 hours.

<< Comment #692 @ 18:05 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mattered_

THANK U SYNCERROR FOR ELDER

THANK U MEMENTO_MORI FOR SWISS-SYSTEM

THANK U 3RD REICH FOR BUCHHOLZ

<< Comment #699 @ 18:12 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #692

buchholz is actually what saved the day :D

<< Comment #704 @ 18:18 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #692

"The Buchholz system (also spelled Buchholtz) is a ranking or scoring system in chess developed by Bruno Buchholz (died ca. 1958) in 1932"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buchholz_system

It's always so embarrassing to see a retard German not knowing his own history.

<< Comment #706 @ 18:20 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ - Reply to #704

Its always so embarassing to see a retard German not having any humour

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<< Comment #712 @ 18:32 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (5.147.60.233) - Reply to #706

because refering germany as the third reich is the definition of humour

<< Comment #707 @ 18:22 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #706

You call that all caps clamor for attention humor? Still more embarrassing I guess.

<< Comment #708 @ 18:25 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ - Reply to #707

Your name really fits u...

Anyway, calling me out because I (supposedly) dont know a chess scoring system? I bet you have lots of friends :D

<< Comment #709 @ 18:28 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #708

3rd reich started 1933, idiot.

<< Comment #711 @ 18:31 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #709

what is more salty?

1. the fact cypher didn't win sh*t.
or
2. the fact that evil couldn't handle rapha's brain game?

Plz choose.

<< Comment #715 @ 18:34 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #711

Pray explain what "salty" is supposed to mean. If that's a common English language idiom I'm afraid that it is alien to me.

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<< Comment #716 @ 18:36 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #715

Sowy, won't happen again.

<< Comment #720 @ 18:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #716

No problem. But assuming that "salty" is supposed to mean in any way painful for the moment, I guess none of those options you mentioned qualify. Cypher has won enough already. And seeing a smart player like rapha win over the one-dimensional borefest that is evil certainly doesn't pose a problem to me. Quite the contrary.

<< Comment #764 @ 19:38 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ - Reply to #715

I bet you are great at parties! :D

<< Comment #776 @ 19:45 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #764

Great in what way? Giving the clueless clown, like you?

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Zarathustra - Reply to #776

He meant great as in giving the neurotic, socially shy and inadequate clown. Much love.

<< Comment #993 @ 07:07 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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ultra - Reply to #711

What does "salty" mean. I've read most of this thread and all your replies seems to mention this. Is this some kind of saying popular with 10 years old nowadays?

<< Comment #710 @ 18:29 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #708

comraden, can ve at least agree dat merkel icht a cunt?

Edited by Demiurge at 18:30 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #767 @ 19:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ - Reply to #710

Daaa, Eto Pravda ))

<< Comment #695 @ 18:06 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff

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Edited by Skinny_Puppy at 18:06 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #729 @ 18:54 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208) - Reply to #695

rapha was just lucky... he constantly had better spawn and luck where evi suppose to win... see you after the final...

<< Comment #997 @ 07:31 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #729

GG

<< Comment #760 @ 19:36 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dru1d - Reply to #695

Edited by dru1d at 19:36 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #823 @ 21:15 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #695

Don't make me start rooting for Evil.

<< Comment #700 @ 18:15 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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ggnore

My predictions have come to pass.

<< Comment #701 @ 18:16 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Meph1stoo '

What's done is done, we have to turn to positive things. at least we won't see Elder ever again

<< Comment #741 @ 19:15 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #701

maybe elder 2 is in the works :P

<< Comment #702 @ 18:17 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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inspectre

Was this the Elder easter egg?
http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8544714?t=1h55m50s

<< Comment #703 @ 18:18 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mouse*

So that rapha mh pickup was that a wall glitch/exploit? rapha banned?

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<< Comment #721 @ 18:45 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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bogOtac - Reply to #703

It could have been worse, imagine if rapha used this dirty trick to win the game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAUz-Vi4zLc

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<< Comment #725 @ 18:49 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser - Reply to #721

goddammit

<< Comment #728 @ 18:54 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #721

ahaha :D

<< Comment #705 @ 18:19 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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wem420

Wooot war Rapha!

<< Comment #713 @ 18:32 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Badb0y

so when is the final?

<< Comment #719 @ 18:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #713

think it's 3am CEST if I heard zoott right.

<< Comment #727 @ 18:53 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (83.226.114.104) - Reply to #719

4am CEST

<< Comment #718 @ 18:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl

So evil dropped Furious Heights because he preferred playing Elder as the third map. Why would he even do that?

Some stats:

Rapha played Elder 58 times
Evil played Elder 42 times

Rapha played Furious Heights 1225 times
Evil played Furious Heights 1593 times

At Quakecon 2013, evil beat rapha on Furious Heights.

Why would he pick Elder? It doesn't make any sense. Sometimes I think that one of the reasons rapha gets so many tournament wins is because he's the only one not making stupid map choices.

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<< Comment #726 @ 18:53 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208) - Reply to #718

I see all stupid decisions made by players only when they play rapha...

<< Comment #722 @ 18:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #718

Just forget it, he lost, move on. Sheesh.

rapha has also played more quake than evil.

ergo: rapha > evil.

Because that's just how things work, right?

Edited by Skinny_Puppy at 18:47 CDT, 25 July 2015

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lolograde - Reply to #718

Cause he's worried about Rapha's brain. He thinks he'll have a better chance on a newer map since Rapha would be less likely to have mastered it already.

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scowl - Reply to #724

But that doesn't make any sense. If he's worried about rapha's brain, he should be worried about rapha mastering a new map faster than he can himself. And that's exactly what happened. It was rapha's great map knowledge and inventive movement that decided Elder in his favor.

Evil can beat rapha by having better aim and execution; that's why a map like Furious Heights, where everyone has insane amounts of experience, is best for evil. And that's also why he won Blood Run. He just outdamaged rapha when it mattered.

It's so obvious. How can a player like evil not understand this kind of stuff?

Edited by scowl at 18:57 CDT, 25 July 2015

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lolograde - Reply to #730

I think it's the other way around. Less familiar maps, where the meta is not yet very well developed, are played more with aim and combat instinct. The more well played, well developed maps are far more strategy heavy because a non-heavy aimer can position themselves better for fights.

Edited by lolograde at 19:08 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #740 @ 19:14 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #733

Did you watch the match? It was obvious that Evil won Blood Run due to better aim/combat skills, and that Rapha won Elder due to being a few steps ahead in the meta game on Elder. Rapha made one of the decisive frags when he circumvented the locked door without having the key by an awesome smooth movement that totally caught evil off guard.

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lolograde - Reply to #740

So evil drops Furious Heights and not Blood Run. Do you think Evil is stupid about what maps he drops?

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scowl - Reply to #749

So evil drops Furious Heights and not Blood Run.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. He picked Blood Run. Then he decided to drop Furious Heights in order to play Elder.

Do you think Evil is stupid about what maps he drops?

Yes, that's the main point I was making. And I have explained why I think so.

He stood no chance on Elder, we just saw that. He has beaten rapha on Furious Heights before, there's no reason to drop it.

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lolograde - Reply to #752

Fair enough. We can hope for an Evil interview and maybe Memento Mori will ask about his pick/drop thoughts.

Edited by lolograde at 19:31 CDT, 25 July 2015

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orrrcccus - Reply to #730

The american "got lucky" avoiding all europeans till Duel Final, so naturally evil underestimated him.
In Bo5 evil will destroy rapha.

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<< Comment #735 @ 19:09 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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lolograde - Reply to #734

Ya. Rapha is a total noob. When has he ever won anything on LAN? He's all luck, no skill.

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<< Comment #737 @ 19:13 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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orrrcccus - Reply to #735

If that is what you understood, I am sorry for you.

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scowl - Reply to #737

It's what you expressed. And it is clearly nonsense. Rapha and evil have played before, you know. Evil sure has hell won't care about how exactly rapha got to the final; he knows that rapha is hard to beat.

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Badb0y - Reply to #735

im euro and for that a evil fan. but clearly lolo has a point.

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orrrcccus - Reply to #738

What point :) ?

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Venim - Reply to #742

That you're wrong lol

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orrrcccus - Reply to #745

Majority of people saw the matches played by evil and Cypher prior QCon. In my opinion they are the TOP 2 in Europe by far for such a long time. When they play each other, the games are simply amazing.
I am not saying that, if Rapha lived and played in Europe he wouldn't keep up with these 2. That I don't know.

All I know is that if Rapha met Cypher/Evil/Cooller till Round 4 maybe the situation would be different.

Edited by orrrcccus at 19:31 CDT, 25 July 2015

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Venim - Reply to #754

Don't get me wrong. I think the format was complete shit and it sucked that rapha didn't play anyone except evil.

With that said, I think he could beat cypher (obviously we won't know though... thanks syncerror) and he clearly can and has beat evil.

The point they were trying to get across is that there's no way evil thought anything differently about going into that match against rapha just because rapha hadn't played any top euro duelers. evil knew exactly what to expect.

Saying that's the only reason he lost is a bit disingenuous to rapha who has beat all of the people you named on lan several times.

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orrrcccus - Reply to #758

".. evil knew exactly what to expect."
I don't think anyone including those 2 knew what to expect. Maybe rapha a bit, since he saw how evil played with cypher.

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orrrcccus - Reply to #769

I should eat my words :D.
Congratz to Rapha.

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Venim - Reply to #769

Whats your excuse for evil now? :S

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orrrcccus - Reply to #845

I apologise for saying that basically rapha didn't deserve to be in the final.
Although I still think it's "odd" how he never played an european till round 4, after seeing his performance that fact became irrelevant. He really outplayed evil and was the best dueler at QCon 2015.

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<< Comment #744 @ 19:16 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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lolograde - Reply to #738

Funny thing is that I'm also an evil fan. Probably one of the more entertaining players to spec.

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goodmania - Reply to #734

Rapha was extremely lucky in games especially first map...in 2013 final, rapha pulled off miracle. But i credit rapha not making mistake ever. Evi should not make fundamental mistakes and play stable...overall skill, evi is better than rapha...

<< Comment #759 @ 19:35 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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ggnore - Reply to #757

I actually agree with you there.

Watching evil move and aim is just scary

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lolograde - Reply to #757

This account is reserved for talking about how Rapha is not that good?

Edited by lolograde at 19:38 CDT, 25 July 2015

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nex1 ' - Reply to #757

Explain that? How can Evil be clearly superior in skills while his main stranght point is hitting insane rails and lg?

If you count aim between the other abstract skills, then yes, you have a point. But then again that would make CS a skilled game.

Rapha's aim is pathetic compared to evil. How can he win with inferior skills?!

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Ephemix - Reply to #718

Rapha lost elder a lot vs his NA counterparts. More so than those T7.

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scowl - Reply to #739

According to the Quakelive stats, rapha has a record of 55-3 on Elder. This is the opposite of losing it "a lot". Seems like you just made that up.

(Evil has 35-7, which is also good, but clearly worse than rapha's stats.)

<< Comment #766 @ 19:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Ephemix - Reply to #746

Yeah, I guess that was totally anecdotal of me. I thought he lost to dkt a handful of times, and then lost vs dahang in the showmatch.

Edited by Ephemix at 19:39 CDT, 25 July 2015

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nex1 ' - Reply to #718

Because he simply tought he had more chances, he tought he was stronger on elder, for whatever reasons.

And he wouldn't be wrong. Evil usually gets the first frag, and once you have the key, elder is locked, if you are evil.

One of the maps in which is more difficult to come back. Probably the worst.

Perfect against Rapha, indeed.

<< Comment #736 @ 19:11 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208)

You are right only old map rapha has chance against evi is the first map because rapha can play extremely defensive to frustrate him...in other maps, rapha have no chance...i wish no more unfair things and advange to rapha will happen....

<< Comment #770 @ 19:41 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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butcher_kgp - Reply to #736

yea how that panned in elder ?

<< Comment #747 @ 19:19 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser

QuakeCon champions:

2008: Cypher
2009: Rapha
2010: Cypher
2011: Rapha
2012: Cypher
2013: Rapha
2014: Cypher
2015: Rapha?

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<< Comment #750 @ 19:21 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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lolograde - Reply to #747

Haha, is that list true? WTF...

<< Comment #751 @ 19:22 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venser - Reply to #750

it is

<< Comment #977 @ 05:46 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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nvc - Reply to #750

http://justnvc.co.uk/image/20154823921 I should have kept this up :)

<< Comment #763 @ 19:38 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venim - Reply to #747

evil let me down in 2013 (remember the huge hype train in the runup to qcon?) but I think he'll have a better chance this year

Still pulling for rapha though :D

<< Comment #780 @ 19:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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magadog - Reply to #747

Man I'd like to see that happen but I also wouldn't mind seeing evil finally win a qcon. I don't know who i'll be going for.

<< Comment #843 @ 22:10 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Lorfa - Reply to #747

TOGETHER THEY FORM THE UNBEATABLE QUAKER: CYPHERAPHA

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<< Comment #876 @ 22:21 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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lolograde - Reply to #843

Next year will be 2v2 tournament. Cypher and Rapha will team up and call themselves, "FINAL BOSS".

<< Comment #762 @ 19:38 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

HOW MANY HOURS FROM RIGHT NOW TO GRAND FINALS?

<< Comment #765 @ 19:38 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venim - Reply to #762

1hr 30 min

<< Comment #768 @ 19:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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sonic - Reply to #765

how many bawls can you chug in 1hr 30 min?

<< Comment #775 @ 19:45 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Pawulon - Reply to #768

1

<< Comment #772 @ 19:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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butcher_kgp

if evil cannot beat rapha in grand finals then I will accept that rapha is indeed the best duel player on LAN of ALL TIME. Now evil has no excuses.

1. top form [check, raping cypher]
2. already got a taste of rapha [check, played in duel division]
3. no jet lag [check, already been here like a week]

<< Comment #782 @ 19:53 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venim - Reply to #772

Regardless of what happens here I think best lan of all time is still a tossup between rapha and cypher.

But ya, no excuses this time.

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<< Comment #794 @ 20:23 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208) - Reply to #772

Cypher is the best dueler of all time not rapha

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<< Comment #880 @ 22:29 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #794

Oh hauer & z3ct4d you.

rapha is world chempion.

Edited by Skinny_Puppy at 05:05 CDT, 26 July 2015

<< Comment #914 @ 23:12 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venim - Reply to #794

I think you could maybe argue its a tossup but consider this:

rapha has almost no one in NA to even practice against. cypher can play against any of the top duelers in Europe whenever he wants. Yet rapha still manages to show up in top form after what? Practicing against dahang, chance, rusty/inactive zero4 or czm?

I think that alone shows what caliber of a player he is. Even more amazing considering he started out playing against bots because his internet was so bad.

<< Comment #773 @ 19:44 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mc1nder

Finals has been pushed back to 9:30 CST
https://twitter.com/SKrapha/status/625097810006798337

<< Comment #774 @ 19:45 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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adem

https://twitter.com/SKrapha : Finals has been pushed back to 9:30 CST

4:30 CEST i guess, gg id, gg qcon

<< Comment #784 @ 20:00 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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ZeriouS

re - why have they turned off the quakecon stream?!

<< Comment #796 @ 20:28 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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ggnore - Reply to #784

Zoots gonna go fuck the Qcon girls.

<< Comment #786 @ 20:03 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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[mash]

just wow

<< Comment #787 @ 20:04 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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yoyoman

wasn't there a round robin format once at dreamhack?

<< Comment #793 @ 20:23 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (185.37.87.201)

When the casters and the stream production team have no idea who is in the finals, it shows how confusing the format is.

<< Comment #791 @ 20:20 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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sTPHN

LLL-fucking-MAO at the system implemented for duels.

<< Comment #792 @ 20:21 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen '

!!! FIXTURE !!! D:

http://www.esreality.com/post/2753588/quakeco...-vs-rapha/

Get in before it's le over

Edited by Teen Queen at 20:21 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #798 @ 20:40 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Mirio

producer knows his shit and muted willits

<< Comment #799 @ 20:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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phy1um

Rapha's Twitter says it was delayed an additional 30 minutes I think?

lol

<< Comment #801 @ 20:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dehumanizer '

It's 3:42 AM, i drink second coffee and waiting... I hope there will be no *click click* in the finals... or fucking stream lags.

<< Comment #809 @ 20:55 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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ggnore - Reply to #801

coffee fag

<< Comment #819 @ 21:13 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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donka ' - Reply to #801

take it bitches...
for all those Dreamhacks and CPLs i woke up at 4AM or stayed for 36 hrs
you fuckin take it

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<< Comment #802 @ 20:44 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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ZeriouS

stream back online......

<< Comment #803 @ 20:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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flocks

IT'S TIME FOR BAAAAAAAAAWLLLLLLLS CHUGGGGGGGIIIIIIINGGGG

<< Comment #804 @ 20:46 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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daytripper

Fuck this BAWLS CHUGGING right in the ... you know where.

<< Comment #805 @ 20:47 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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ZeriouS

these qcon girls have gained weight.

*edit*: am not drunk enough to accept this.

Edited by ZeriouS at 20:50 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #807 @ 20:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Mirio

and turns off stream after bawls chuggin, very good producer. fuck em

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<< Comment #810 @ 20:58 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #807

Even the streamer was too ashamed to keep this on the air.
Good call, I was getting ready to barf.

<< Comment #812 @ 20:59 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208)

again they push the time to have jet lag more effect for rapha....

<< Comment #814 @ 21:02 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #812

A full week of jetlag.

<< Comment #811 @ 20:58 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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cumrag

has the attendance lowered?

<< Comment #813 @ 21:00 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dru1d

I guess faceit saw sense and pulled the stream to keep some dignity. Fair play.

<< Comment #815 @ 21:04 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen '

You guys are ALL wrong.

There's a shitty raffle or some other pre-teen bollocks going on, baldy is throwing promotional items to fat kids and id finally listend to us -

they refuse to show this garbage on stream, instead they'll show only game footage.

We did it ESR. We fucking did it.

<< Comment #817 @ 21:07 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #815

no, its the power of FPSPulse. Thanks ZoOt plugs!

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<< Comment #818 @ 21:09 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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flocks - Reply to #815

WE DID IT REDDIT!

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<< Comment #816 @ 21:06 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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wem420

Stream down!!!

<< Comment #820 @ 21:13 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl

https://twitter.com/SKrapha/status/625115970185527297

Sorry guys delayed another 30 minutes again

So 5 am CEST? Say it ain't so.

<< Comment #821 @ 21:14 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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melechesh '

Bawls chuggin, minigames and other on-stage moronic shit represents the heart and soul of what quakecon and it's (lack of) organization and production has come to mean over the years.

Anyone who doesn't feel at home watching that shit during quakecon is a retard.

GIMME MY STREAM BACK WILLITS I WANNA SEE WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED WITH THOSE CUPS WITH STRAWS TAPED TO THEIR SIDES

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<< Comment #826 @ 21:20 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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flocks - Reply to #821

They looked dangerous.

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<< Comment #1086 @ 11:59 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #821

qcon, the inspiration behind drunked games since 1997

<< Comment #822 @ 21:14 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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donka '

After all games it turns out people were waiting for the logo to spin

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<< Comment #824 @ 21:16 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

Grand Finals starting now

<< Comment #825 @ 21:17 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen '

I honestly can't believe someone bothered designing a 2015 edition of the spinning logo.

Apparently black humor is alive and well in Dallas.

Edited by Teen Queen at 21:17 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #828 @ 21:24 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (217.229.204.46)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v5Q2ektatQ

<< Comment #827 @ 21:24 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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nemecel

I thought Cooller was still ON. What happened? He won vs fazz.. why is he out exactly?

<< Comment #830 @ 21:29 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #827

Because he lost a whole match to Dahang and a map here and there to other opponents, 1 to Fazz and 1 to Tox.

But mostly because he was tired of not being streamed and interviewed at all.

<< Comment #857 @ 22:14 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #830

This, not even 1 full set of maps from cooller was streamed, taking into account he has the biggest fanbase in the game doesnt seems intelligent.

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<< Comment #829 @ 21:27 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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MailmanMel

The stage portion of Quakecon is insanely bad as usual, especially for 2015, but it could be 1997 ... who'd know.
It's so terribad that it's fantastic at the same time. Looking at them steping into the same bucket for 2 decades is great ... may we get a 3rd one as well.

Edited by MailmanMel at 21:28 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #831 @ 21:29 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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skulp

TriHard

Edited by skulp at 21:31 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #832 @ 21:30 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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donka '

Clock doesn't look nearly the same as last year :o

<< Comment #833 @ 21:31 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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palatka

just woke up. what happened to cypher? D:

was gonna say ill watch demos but roflmao

Edited by palatka at 21:31 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #837 @ 21:32 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #833

1st evil then dahang.

<< Comment #860 @ 22:14 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #833

cypher not strong enough.

Even tho he's in the shape of his life.

go figure.

<< Comment #835 @ 21:31 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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cerno

Limited edition Lost World, LSD version.

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<< Comment #836 @ 21:31 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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flocks

E V I L 3 - Rapha 1

COME ON EVIL PAPA NEEDS SOME E $

okay rapha has his 1. rest go to evil i hope! ... actually i would love a full 5 maps with evil winning =)

Edited by flocks at 21:44 CDT, 25 July 2015

<< Comment #970 @ 05:07 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #836

WHAMMY !

<< Comment #838 @ 21:34 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen '

slob531: but who wa s gamma

<< Comment #839 @ 21:40 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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pierow

cg_fov 70

com_maxfps 20

bitrate less than before

good stream

<< Comment #840 @ 21:51 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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kevz - Reply to #839

kickscale is the best by far

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<< Comment #884 @ 22:34 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #840

I got so dizzy while I was laughing, felt I was on drugs. Sheeeeeet !!

<< Comment #841 @ 21:51 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208)

rapha have better spawn every time and play like rat...lol

<< Comment #846 @ 22:10 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #841

.

Edited by Skinny_Puppy at 22:12 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #842 @ 22:08 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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MailmanMel

That was so fucking pathetic, unbelivable.

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<< Comment #864 @ 22:15 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #842

rapha > the planet

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<< Comment #851 @ 22:12 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208)

Evi is better player...rapha just play extremely safe....

<< Comment #895 @ 22:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (217.229.204.46) - Reply to #851

*unpredictable

<< Comment #981 @ 05:53 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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sTPHN - Reply to #851

but he lost? that logic though.

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<< Comment #847 @ 22:11 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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dru1d

meh, cya next year.

<< Comment #848 @ 22:11 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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vanqu1sh

Absolutely sickening hearing those fat inbreds shouting "USA USA USA" after the game. A bit of an anticlimactic final tbh, rapha played well but over the course of the tournament I gotta say dahang looked like the stronger dueller. would've been nice to see evil get a LAN title too, meh. :(

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<< Comment #854 @ 22:13 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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flocks - Reply to #848

Luckily there is no one in the UK that shouts for their country in sports like football when they are excited for their countrymen.

<< Comment #861 @ 22:15 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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vanqu1sh - Reply to #854

I'm not sure how you can infer that I approve of such retarded behaviour simply because I live in the same country as people who partake in it.

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<< Comment #878 @ 22:23 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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flocks - Reply to #861

I didn't say you approved of it. But, how is it retarded to cheer for one's countryman? It's not like the were insulting evil or being rude to him. They were cheering because they were glad that someone from the US won. As the host country, I think that is perfectly acceptable(regardless of what country hosts an event).

Personally, I was cheering for evil(which you can see in several of my posts here) even though I am american. In a way, I couldn't lose as far as being happy with the winner. If evil wins, I am happy and win some useless ESR dollars for fun. If rapha wins, someone from my country won which is also nice.

I want to point out that I think our country IS stupidly over-patriotic. Many from here act like we are kings of the universe. I hate that. However, I don't think cheering for your county in an ultimately meaningless e-sport is worthy of ridicule. Just my thoughts. =)

sorry for the long reply. :P

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vanqu1sh - Reply to #878

I think it's more the lack of self awareness of the people who DO partake in that behaviour that I find amusing and worthy of ridicule (maybe deriving amusement from the fact that they're genuinely unhealthy/overweight is a bit too far though, so sorry if anyone got offended).

I hate patriotism in literally every conceivable form and I'll never understand why some people seem to think of it as a good thing. It's essentially being proud of your country for no other reason than the fact that you were born there. I have no problem with people who are proud of the aspects of their country that are genuinely good, but a pigheaded unwillingness to stare facts in the face seems to be the main motivator behind a lot of these people being overly patriotic and that's something I can never respect.

Still, you made a valid point about home crowds cheering for their players. I just feel like some americans let the aforementioned patriotism blind them to the merits of the other players.

I'm not hating on America btw. I even stated in my original comment that I believe dahang (an american) was the best dueller we saw today, and I stick by that. If a non-American winning could have circumvented the USA chanting though, I'd have preferred that as the outcome any day.

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<< Comment #1025 @ 08:42 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (82.137.12.87) - Reply to #898

"It's essentially being proud of your country for no other reason than the fact that you were born there"
And I don't know if you realize that this is the mentality of immigrants, especially 1st wave of immigrants who did not have the time to accomplish much or make sacrifices. The more you live in the country, the more you invest into it, and reasons accumulate, even without knowing. If you are walking all across the globe your statement might have some basis, although nothing solid could be build on shaky foundations so I don't know if your hosts would like your mentality. From this point of view this is like coming to stay in my house and saying that my house and all houses are $hit and all houses should be destroyed. Saying that you owe nothing to the country who would ultimately pay for the police to defend you against robbers and killers and would pay for the Army not to have your arse taken prisoner and slave in some distant land is also not caring for the laws. Maybe what you are really saying is that you don't believe in democracy.

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M1zzu ' - Reply to #854

but only because no sane man would ever get exited for the UK in football

<< Comment #986 @ 06:30 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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vanqu1sh - Reply to #948

lol, that's true too :D

<< Comment #916 @ 23:16 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venim - Reply to #848

It's a tournament held in Texas, won by an American. What did you expect seriously?

And no I didn't like it either.

<< Comment #1004 @ 07:44 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Pawulon - Reply to #848

<< Comment #1117 @ 18:25 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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pcfs - Reply to #848

Agreed. Cringed, but ended quick and hoped it was in the name of irony at least...

<< Comment #849 @ 22:11 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

guess thats all folks, quakelive is OVER.

I think next year at qcon will be doom 4 so we wont get any more tournaments.

Rapha/Cypher best ql duelers

<< Comment #850 @ 22:12 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Pineapple Pizza!

that flick rocket as he jumps for the red was just

rapha

<< Comment #852 @ 22:13 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Mirio

raffer is cryptonite :(

<< Comment #853 @ 22:13 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Demiurge '

:'(

<< Comment #855 @ 22:14 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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sofiene

Rapha with a tactical time-out

<< Comment #872 @ 22:18 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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lolograde - Reply to #855

Yea, that was very shady. He didn't even really move his mouse. He killed Evil and immediately TO'd. Then on camera he sat there and then acted like he was checking his mouse plug. Lame.

<< Comment #886 @ 22:36 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #872

I've never even heard of a mouse freeze before? And the timing was perfect, a choke point for a comeback. If I was evil I'm not sure I would shake raphas hand.

<< Comment #889 @ 22:38 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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nex1 ' - Reply to #886

Absolutely, especially considering Evil has never called a tactical timeout to his advantage in tournaments

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<< Comment #890 @ 22:42 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #889

If you're being sarcastic, and I haven't noticed Evil doing that, but I don't follow online tournaments that much, I definitely can't remember Evil doing it on LAN.

Regardless, I do think it's clear Rapha is a better player, which makes the timeout even more lame.

Edited by Demiurge at 22:46 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #900 @ 22:47 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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nex1 ' - Reply to #890

ROFL

And what's the difference in doing it in online official tournaments or lan ones? Plus Evil did it so often we even lost count. It's not a big deal, let's just not pretend he's a saint.

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<< Comment #913 @ 23:03 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #900

The difference is importance of the tournament and how much respect for fairness is given to the tournament and to the opponent. No one is a saint, no one is pretending Evil is a saint, but to me, Rapha was lamer than Evil tonight. I'm glad you find it funny.

<< Comment #1030 @ 09:04 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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nex1 ' - Reply to #913

So how do you rate it? One time on a big lan counts like three times on online cups? And what if its a small local lan?

Please, Evil started the circus, and abused it so much and so shamelessly they did indeed have to modify the rules, only for what he did.

It's funny indeed that you don't count original lamer as lame only because you're a mad fanboi.

If Evil did that to Rapha, you wouldn't have had anything to say, it'd been totally fine.

And also lol @ your "i don't follow the scene". You do, otherwise you couldn't possibly have detected the sarcasm.

But keep embarrassing yourself if you wish. Evil got his very own tactic used against him. Some would call it

K A R M A
A..A
R.....R
M........M
A.............A

<< Comment #1036 @ 09:17 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #1030

Are you okey? You don't seem to be adequately parsing or responding to my post. I said regardless of how lame Evil was, Rapha was the lamer last night. It's okey, you don't have to say anything, internet police has already judged you.

<< Comment #1063 @ 10:57 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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nex1 ' - Reply to #1036

Not my problem if you can't read or you wanna avoid the answers

<< Comment #1066 @ 11:01 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #1063

Oh dear nex1, I made it your problem by my pointless emotioanal ad hominem attacks and wasting your time. I apologize sincerely.
SO
SORRY
OO
R--R
R----R
Y-------Y

<< Comment #1071 @ 11:04 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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nex1 ' - Reply to #1066

Apologies accepted.

<< Comment #1064 @ 10:58 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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nex1 ' - Reply to #1036

And who or what is "internet police"? You xD?

<< Comment #933 @ 01:13 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Latvietis - Reply to #900

He did it so much that they made a rule in 125fps to prevent it. :D

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Venser - Reply to #890

"I definitely can't remember Evil doing it on LAN."

Let me refresh your memory:
https://youtu.be/bIO_AgBjmfU?t=27m53s

Notice how the timeout worked perfectly for Evil here since he got a free red and took the control of the map.

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #1088

I don't see how he got free red, he just spawned on red and had the timing before the timeout. Does this one really seem tactical to you?

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Venser - Reply to #1109

I'm not saying he orchestrated it but the timeout benefit him. Rapha basically let him take red without any damage and that wouldn't happen if it wasn't for the timeout since he was holding the center map.

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Lord_Jellington - Reply to #1116

Yep taking ra was a dick move. Rapha had kindly backed off to leave Evil alive in lg room and typed "take ya". When I saw it live Rapha shouted "What an asshole!" as Evil dived for red.

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FlashSoul - Reply to #886

When the cable of a WMO starts to give in, it can happen. Usually it degrades pretty fast from then on and playing games with it just become impossible. It doesn't mean that it was the case right now though. That I can't know.

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SigningOff - Reply to #886

Really? You haven't followed quake much the past 7 years have you?

rapha is using the WMO, which is unpredictable in itself.
He had tonns of problems in tournaments with it feezing and being unresponsive, plus have had major issues with the accel.

Although, he still is a beast winning tournaments after tournaments turning it up to 11 when he has to.

Feel the wrath of 125Hz and 400dpi !

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #957

I have followed quake much the past 7 year, I really have enjoyed zotacs and other online tourneys. People call timeouts all the time, because it's online, many things are unreliable, and often times there is a tactical advantage. In team games, I actually think its a fair tactic to pause and regroup the strategy.

I have also followed LANs without missing a tourney, and I don't remember a tactical timeout in the stage game, ever. In stead of asking me how well I have followed quake, maybe you could fill me in on what I missed and give some counterexamples?

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faerie_ - Reply to #957

It's not the wmo, it's the game. It's nowhere near as bad as it used to be 4 years ago but it's still messed up.

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sTPHN - Reply to #872

Now Evil knows how it feels.

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<< Comment #1073 @ 11:10 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Crotazzo - Reply to #872

check the vod... it shows that rapha kills evil then turns arround and when he is going to the teleport his viewangle stays completely still. Unfortunately i think it really trew evil off as 10 secs later he is waiting for a mega 15s earlier looking completely the wrong way....

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nex1 ' - Reply to #855

LOL he Evil'ed Evil

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They turned off stream as soon as those landwhales started grabbing XXXL shirts, chanting "USA USA USA"

Dear lord I wish I could see that mircaculous disaster that you people call quakecon.

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weltschmerz - Reply to #856

That's not fair. This was an awesome double win, and ppl on location are right to adequately celebrate it. Kind of a compensation for cypher's last year "u rush too much", and well deserved.

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imdaniel

evil chokes so hard on finals.
i would have liked to see rapha geting Termianted tho.

ggs.

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wrong person

racism prevailed that day

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<< Comment #894 @ 22:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (217.229.204.46) - Reply to #858

No, there was no white pr-Evil-ege!

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scowl

TSHIRTS? TSHIRTS?! TSHIRTS!

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Latvietis - Reply to #859

DOMINOS PIZZA!

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kK_Storm

Damn, this was a great final, shame it came out only a 3-mapper. And this time Elder game DELIVERED.

Was rooting more for evil, but what can you do. Rapha played insanely good, and managed to overcome in those most important micromoments.

GGs Shane and Sergey, impressive ending of a great tournament.
And congrats on 8k doublechecks!

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<< Comment #863 @ 22:15 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Rapher did what he did best. Played 1 game...lost a few drags. Went behind the curtain, thought over the mistakes, figured out corrections, came back and won everything. A plus.

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<< Comment #870 @ 22:18 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208)

Cypher beat rapha everytime they meet at final so cypher is the champion of all....

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nex1 ' - Reply to #870

Not sure if trolling or...

Actually, i'm almost sure you're even serious

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Maestrooo1

Evil wasn't looking sharp at all. His RG accuracy was off by a thousand miles, plus, he moved around not so carefully walking into a lot of defensive dmg of Rapha. Seems like he was a little bit tensed,wanted to force it too much i guess.

Well played to Rapha, solid performance. Looking at last years Quakecon's Cypher will be the next victor.;)

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kK_Storm - Reply to #865

Yes indeed, just look at evil's average RG accuracy, he was probably stressed/uncomfortable with the setup. Btw does anyone know if the computers on stage are the same they were playing on before?

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inspectre - Reply to #873

I think you've got to give rapha full credit for that.

Evil looked comfortable against cypher and his other opponents. However, rapha forced evil to start questioning every move he made with excellent timing, movement, and reads. Maybe evil was uncomfortable or nervous on stage, but both competitors have been there before and rapha came out on top.

Hats off to both competitors for some entertaining games.

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<< Comment #1076 @ 11:15 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Crotazzo - Reply to #865

evil played a bit brainless IMO... he was ALWAYS making noise... never set up a trap propertly... on grand masters final elder he almost cought rapha offguard but a spam rocket from rapha that didnt hit made evil spam one himself too early and lost his opportunity..... rapha knew where evil was all the time and that to him is gold.... evil should have played more silent at times

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MaGGoTkil

wp rapha, deserved win

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lolograde

Epic last game on Elder. Clutch plays by both Evil and Rapha. That kill on Rapha under MH right after OT... I thought that was game over. Any normal person probably would've buckled under the pressure but Rapha has nerves of steel and immediately turned it around.

GGWP all. Spectacular TDM and CTF games. I wish the duel tournament had different format but w/e. They're at least mixing stuff up each year.

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weltschmerz - Reply to #867

rapha got evil's number, specifically that his game is based on intimidation. He either intimidates or is being intimidated, and rapha took full advantage of that.

Edited by weltschmerz at 22:21 CDT, 25 July 2015

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iavoal - Reply to #874

Well, there's something in it. But isn't it the same time as saying you either win or somebody wins you?

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weltschmerz - Reply to #945

No. There's a number of ways to win, and evil is pretty much the only player I have ever seen that constantly tries to run ppl over, and basically scare them into not being able to think and move freely anymore. That's what his game is based on, and once he can't do that and meets real resistance he comparatively easily falters. Sorry for possibly doing him injustice, but each time I see him playing it feels like seeing the most basic street gang mentality being at work.

That doesn't mean that I didn't feel sorry for him when seeing him there alone on the stage. But then, given how he never seems to care about learning English and socializing, I guess that's what he's accustomed to anyway.

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iavoal - Reply to #979

You put it well, i agree that Evil's style is based on this unique constant flaw of in-your-face attacks, that at some time produce an "added value" of dazzling opponents and paralyzing them in some way.

However, its a widespread simplification to think of Evil's game as of nothing but ingenuous aggression, the most basic street gang behavior, etc (probably, it has something to do with his bully appearance, well, not anybody's born in professors families, half of population live in suburbs as Orehov does).

I would say quite the contrary, it takes a profound understanding of how Quake works, how each map works to not play this copy-paste dry ABC game that positional players like Cooller invented 20 years ago, but to find a brand new way, to engineer how to hack it completely with the dynamic. It would be a slight exaggeration comparing Evil with a Kasparov of Tal kicking asses of classic academic champions as Botvinnik with their non-stopping fierce attacking styles but you got the point. All these "mindless, brainless, imbecile, etc" rushes of Evil are scrupulously calculated and performed at the precise spots in precise time, its well known that he spended a hell lot of time thinking about the meta of the game, watching tons of old demos, even from the era of non-optical mouses, to see how to crack each map. At the end, how would he invent a certain way to stop Cypher, a genius in his prime, if he's such a clueless thug how Yanushevsky claims he is?

Cypher sure won't say anything good about Evil because of their rivalry, but such players as Agent and Pavel, known for their clever approach to the game do respect Evil greatly for his non-standard, non-superficial thinking and not for his percentages how many would say.

Edited by iavoal at 07:11 CDT, 26 July 2015

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weltschmerz - Reply to #992

Nobody said that he was entirely stupid or a mere attack dog. But you might want to take notice of how he has serious problems adapting. Yesterday's games gave a perfect demonstration of this limitation, where rapha surprised him with a mixture of blunt aggression and defensive positional play - variations in tempo, if you will - he didn't expect and totally couldn't handle. I mean, a 3:0 win is in the end pretty convincing, isn't it.

It's really always the same thing. He tries to force players into playing his game, and once he got them there it's almost always a win. It just doesn't come across as being very creative. He doesn't really ever try to beat anybody in their own game, like cypher for example does. It's like the personality of the opponent doesn't really exist for him. Like he has a fixed idea about how the game should go and it's either his way or the highway or whatever.

That's why I said elsewhere that it was one-dimensional. With evil it feels like if you've seen one of his games you've kind of seen all of them. Even the particular map doesn't really seem to matter so much.

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iavoal - Reply to #1002

Well, if nobody's underestimating evil much, then i'm not gonna exaggerate him.

Yeah, you're probably right about adapting. But the specific of evil's talent is to play it that way. Tal could be only Tal, sacrificing half of his pieces whille not giving a slightest fuck who've been sitting at the table in front of him (actually, its the same thing that evil does - sacrificing frags and resources and time). Some could say its unefficient and unprofessional approach. Some will call it more idealistic, more passionate approach to the game.

But, frankly saying, would you love to see another Dahang-Rapha for 99 overtimes with these two careful gents, trying to overcontrol from one side and overexecute from another, instead of Cypher-Evil?
Yes, Rapha counters Evil succesfully for now, dont know what could be another reason Evil underperforming THAT MUCH against him. I hate these excuse-diggers but evil is incredible sensitive to not having his comfort in setup, he told agent that he struggled a lot to adapt to qcon's, found his game after some time and then on the stage when it changed again it feeled like twas underperforming 2500 ELO evil against overperforming 2800 ELO Rapha (we all know how we become stronger exactly when our opps is becoming weaker).

Edited by iavoal at 08:29 CDT, 26 July 2015

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weltschmerz - Reply to #1020

But that's exactly what I meant. Take him out of his comfort zone and he immediately becomes vulnerable in a disproportionate manner. And what is his comfort zone? His place at home probably, with his usual setup, and a dominating role ingame early on, where he can pick his battles around the items well prepared and, inbetween, throw some surprise rails at opponents who are trying to recover.

That's exactly the point, Take him one step off the beaten path and there's some serious risk that his well tuned game falls apart. Adaptability and improvisation, the ability to somehow compensate for unexpected inconveniences or other surprises, that's the major weakness.

And yes, I do prefer rapha-dahang over cypher-evil any day. You know why? Because those two guys respect each other. The crap that's been going on between cypher and evil for some time now - and presumably between cypher and the russians in general - is pretty offputting, to say the least. And while I'm no no way really informed about the details I feel inclined to not particularly blame cypher for that dire state of affairs.

Edited by weltschmerz at 09:06 CDT, 26 July 2015

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iavoal - Reply to #1029

Touché. Cypher's been so inadeqately offensive to Evil that he even got an official penalty from admins of 125 fps (which evil never got) but it definitely makes rapha's style more preferable. Now we see some real point behind your logic shells. You simply judge them as a personalities, not a players. To my mind it's a little bit funny comparing the sportsmen's playstyles by criteria of being good role-model or not. It's like claiming that an artist must be a good husband, employee and a neighbor so I might love his art. Who the f cares? As if you're gonna be his father in the law.

Edited by iavoal at 09:50 CDT, 26 July 2015

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weltschmerz - Reply to #1044

Sorry, but sports and sportsmanship are kind of inseparable for me. I don't really need it coming decorated with craptalk. It spoils the show, if you know what I mean.

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iavoal - Reply to #1047

Well, the sides agreed on having a disagreement.

I could only point out that it was a clear substitution of concepts, we started discussing sportsmen talents and technical abilities comparing to each other, which was really interesting and had some theoretical value and then you ended up comparing their heights of moral principles, pointing everything to craptalk while this craptalk of yours only existed from the cypher's side - afaik, evil didnt even responded to any of these endless insults not once in these endless 125 finals.

I'm not even an evil fan, so to speak, and speaking of personalities i personally think czm and fazz are the most funny yet profound dudes in the scene, but to my mind its not that interesting topic, cause its only a matter of taste.

Thanks for opinion, though.

Edited by iavoal at 10:57 CDT, 26 July 2015

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weltschmerz - Reply to #1055

I'm not suggesting that cypher was an angel, but I believe it's common wisdom that he can be easily provoked. evil is just more clever about how to go about this, when spamming his smileys and whatever.

And what do you want? You asked me if I would prefer rapha-dahang over cypher-evil. I said yes and told you why. What's wrong with that? Do you want to question the legitimacy of my reasons now, for why I would have this or that personal preference?

Fact is, the cypher-evil rivalry has become boring as hell. Each time they meet each other this guy here considers doing his long overdue taxes.

Edited by weltschmerz at 11:04 CDT, 26 July 2015

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iavoal - Reply to #1067

I was talking about quakers playstyles all the road and asked you what combination, what clash of these playstyles would you prefer, R-D or C-E. For proving your point, you started pushing the center of the discussion more and more towards their personal qualities. Ah, nevermind.

Fact is it DID became boring as permanent limbo. As 2gd said years ago about ql on some faceit, its always, always the very same ridiculous amount of players here with their very same ridiculous dramas between them while there are literally game of thrones happening in other scenes. But we dont know even where to put our hopes, ID is dead and rotts in the consoles already, Overwatch will be too cartoonish and newby-friendly, maybe next UT.

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weltschmerz - Reply to #1081

The problem presumably is players being stuck in that eternal circle of trying to prove who's the best. If you go back a couple of years you'll recall how cypher was primarily known as rocket boy. Then came evil with his shaft stunts. And suddenly cypher started focusing on shaft, to counter that.

At that point there was some mutual fertilization. A constructive rivalry, if you will. But those days are long over. One reason certainly being that players will only spend so much time on improving their game, due to the little money involved these days. Bringing the competition to a point where it isn't really about being the best player anymore, but rather about who's best given the least possible investment, in terms of time and effort.

That's probably not particularly motivating, and I guess that it shows. People should really rally together and enjoy the time as long as it lasts. In a constructive manner.

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iavoal - Reply to #1093

Yes, that's reasonable and mature evaluation of how nowadays quake scene should work in the ideal world.

It even works that way a little, if you look at all community-driven great things that we had these years, awesome, totally altruistic and really helping the game: Lvl up, Faceit, 2gd show (few first shows), 125 fps with immortal Alexey A., 102 project, Zlive, King of the Hill show, Qlranks, QLTV, Thorin interviews, Memento Mori analyzes, Twister studies, spawn visualisation, Prague lans, Stermy's lan, Moscow lans, Quake Renaissance Cup, Winz sending Evil to 2013 qcon, 2gd and MM sending AVG to 2015 qcon, all these streams by top-quakers, tens of them, succesful donation-driven trips, you name it, all these kind gents and honorauble organisations literally been keeping the game alive, a game that was avandoned by its own creators decades ago.

But the competition of highest lvl is not working due to these principles of greater good for everybody. The only reason that a young man would spend better years in his life on training could be supervaluable idea, such as unquestionable world domination. The less the resources, the fiercer the competition, and nowadays there is enough money in quake only for 1 single dueller to actually live on it.

And if everybody will just relax, all the bad blood will go away, but so will the level of competition, i guess. What motivators would have left if there are neither money not the good-old hatred? Friends do not really compete, cause nobody wants to destroy each other and shit on a grave. Part of the problem is within a nature of competition itself.

There will be times when QL turns into Quakeworld and becomes a hobby of a few gentle entusiasts. It will be soon enough.

Edited by iavoal at 14:02 CDT, 26 July 2015

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weltschmerz - Reply to #1097

Sorry, I can't really follow that reasoning. You're making it sound as if hatred was a driving force behind competition. But as I'm seeing it competition is about acquiring resources and/or possibly prove to yourself what you're capable of. Like testing your limits.

It's true that people might generally not be appreciative of obstacles standing in the way. But that's merely a byproduct, and not even a useful one. In particular, what you're saying there doesn't make the slightest lick of sense to me. Sorry.

Edited by weltschmerz at 14:39 CDT, 26 July 2015

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iavoal - Reply to #1100

Right, thank you for sharing your ideals.

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weltschmerz - Reply to #1103

You know, it's really kind of saddening to see those Eastern Europeans constantly build factions and make it look like competition was about humiliating each other, or trying to prove anything to each other or to the world or whomever. I mean, I'm sure even now, after seeing evil being decimated and schooled at qcon, none of those guys will ask themselves what might be wrong with that approach.

Well, just let them get on with it then, because soon enough they'll be the only ones left populating the quake "arena". And I doubt that, apart from themselves, many people will be interested to see what more repetitive and aimless bullshit they might be pulling off there.

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iavoal - Reply to #1143

I'll try one last time, because you seem to be a reasonable person from your witty comments in other topics.

I am personally not a fan of trash-talks, esport-dramas and cocky behavior, this is just low. I, myself, as a player in any game, always treat my opponents with respect. As a part of the quake community i always try to support the game, promote it wherever i could, donate for the players to visit lans, blah-blah-blah, et cetera.

And I sure would happy to see a healthier and more sophisticated atmosphere on the top of quake scene, for example, how it’s between the chess players - they're competing with each other, but they’re always friendly and every press-conference after the games is a real fun to watch, with all the classy jokes, clever pins and so on. Enemy on the board - jolly acquaintances within its limits.

Quake, however, is not croquet on a horse, or golf on a turtles, not even chess. It’s always been a kind of working-class game, with teens as a main population, if you still haven't noticed. And now it’s not even a sport anymore, there are zero events, zero sponsors, zero anything and quakers are not even actual sportsmen any longer, just players and top-players. And we don’t have some other top-quakers for you, sorry. Get on with it.
Yes, we mustn’t tolerate inappropriate things and I personally wrote to Nico so he would prevent further insults in a 125fps games with a penalties. But get real. In the end this is just a game and a game mostly filled with angry sublimating teens, (or angry sublimating ex-teens), this is not some beautiful chevalier’s contest of role-models in shiny armors. You go into Diner for a good burger and you go into some sophisticated wine-bar for good Rioja. You don’t just demand your good Rioja in a Diner, don’t you?

Quake is not a Second Life, not a model to build an ideal world. With such an approach it’s easy to become another Heartless that seeks a girlfriend but not just a girlfriend, it should be a girlfriend that plays quake with an ELO not lower than a certain amount.

And these your generalizations about the eastern, western or whatever, underground Europeans are just not in my taste.

Edited by iavoal at 07:55 CDT, 27 July 2015

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weltschmerz - Reply to #1151

I'll try one last time, because you seem to be a reasonable person from seemingly having found reason to buddy me some time back.

Quake, like any other competitive activity, is about winning, and nothing else. Any secondary goal, even more so any secondary goal taking the primary spot, is a self-imposed burden. A hindrance. And if you wanted to have any secondary goal at all it would be this: good entertainment for the general audience (which, btw, I suppose doesn't entirely consist of glue sniffing trailer park groupies). In particular, all those ego battle sideshows over there in Eastern Europe, are of no use whatsoever. Quite the contrary.

But don't get me wrong. It's been kind of amusing to see those russians nullify each other pretty much before the tournament had even started. You really have to wonder though why they had come at all. They could have just continued arguing about who's the best and biggest back at home, without making sponsors - you do realize there still are some, you just named some above - wonder what kind of entertainment that is they're supposed to pay for.

But hey, why not? And seeing that asshat agent taking sniper shots at his own fellow countrymen from behind - who pulled that divisive dork out from under his rock again by the way, I thought we were permanently relieved from him for good? - surely made for a nice addition.

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iavoal - Reply to #1156

As you did not replied to any of the points I made, it feels like you are talking to yourself and I’m not going to interrupt any further. I’m not even advocating any of these pricks like agent, cypher, evil, why should i.

They ain’t representing shit. So as cocky loktar, strenx, being a cunt for life, linkin, being racist on his stream (as I heard) and many others.

And you continue and continue using these generalizations about group of entirely different people, not worth even mentioning that Cypher is Belarusian, not Russian. That’s low.

All the best.

Edited by iavoal at 11:13 CDT, 27 July 2015

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weltschmerz - Reply to #1158

So what relevant points do you feel were left unreplied then? The wine and burger analogy? You can't be serious about that, can you? Because regarding the competitive and entertainment aspect, how is quake different from tennis for example? Or do you really think the game was exclusive to some idiots fapping off to trash talk? If so you can't really complain about support dwindling away I guess.

Look at rapha. Perfect sportsmanship whenever making a public appearance. Eloquent. And entirely focused on winning his crucial games. When seeing a chance and being in halfway good shape, he grabs it. Without need to feed an overblown ego. That's a marketable man, dear fellow. That's somebody any sponsor will gladly support.

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Anonymous (82.137.15.237) - Reply to #1158

You have to excuse them they are the new generation of libtards swallowing all those NGOs ideologies that their professors at the universities spoon feed them. That's why they hate East European people because East Europeans don't swallow their $hit. Ever noticed how all Western students i.e. have deep beliefs regarding the colonial past of Europe, when they are painters or doctors or anything else but NOT historians? It's the deep conviction that has been inoculated into them that in order to be a successful scientist in anything but history you have to be a genius and if you are a genius then all your opinions, including about the history of Europe, worth 100x the opinion of specialists in their respective field. You cannot reason with these people, the Western educational system who is corrupt erased their brain.

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Crotazzo - Reply to #1029

everytime i watch rapha - dahang it seems to me that they have really bad blood to each other... like they hate each other almost... anyone has any input on that? or its just me?

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nex1 ' - Reply to #867

For real, Rapha has liquid ice (!) running in his veins. He was lost in a lot of situations, Evil was devouring his stack with absurd pixel and flick rails, yet he not only kept his composture but even hazarded dangerous full attack moves while low on health.

Gotta give credit where it's due, lately i was swinging more on Cypher regarding the "best dueler" part, but now i'm seriously wondering if Rapha is.

Let's keep in mind he never dueled Dahang in at least a couple years, except the rare NA cup.

that's the most outstanding part.

Top player without top practice. A true Quaker.

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<< Comment #875 @ 22:21 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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scowl

Evil simply made more mistakes.

Some situations I remember from all 6 maps:

- letting rapha escape with <10 hp on Lostworld more than once
- going LG vs LG against rapha on the first Lostworld with a ~100 health disadvantage
- double rocketjump to RA fail on the second Elder which immediately cost him a frag because he was late to MH as a result
- ...

Gratz to rapha. I'm glad the list of Quakelive Quakecon champions stays as beautiful as it was:
cypher-rapha-cypher-rapha-cypher-rapha-cypher-rapha

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<< Comment #923 @ 23:39 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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FlashSoul - Reply to #875

Don't be silly. Players don't make mistakes against rapha, rapha just gets lucky.,

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<< Comment #956 @ 04:21 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SwarmDMX - Reply to #923

http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2465296#pid2465296

<< Comment #960 @ 04:44 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #875

"rapha made him do those mistakes..." (c) 2GD

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8952341

[09:12:32] <whoisweazul> GOODBYE RAPHA, GOODNIGHT SWEET PRINCE
[09:16:00] <Lambaro> to bad rapha not in good shape
[08:50:05] <YeII0w> SO HYPED FOR RAPHA GETTING HUMILIATED BY AN 11 YEARS OLD
[08:50:49] <whoisweazul> rapha's past it
[08:50:31] <CharlieeeBrown> rapha is too old now
[08:50:53] <k4kers_> rapha isnt in shape
[08:55:34] <whoisweazul> Rapha's washed up tho
[08:56:18] <Jasonmuan> rapha ugly
[09:00:42] <flockzy> oh good i see rapha is playing his 'im super predictable cause i pacman items' game today
[09:08:37] <Joe7s> ever since raffer camp raffer lose, he nervous
[09:08:37] <DrSlonik> third day of rapha's fail
[09:08:43] <Necrophag1st> rapha throwing away frags. what an idiot
[09:08:53] <penn1> rapha FailFish
[09:08:58] <Evilhush> rapha going to unistall
[09:09:06] <IlyaLts> RAPHA LOOSEER
[09:09:35] <whoisweazul> has rapha even played this game before?
[09:09:35] <Jasonmuan> rapha is straight ass. He cant aim for sheet.
[09:09:31] <snthss> and this guy is a favorite?
[09:10:05] <Nalipotanka> Rapha - its time that you retire :D
[09:10:11] <sackZEN> rapha? more like rekta
[09:10:48] <BannedHawk> bye bye rapha
[09:11:17] <whoisweazul> rapha's so washed up now ha

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<< Comment #922 @ 23:38 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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FlashSoul - Reply to #877

The more success you have, the more haters you earn.

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SigningOff - Reply to #922

Yeah, sheet, just look at fatal1ty. That dog makes monee, dude!

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<< Comment #879 @ 22:28 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

fuck.. now im even more sad that zorak of war put himself into the lava. He would have knocked out the duel grand champion early on.

ZORAKKKKKKKKKKKKK WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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<< Comment #893 @ 22:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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liveth

GG and WP rapha
evil made some pressure and almost always was very intense and unpredicitble, but he seemed too nervous
in some close moments rapha's calmness and confidence got him the win
elder though wasn't a good map choice for Quakecon , it need fixes as the key is a massive imba and the spawns are abusable

<< Comment #881 @ 22:32 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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magadog

Evil should have had sinister but his aim fell apart. yes he made some mistakes but his damage output wasn't good enough towards the middle of the game IIRC.

Rapha's strategy and movement was first class. He just played lights out. That play near the MH towards the end of DM13 to give him 2 frag lead was balls out. A couple other things he did, esp on elder were first class balls out moves too. You can call him a plus back player, but damn he knows when to make a move and put it on the line.

Evil should get some money out of this. It's just not right. It's not right because he keeps the quake scene alive by being active so much and giving us so many good games. He's always there and I feel like people take him for granted.

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<< Comment #940 @ 01:55 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #881

Did you see evil after that pause? He walked around MH, didn't even bother looking at it, ate a direct rocket and kept walking.

I *think* that pause knocked his game over

<< Comment #1181 @ 11:22 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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magadog - Reply to #940

IIRC, looked like he was just running towards the tele hallway. Not strafe jumping or anything. If he were expecting the mh to spawn, he would be expecting rapha. But it looked like he wasn't expecting rapha to be where he was. So I don't know wtf that was all about.

Another major mistake he made imo was when Rapha tried to steal the mh with like 4:30 left (evil was leading by 2) and evil damaged rapha severly for it. Evil got mh and took rapha down to like 20 hp. Evil had 110 hp. Rapha was stuck in the mh room with only one exit basically, the gl exit. And evil just let him go and ran toward the rail pad. Evil didn't have lg but he had full pg. He could have killed rapha with one or two (three at most) plasma bolts and took a direct rocket or rail himself without dying. Even if evil died he would leave rapha crippled and spawn in a good position to get the kill back.

But evil let rapha go and then died at RA like 15 seconds later.

Edited by magadog at 11:24 CDT, 28 July 2015

<< Comment #954 @ 04:14 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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M1zzu ' - Reply to #881

Evil should get some money out of this. It's just not right.

I agree. Same for teams getting 2nd/3rd place in the other modes (overall performance included). Making it 5k - 2k - 1k would have been fair I feel.

It's not right because he keeps the quake scene alive by being active so much and giving us so many good games. He's always there and I feel like people take him for granted.

125fps pays him pretty good the rest of the year. Case in point, he won 800$ for his win in the may-june league. Honestly, it would be quite interesting to see how much money evil amasses in online cups over the year.

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<< Comment #1168 @ 23:25 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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magadog - Reply to #954

Oh, that's good to know. You'd think the announcers should say what the stakes are before the matches start. Like "this one decides who will take home $200 bucks!". Makes the game more exciting to watch.

<< Comment #882 @ 22:32 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff

I've been laughing straight for the past 6 hours.
Bet I'll be laughing out the week.

HAHAHAAHA !!

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<< Comment #892 @ 22:43 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208)

evi is the real champion because he play his 50 percent but still the score was only one down in everymaps...in normal circumstance, I know Evi will outplay Rapha...

<< Comment #918 @ 23:22 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venim - Reply to #892

Just give it up. rapha beat him twice in this tournament and the finals in 2013.

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<< Comment #968 @ 05:03 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #892

So many anonymous here, trying to make excuses for cypher and evil.

rapha just is that good, out-braining evil time and time again !

and lol at the comment: "because he play his 50 percent ..."
lol, just LOL !

<< Comment #897 @ 22:44 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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fazz '

effortless won the raffle for 10k$ the second year in a row LOL :D

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<< Comment #899 @ 22:47 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #897

would take some effort to calculate the probability of that

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<< Comment #901 @ 22:47 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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wrong person - Reply to #897

joke about 'anything is possible'

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Anonymous (70.31.194.177) - Reply to #897

Fazz plz tell me you're kidding. This isn't real right ?

<< Comment #902 @ 22:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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nex1 ' - Reply to #897

Clearly rigged

<< Comment #905 @ 22:51 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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jamalz - Reply to #897

are you kidding????

Effortless defending his quakecon title ...

Edited by jamalz at 22:54 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #906 @ 22:52 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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megaman3 - Reply to #897

Really? Can't tell since it wasn't streamed.

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daytripper - Reply to #897

Impossibru!

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<< Comment #909 @ 22:54 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #897

That's why "effortless".

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phy1um - Reply to #897

Cypher can have his gamesense, I was Effortless' life sense.

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<< Comment #920 @ 23:31 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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h8m3 - Reply to #897

Lol?

<< Comment #931 @ 01:08 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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daytripper - Reply to #897

http://esreality.com/post/2753769/winning/

I mean what the flying fuck? This has to be rigged.

<< Comment #955 @ 04:15 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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M1zzu ' - Reply to #897

jeez, he's at a point where he could at least sponsor some duel cups, tbh.

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<< Comment #1019 @ 08:27 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (85.138.167.150) - Reply to #897

wow

syncerror let a cheater win for 2nd year in row?

syncerror name is what? someone call id. this is fake raffle.

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FlashSoul - Reply to #1019

Don't call id, call the police. This is a crime.

<< Comment #1059 @ 10:49 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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omek - Reply to #897

iirc he had 3 tickets last year, probably more than one this year too..

<< Comment #1070 @ 11:03 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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imdaniel - Reply to #897

He is now my true QuakeCon Hero!

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qwih - Reply to #897

i read this "LOL" with fazz's voice

<< Comment #903 @ 22:48 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz

You guys noticed, when Willits announced that intel dud to hold his majorly important speech, how evil was already on his way out? I lol'd, and he was right to do so. Seeing how he got no money at all. That prize money distribution scheme of all this was majorly disgusting. Repeat: MAJORLY DISGUSTING!

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<< Comment #917 @ 23:20 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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Venim - Reply to #903

Ya the prize distribution was kinda shit. I guess they felt they didn't need to because of ctf and tdm? That's stupid as fuck.

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<< Comment #908 @ 22:53 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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mc1nder

Evil too emotionally unstable. He shakes like k1llsen and his movement/aim completely off.

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<< Comment #911 @ 23:02 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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nex1 ' - Reply to #908

Actually i'd say his rail was unreal. He just spams a lot, he never wastes time picking his shots, he just flicks as fast as he can and hit.
When someone picks a shot and land it, in the same timeframe Evil shoots twice and hit at least once and maybe the second too. If it works, it works.

His movement was kind of sloppy, but almost all players get that in tense situations. I think what really cost him was missing some timings here and there, and mostly being too aggressive and careless around the corners, eating so many direct rockets.

<< Comment #1024 @ 08:39 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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fau - Reply to #908

It was 30 fps, rapha looked even more shaky and flicky. Hard to compare to vods in 60fps. He certainly didn't miss his shaft and rails too much.

<< Comment #912 @ 23:02 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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sober

WP RAPHA & EVIL

Edited by sober at 05:36 CDT, 26 July 2015

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<< Comment #1052 @ 10:25 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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sonic - Reply to #912

HEAD LIKE A FUCKING ORANGE

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<< Comment #915 @ 23:14 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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iavoal

Rapha showed the champion's will. He did not hesitated even for a second, took risks right when he ought to and simply dictated the pace and the character of a game from the beginning to the very end.
It was not about percents or health and armor counters. That's what mattered the most.

Evil was scared, it seems. He did not feel comfortable at all playing at the stage, he obviously had difficulties adapting to a new setup. And it seems, like the endless hours of waiting and the new setup impacted his game too much. This is not an excuse, though, if you're competing at a highest level, you have to make yourself to show peak performance when it matters the most. Rapha was in the very same conditions but managed to save enough energy through meditation, healthy sleeping, molesting the volunteers or whatever he did.

However, WP for unquestionably outplaying Cypher on lan, that means a lot. Evil seemed to somehow burned out after making this happen. I wish him find a way to perform at max till the very end in the future lans if there would be any.

Funny thing, it was Cooller that said long time ago (after qcon announcment) on some stream that this year mappool favours Rapha a lot. So, lets take a look: in these two finals Rapha played 6 maps, 2 of them being Lost Worlds (his home planet), 1 Sinister (very control-heavy map easy to defend at), 2 Elders (like, a Palace of +backing) and 1 Blood Run (the elder twin of Sinister). Anton's been "talking it (c)".

Edited by iavoal at 23:19 CDT, 25 July 2015

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<< Comment #921 @ 23:38 CDT, 25 July 2015 >>

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EddieF4 - Reply to #915

Rapha definitely showed his critics he's still the best.

While I agree the mappool favors rapha's style, it's not like rapha's a one trick pony.

We've seen him beat the best on "aim" maps.

Even if toxicity, hektik and aerowalk are thrown in, those are not exactly "weak" maps for rapha.

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<< Comment #928 @ 00:43 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208) - Reply to #921

rapha is not the best seriously...Cypher beat him much more time and won much more tournaments...

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SigningOff - Reply to #928

yeah, "the best" ofc finishing 6th and takes no money at all. That's a true champ. lol.

cypher constant trash talk vs evil has caught up to him, he doesn't deserve the title as the best dueller in the world.

rapha showed how to play the game, outbraining evil.

sneaky and smart > loud and dumb

sneaky and smart doesn't apply to cooller who yet again fails at lan.

<< Comment #1049 @ 10:01 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #964

cypher may not deserve the title as best dueller in the world, but he is. end of story.

your fanboism is hilarious :D

<< Comment #1106 @ 15:27 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #1049

but you're still a joke, hitsu.

<< Comment #1120 @ 19:25 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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hitsu - Reply to #1106

like i care about your opinion :-)

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SigningOff - Reply to #1120

it's just the facts, not really my opinion, bro.

<< Comment #924 @ 00:15 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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cerno - Reply to #921

With the rails rapha was hitting in those matches I could see him giving any of the other players at least a run for their money on aerowalk or toxicity.

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<< Comment #925 @ 00:26 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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myT - Reply to #921

Imho, rapha is an absolute beast on toxicity.

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<< Comment #926 @ 00:38 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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magadog - Reply to #925

Rapha is known for a strong tox game. T7 too. The only map I can think of that rapha isn't very strong at is aero (against the best).

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SigningOff - Reply to #926

rapha was the best aero player back in quake 3.

Now the map plays differently because of the changes they made to it for quake live.

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<< Comment #987 @ 06:31 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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zealot - Reply to #965

huh? no, he wasn't.

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<< Comment #994 @ 07:29 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #987

yeah he was.

<< Comment #1009 @ 08:05 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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pz - Reply to #994

Hi rapha, sup

czm was.

<< Comment #1010 @ 08:12 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #1009

in 2006 yeah for sure, but not in 2008.

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zealot - Reply to #1010

czm was for the longest time known as the best aero player by far, cherry picking some year won't change that. after that, cypher kind of made it his own.

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SigningOff - Reply to #1134

czm was for sure like I said the best aero player until he stopped playing in 2006.
In 2008 spart1e was a better aero player than cypher. Remember that famous cypher quote: Proud?
Spart1e owned him so bad on aerowalk in ESWC MoA.
But rapha was the overall better player on that map.

In Quake Live like I said, there was a few changes made so it played differently than aerowalk/hub in Quake 3.

And yes I agree with you that cypher was the better player on aerowalk in quake live, but that wasn't the case in Quake 3.

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zealot - Reply to #1138

no, the list goes something like this:

qw: reppie
q2: who the fuck cares
q3: czm
ql: cypha
q4: didn't happen

Edited by zealot at 06:18 CDT, 27 July 2015

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SigningOff - Reply to #1145

clueless.

you got it backwards.

But I do agree on czm dominating everyone on hub up until 2007, but after that the list is this:

rapha > spart1e > cypher > czm

<< Comment #927 @ 00:43 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (71.204.66.51) - Reply to #915

1. There are no maps that Rapha is weak on.
2. Evil didn't burnt out. In fact he played very well in the final. It is just Rapha played nearly flawlessly.

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<< Comment #936 @ 01:36 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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EddieF4 - Reply to #927

Well if evil burnt out, then that's his fault really.
Both players went through the same schedule and I daresay evil probably didn't focus as much on team modes as rapha did for quakecon which leaves him more time to duel so no excuses.

Rapha has time and time again proven he's a worthy champion but because he doesn't play the "OMGZCRAZYPLAYSHOT" style, he's not as respected as a champion should be.

Evil did play his best and really didn't seem to have made many major mistakes but rapha just was better.

Get ready for doom 4 as the main competition mode next year. I would be surprised if quake returns next year.

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<< Comment #949 @ 04:07 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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wrong person - Reply to #915

DaHanG said the same thing in his interview:

I think the map-list benefits rapha the most though.

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<< Comment #974 @ 05:19 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #949

yeah, seeing as rapha really doesn't have a weak map.

I'd say cure, but that map is just dull, ugly and bad as hell.
glad they threw that out.

also, everyone know rapha is very well practiced on Lost World, Furious Heights, Blood Run, Campgrounds, Vetrtical Vengence, Toxicity and Hektik. That doesn't leave much choice for the map pool.

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<< Comment #1039 @ 09:22 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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nex1 ' - Reply to #915

Let's get things straight; did you even see Rapha playing on Hektick or Toxicity? One could argue Toxicity is Rapha's strongest ( and favourite) map.

He's everywhere and nowhere in a second on that map.

Hektick? After two minutes the opponent is sick for the vertical angles and teleporter relocation, and Rapha is materializing everywhere rocket jumping up to teleporters and flicking rails and rockets at every exit.

Rapha is even stronger on fast maps, he's mentally fast. He makes up for missing shots by constantly repositioning and being on the items faster.

Aerowalk is an exception because it's easier to keep track of the opponent and it's more aim based.

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<< Comment #1062 @ 10:55 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #1039

I just shared some coollers opinion, dude, while some dahang seemed to think the same.

These are 2 different statements:
- Rapha had an unfair advantage because his best maps where chosen to be a qcon mappool and he's really bad at any other map.
- Over these endless rotations of maps during all these years of Dreamhacks, QCON's, IEM's and so on, this very year of 2015 the qcon's mappool rouletted maps that suit rapha the best.

You seem to argue for some reason with the first while the one i shared was the 2nd.

<< Comment #1069 @ 11:02 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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nex1 ' - Reply to #1062

Rapha isn't bad on ANY map. That's the point. And on small, fast paced maps like Hecktik, Toxicity or House of Decay he's even better than on slower maps.

Also the mappol isn't unfair advantage. It's the same for all. And it was announced with enough time to prepare adequately. His best map is Toxicity, and it wasn't even in the mappool. Is it his fault if one of his best map is ZTN, which coincidentally the best map for the majority of the quakers? I guess so, if you hate him.

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<< Comment #1082 @ 11:52 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #1069

Back to school, son, like, now, until you learn the patience to read properly. Then reread #1057.

Rapha is a great champion, maybe, the greatest of all, why would a sane lover of quake hate him.

<< Comment #929 @ 00:43 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (173.73.221.208)

they even get rid of aerowalk where cypher excelled at for americans....it's so unfair...

<< Comment #946 @ 03:18 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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FlashSoul - Reply to #929

You mean the tournament players from all around the world voted to keep aero out just to give the Americans an advantage over cypher? The world really must hate cypher.

<< Comment #1028 @ 08:58 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #929

I love how 90 plus percent of the comments against rapha are from anonymous thanks for pussying out

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<< Comment #1107 @ 15:31 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #1028

yeah.

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<< Comment #934 @ 01:18 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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temporon

Truly amazing. rapha showed the true champion that he is by winning both the duel stage of the tournament, and the Grand Master Duel Finals. What an amazing performance--rapha performs when and where it counts, when the pressure is greatest, and the stakes are the highest. He is truly the best Quake player of all time.

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<< Comment #935 @ 01:27 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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kaboom

swiss system wasnt the best choice for duel, even though rapha showed his skills

gg

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<< Comment #937 @ 01:37 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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johnny83

Found this video on youtube http://youtu.be/59xvohk46D8 all duels until the last grand final.

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<< Comment #998 @ 07:34 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Lacceh - Reply to #937

5:31:13

?...

<< Comment #1105 @ 15:12 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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kodisha - Reply to #937

CAPTURE THE LAG Kappa

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Nuked User

* N U K E D *

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<< Comment #939 @ 01:53 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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nkvd - Reply to #938

lmao, haters gonna hate

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<< Comment #944 @ 02:29 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Zarathustra - Reply to #938

what kind of a depressed and neurotic moron are you? Go back to NOT searching for therapy although you'd need it.

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<< Comment #1094 @ 12:32 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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skulp - Reply to #944

ffs now I'll never know if I should plus this

<< Comment #1077 @ 11:16 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #938

He won vs cypher on LAN, he messed him so bad he was unable to perfom after and ended out of the grand final. Thats huge.

<< Comment #942 @ 02:23 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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PopeJo

...well, at least the TDM and CTF streams were fun

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<< Comment #947 @ 03:46 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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mouse*

can someone give me the results of the grand final, maps and scores and some highlights?

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SigningOff - Reply to #947

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Edited by Skinny_Puppy at 05:20 CDT, 26 July 2015

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<< Comment #951 @ 04:08 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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ripley_pug

wp rapha & evil... good final, but rapha definitely has evil's number.

<< Comment #958 @ 04:34 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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fuzz

What the fuck? Who won what why how? Why didn't players like strenx, demon, zero4, pavel, noctis, spartie play? What is happening?

<< Comment #959 @ 04:37 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Zarathustra - Reply to #958

You are so late to the party... Just watch the VOD and you'll see...

<< Comment #963 @ 04:50 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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harosh

Well thank god that shit is over - worst quakecon ever, which is saying something.

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<< Comment #971 @ 05:09 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #963

you are so potat.

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harosh - Reply to #971

my hung over morning rage had to speak out

I'm drunk again now so it's all okay again

<< Comment #966 @ 04:57 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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sleepii

not a rapha fan but g_G I guess... spamming rockets and grenades for 30 mins through chokepoints usually works well vs aggressive players.
Also, I wouldn't give a single dime to his cunting teammates, besides psygib, id give half to psygib.

<< Comment #967 @ 04:57 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Bob

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Edited by Bob at 11:40 CDT, 26 June 2024

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #967

Per rules, it should be 2k for his teammates, 10k for him (2k+8k).

Edited by gSTRUCTOR at 11:15 CDT, 26 July 2015

<< Comment #969 @ 05:04 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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TnG_Magick

VODs for the grand-grand final?
...for the 2nd time Rapha and Evil played...
Has anyone found those?

Please NO SPOILERS : )))

<< Comment #976 @ 05:22 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #969

well, there's spoilers everywhere in this thread. ~~but I haven't seen any vods yet on the grand finals~~.

Edit, btw it's here:
http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8572558

begins at 16:35.

Edited by Skinny_Puppy at 05:25 CDT, 26 July 2015

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TnG_Magick - Reply to #976

Thanks!
You're awesome!

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TnG_Magick - Reply to #1005

Oh Evil... ffs.

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Badb0y - Reply to #976

there are also up more splitted vods from the final.

<< Comment #972 @ 05:11 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff

Oh please, where is that vod or demo of dahang mopping the floor with cooller?

<< Comment #978 @ 05:47 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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nvc

Congratulations Rapha!

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<< Comment #980 @ 05:53 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Yellack

Was great seeing TDM/CTF and duel! Fix the system and it would be perfect. I really hope theres another QL tournament next year.

ggs & wp
peace out

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<< Comment #984 @ 05:56 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Cwiru

Thanks to that great system, Pavel, Strenx, Clawz, dem0n, spartie, Noctis didnt play, and we miss many great matches. Dreamhack is no more, so thats painfull even more

Edited by Cwiru at 05:56 CDT, 26 July 2015

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<< Comment #988 @ 06:32 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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well oiled

125fps is better than QuakeCon.

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<< Comment #999 @ 07:34 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #988

Ooo, so drenched in bitterness.

I guess The 'Muricans showed the euros how Quake is meant to be played.

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skint - Reply to #999

.... in 1v1

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Anonymous (72.202.205.236) - Reply to #1006

the north americans teams beat themselves long before quakecon started.

Deleted by Badb0y at 09:17 CDT, 26 July 2015

<< Comment #1013 @ 08:26 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (87.17.176.96) - Reply to #999

ahahah, with this format? plz man...

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<< Comment #1061 @ 10:54 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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odellus - Reply to #999

i agree with him. this was one of the worst quakecons ever.

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<< Comment #1074 @ 11:11 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Ian215 - Reply to #999

The format worked well (decently) with team tornaments because the teams level was clear (1-2 top, 1-2 good), in the duel (with 3-4 top and 2-3 good players) failed badly

<< Comment #1018 @ 08:26 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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TYR

Come on. Where are all the duel demos? Has the world reached a point where demos doesn't matter anymore? :(

<< Comment #989 @ 06:38 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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frs

tox and rapha the true champs of quake

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<< Comment #1016 @ 08:26 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (87.17.176.96) - Reply to #989

and cypher.

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FlashSoul - Reply to #1016

cypher, that player who didn't do anything spectacular in the team modes and lost to evil and dahang in the duel part?

EDIT : I guess I'm a little unfair though since he said "quake", not "quakecon".

Edited by FlashSoul at 18:39 CDT, 26 July 2015

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T1E - Reply to #989

what did tox do?

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frs - Reply to #996

besides winning tdm and ctf and being a legend of q3 tdm and q4 duel, he's a down to earth champ you can root for in every situation

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<< Comment #1110 @ 16:04 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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mouse* - Reply to #1000

also the best aimer in the world

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<< Comment #1164 @ 16:19 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ - Reply to #1110

That would be evil, hands down, and I dotn even like his playstyle. Best all-around aim.

Tox rockets are borderline pathetic for a top-player.

But yea, noobs are usually easily impressed by LG/RG accs, thats why Tox is the so-called best aimer

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mouse* - Reply to #1164

obvious troll is obvious, i checked out your account, you obviously know shit about the game and everything you say is insulting.- ignore list, bait someone else.

Edited by mouse* at 02:07 CDT, 28 July 2015

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mattered_ - Reply to #1170

Lol yes, run away like u ran away from CTFpickup

<< Comment #1017 @ 08:26 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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radalopovica

Quakecon this year ....common you cant be serious . No wonder Rapha won he loves everything in this world. FFA next year ?

<< Comment #991 @ 06:52 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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zlr

I enjoyed the TDM / CTF far more than I would have thought, enjoyed it more than the duel. I think introducing a more team based element to quake tournaments and incorporating that into duels as well was a good idea, but I also think it could have been executed a bit better.

Edited by zlr at 22:36 CDT, 26 July 2015

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<< Comment #1111 @ 16:18 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (95.95.185.202) - Reply to #991

Same feeling here. With teams of this caliber showing up, duel become a fantastic supplement for the team modes (instead of the other way around).

<< Comment #1015 @ 08:26 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (5.44.199.132)

Same bullshit every Quakecon year.A few short streams covering some games and a grand final.So if i worked and want to watch from the beginning? oh 2 months from now i might find it on the tube....

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<< Comment #1038 @ 09:21 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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phy1um - Reply to #1015

Demos are already up for the first 2 days. Duel won't be far behind. We just don't have anywhere to play them.

<< Comment #1014 @ 08:26 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (95.108.61.230)

Gratz to Rapha! - brilliant play and huge balls - he was well prepared for this quakecon. Hope Cypher delivers next time as only him and Rapha can fight for the greatest quake player ever title.

how does that timeout tasted, evil =)? online hero.

also lol at tox fanboys - same story, outbrained and outrailed by cypher.

terrible idea this tournament system, though, Previous years way better - who could have imagined...

<< Comment #1001 @ 07:38 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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godjiro

Still going through the VODs for the TDM and CTF, but the Duel was great. Yeah, there could have been more exciting matches in the group stages, but there were pretty good ones already.

GG to Zorak - nice upsets good skill overall.

Rapha took it like the boss he is and proved that QuakeCon is the home turf. Those pats on the back were well deserved.

Shame that Cypher could not show more, but hey - sometimes you win, sometimes you lose.

evil came prepared for the duel, but had no idea how this tournament was organized and how it worked. At least that's my impression judging by his team. Was there no other team at all wanting him? Did he really come only for the duel?

<< Comment #1003 @ 07:41 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Tripleight

Bitch please, this fucking format.

Cypher played Tox, Evil, Dahang. While Rapha played only Dahang, Evil, only 1 euro and rest Americans which he already had a shit-ton of practice against. If in place of Evil/Dahang there would be a grand-master silver stomping level Chance, I'd fucking say Cypher would rape his ass 3:0 and be in the finals.

I'm not saying Cypher didn't lose square and fair to the top tier duelers, what I'm saying he could have been in the grand finals with a slightly less tough match up, irrelevant of his performance against the top tier.

Shitty fucking format.

Edited by Tripleight at 07:48 CDT, 26 July 2015

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<< Comment #1027 @ 08:55 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #1003

why did cypher lose against dahang. i dont get it.

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quaesada - Reply to #1003

Chance's opponents: Zereck, Rapha, Vodkax, Bronson
Dahang's opponents: Cooller, Rapha, Cypher, Doomsd4y
Cypher's opponents: dkt, Tox, Evil, Dahang

Chance: 3rd
Dahang: 4th
Cypher: 6th

=]

Edited by quaesada at 09:12 CDT, 26 July 2015

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<< Comment #1033 @ 09:13 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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frs - Reply to #1003

rapha beat evil twice and dahang once, cypher lost to both. format was shit though

<< Comment #1108 @ 15:36 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #1003

seeing as rapha met both dahang and evil and won them both. Cypher wasn't even close to winning agaisnt them.

See?

<< Comment #1007 @ 07:51 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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<< Comment #1008 @ 07:58 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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xoji

Best Quakecon in a long time. This tournament format wasn't perfect but it was pretty damn close. Loved that it came down to the very last few games to decide an overall winner. All 3 modes were exciting to follow.

Thanks to everyone involved in making it happen. Was a pleasure to follow.

Rapha did it again :

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Edited by xoji at 11:09 CDT, 26 July 2015

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<< Comment #1012 @ 08:26 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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jukkhop

Very impressed with rapha's performance. Too bad he didn't get to prove himself against cypher and cooller.

Evil on the other hand clearly unable to play to his strengths at the tournament.

<< Comment #1078 @ 11:20 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #1012

now it's no doubt he can... just rapha was too unreal

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Anonymous (82.137.12.87)

Hating patriotism in the favor of something so-called "higher" is like adoring to be a citizen of your town while despising your family. There are no magical jumps. Caring for your country does not mean caring for something just because you were born "here". It means caring for who you are, which you do it anyway, in a strange inversed way. When you show patriotism you show respect to yourself, to who you are, and to the people who share common values with you, closer than other values, like culture, history, religion, and to a certain degree genetic material. Showing respect to your parents and grandparents who many volunteered to go fight the enemies of your country, you know those enemies who wanted to enslave your people and forcefully convert you to a different religion and way of life and maybe to assimilate your people into extinction. Showing respect to the sacrifices they made so you might one day exist and enjoy the country they were building for ungrateful ones. Showing respect to the ones any decent person should owe to show. Patriotism ultimately is born out of the instinct of survival. And like it or not, people who share common values quantitatively are more prone to get along with each other than the opposite. Just because the US is "diverse" like the elite likes to call and transform it through destructive political decisions does not mean that nations should be erased and everything should be flatten out through so-called "fair policies" and "redistribution", this is disrespectful to the natural laws and also to mankind. And this is also a lie, for the more you pack together different categories the higher the number the higher become the differences and the higher they all fight to get on top, struggling for their identity.
You think that by condemning patriotism you become a soldier of humanity, while in reality if you cannot be a patriot than you prove that you are not fit for a complex social relationship with your fellow people and you become the enemy of humanity you pretend to represent. Decent people should avoid progressives, not letting them poison the mind of weak people or undecided young with supremacist ideologies -supremacist because pretending to speak in the name of all the people of the Earth, in the name of "humanity" instead speaking in the of your fellow countrymen is ignoring people close to you in the name of distant abstract ideas, which is a supremacist ideology.

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outside

Was a great final. Evil seemed a little stressed, eg. in Elder where he missed the rj to RA 2 times in a row.

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Anonymous (212.95.7.76)

swiss tournament was weired. at least they tried and risekd something new. was fail, though. we wont see that again.

i like evil's aggressive play, its really entertaining. rapha found smart counterplay, what a pity. unfortunately aggressive play wasnt rewarded )=

wp rapha & congratz

<< Comment #1037 @ 09:19 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Badb0y

we have over 1.000 posts in here. im happy! most of it is readable too :D

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<< Comment #1040 @ 09:33 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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cha0z_

GGs WP, but I can't help myself not to feel a little sad about the many GREAT duellers that didn't have a chance to play in the duel tournament... thriatlon is ok, but they should have made it as normal duel tournament with all the players can be played... :/

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<< Comment #1050 @ 10:09 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #1040

the same said rapha. its a waste and a missed opportunity. pavel, demon, strenx etc.

evil is 2nd and got a silver medal and a warm applause. LOL

Edited by Badb0y at 10:12 CDT, 26 July 2015

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cha0z_ - Reply to #1050

clawz, spart1e, doomsday, mesita, whaz, zero4, winz, l1nkin, silencep, noctis, fiend and even a few more can be entertaining to watch.... :)

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<< Comment #1041 @ 09:38 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Cwiru

where is that duel final vod ?

Edited by Cwiru at 09:38 CDT, 26 July 2015

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<< Comment #1051 @ 10:10 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #1041

long vod
http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/v/8572558

splitted here
http://www.twitch.tv/quakecon/profile

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<< Comment #1042 @ 09:39 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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lithz

Is there any duel stats yet?!

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<< Comment #1043 @ 09:44 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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jamalz

Can we get a show match next year if quakelive isn't the main tournament (doom 4 probably)

show match between Rapha and Cypher for like $10k

Just both of them best of 7.

Edited by jamalz at 12:07 CDT, 26 July 2015

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<< Comment #1053 @ 10:26 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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A1RMAN - Reply to #1043

Cypher, Rapha, Evil, Dahang would be good.

Edited by Airman at 10:26 CDT, 26 July 2015

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atomigo - Reply to #1043

Do you kick in the 10k?

Otherwise a great idea. Champs of the last... 100 million quakecons..

<< Comment #1046 @ 09:57 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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pacmanpl

We need a new game.

guiz...

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<< Comment #1096 @ 13:57 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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johnny83 - Reply to #1046

I think we need new life.

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<< Comment #1099 @ 14:35 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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iavoal - Reply to #1096

We need new we.

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<< Comment #1104 @ 14:54 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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pacmanpl - Reply to #1096

We can start from the start.
Together <3

<< Comment #1048 @ 10:01 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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gote321523

Really enjoyed watching the tdm and duel but wish there was a more round robin style approach to it as mentioned by rapha in one of his interviews. This kind of opportunity to get everyone to play everyone else probably won't happen again.

It was very interesting as evil made some key errors in the finals which directly led to him dropping control/frags. Rapha however was on point most of the time and just doesn't seem to make the mistakes, seamlessly going from run and hide to run and snipe ;).

All in all, great watch but wish there was more of it.

grats to rapha, well earnt!

<< Comment #1054 @ 10:31 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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StillBlaze

Rapha played unreal, he made all the correct reads and decisions and was generally always comfortable

Evil looked nervous and his aim looked to be really off, he easily got control back in games he let an early advantage go the other way, dont know why i felt a bit sad for him, probably cause he can play 10 times better and win

Hopefully everyone comes back bigger and stronger and we have a Russian Champion!

<< Comment #1057 @ 10:43 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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8952341 - Reply to #1054

evil DID look nervous. after a crucial death he showed a little bit of emotion/rage when the cam was on him

i mean, he had 2 years to prepare for a rematch final and get revenge.. but i guess its like the whole dahang vs cypher thing where the challenger has a mental block knowing his opponent beat him before in the final..

good showing though by evil, considering he wasn't even supposed to be at the tournament with no real team

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<< Comment #1083 @ 11:53 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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A1RMAN - Reply to #1057

Evil's experience on LAN cannot be compared to Cypher or Rapha. How many times did they lose on LAN, before they got that good?
So his performance is good. At least he ended "internet hero" debate and showed similar performance against Cypher as he gets online.

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<< Comment #1180 @ 10:34 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #1083

Evil doesn't just play since yesterday, dear fellow. He played q3 too. In particular, I seem to recall him participating in Asus Open cups.

Cypher - two years younger btw - was destined for winning pretty much from day one, placing 2nd at ESWC 2006. At the age of 16. Winning both, qcon and ESWC, just two years later. No way to compare those two. Wonderboy is an entirely different league.

Edited by weltschmerz at 10:35 CDT, 28 July 2015

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fau

I feel sad for evil leaving with his hands empty. He cleared the way for rapha by beating cypher and looked very strong overall.

Rapha and cypher are such a champions, if you want to win, you need to beat them before grand finals. Once rapha gets there he's just too fast, too smart, too clutch. Pressure only makes him stronger. Evil had a good chance for double victory in his bracket game against rapha and blew it.

Edited by fau at 10:44 CDT, 26 July 2015

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<< Comment #1178 @ 09:54 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #1056

rapha just follows the number one rule of the accomplished prize fighter - evade the opponents punches. When able to do that it doesn't really matter that much anymore how hard of a hitter he is.

That's really the main thing he does. Don't let your opponents pick the fights, pick them yourself. Be the first to shoot, from positions you can easily pull out from the moment the shooting back commences.

Outclassed. Literally.

<< Comment #1060 @ 10:53 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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nex1 '

Btw thanks for all the lag. Unwatchable vods.

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<< Comment #1065 @ 10:58 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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odellus

i like how they managed to mess up literally every aspect of the stream for the grand final. dropped the framerate to 30 from 60, fucked up the config completely, and the overlay looked like it was 120p. what the actual fuck.

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<< Comment #1068 @ 11:02 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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oskid

What TDM and CTF matches are worth watching? I didn't have chance to watch tdm and ctf att all, would like to see some VODs.

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fau - Reply to #1068

tdm: md vs 102
ctf: md vs gs - map 1 spider crossings, md vs break, md vs avg
http://www.esreality.com/post/2753958/quakecon-2015-vods/

MeltdownCon

Edited by fau at 11:45 CDT, 26 July 2015

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<< Comment #1135 @ 03:45 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #1080

In addition to that:

TDM:
MD vs BREAK
MD vs avg

Meltcon, vol. 2

Edited by scowl at 03:48 CDT, 27 July 2015

<< Comment #1072 @ 11:06 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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imdaniel

i was mostly impressed by winz and zorak performances.

And also Eff0rtleSs my true hero ofcourse.

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<< Comment #1087 @ 12:00 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Shardik

Congrats Rapha.

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<< Comment #1089 @ 12:04 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Tebeg

There is only one thing that I regret really much. No Rapha - Cooller match. Kulah is maybe the only one, who could counter Rapha (maybe Cypher too, but he kinda underperformed).

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<< Comment #1146 @ 06:29 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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filo - Reply to #1089

meh, i dont think coller could be a contest to rapha, now days.

<< Comment #1147 @ 06:39 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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Tebeg - Reply to #1146

Zorak was.

<< Comment #1157 @ 11:09 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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filo - Reply to #1147

Zorak car

<< Comment #1090 @ 12:07 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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daka

pov demos!?

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<< Comment #1091 @ 12:08 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #1090

Soon, check main post or http://www.quakeconcdn.org/

Edited by Teen Queen at 12:08 CDT, 26 July 2015

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daka - Reply to #1091

thanks

=)

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<< Comment #1095 @ 12:46 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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baksteen

Great duel grand finals, beautiful quake by Rapha. Evil perhaps did not play his very best quake, but still not bad at all. Still waiting on that Cypher - Rapha quakecon finals. Someday.

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<< Comment #1127 @ 20:44 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #1095

Yupp. I think rapha makes him nervous with his reads and unpredictability.

Dreaming of the round robin idea!!!!!!

<< Comment #1128 @ 20:44 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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wem420 - Reply to #1095

Yupp. I think rapha makes him nervous with his reads and unpredictability.

Dreaming of the round robin idea!!!!!!

<< Comment #1098 @ 14:33 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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stier

Pls tell me somebody will give Evil some money for his trip, this whole thing makes me so sick!
GG rapha, doped up brainmonster?

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<< Comment #1102 @ 14:42 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Tebeg - Reply to #1098

I think Infiplay sponsored Evil (that's what I recall from the interview by Memento).

<< Comment #1101 @ 14:42 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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iavoal

Swag Evil at QCON afterparty.
http://coub.com/view/6duv5

Edited by iavoal at 14:49 CDT, 26 July 2015

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xemorx - Reply to #1101

rapha giving no respect to evil:

http://coub.com/view/435by

<< Comment #1112 @ 16:27 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (2.93.230.180)

Just rewatched the vods - GM final were soooo close... this 3-0 was so much closer than 2013's 3-1. Watch the vods with all the attention it needs - a couple of tiny flick moments of bare luck (or unluck) were making the day here. Rafa did very well (hard way? - yes, convincingly? - no), but don't count out Evil from the champ seat - the man stuffs up his confidence and will spank some major ass through the years to come. Long live QL! AuraBolt out.

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puritan ' - Reply to #1112

I thought the opposite - even tho it was close, it wasnt really close.
Sure, there were moments that couldve gone either way, but in general, Rapha shut down Evil the exactly same way he used to shut down Avek several years ago.
It was a loop of Evil getting stacked, making a move, eating Raphas rockets and then spending the next 2 minutes restacking. Also, whenever Rapha made a move for a major item, he either bullied Evil off or got himself a frag.
Seems to me that if Evil wants to convincingly beat Rapha, he needs to do what Cypher did 2 years ago (the irony): evolve his playstyle.

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<< Comment #1179 @ 10:07 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #1152

Talking of "close" after two consecutive wins of money loaden rounds, one being 3:0, can only be meant to be a joke.

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Anonymous (77.50.236.187) - Reply to #1179

have you even seen the mapscores, bro? have you considered the thin margins rafa stepped ahead to win overnervous evil? serge improves his guts with every major bout, and the next thing u'll know - he steamrolls the world-class ql like noone before. tough way to the top - yes, anything else you think of to count evil out - no

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weltschmerz - Reply to #1190

Hahaha, yeah bro. And it's kinda cute how you russian bros are never shy of excuses. So sweet lil tender evil was nervous now? Why, did he forget to bring his comfy living room along, from back home?

Anyway, the word you probably meant to use is "insecure". Weak minded. Because everybody's nervous in such games. Ask your bro cooller, he can tell you of games during which his hands were shaking. And which he won anyway.

And no, specifically the final wasn't close in any way. The little frag count was just due to rapha's, quite typical, risk-minimizing game. But each and every moment he was one step ahead. Pretty sure evil still hasn't really understood what had happened to him there. When he was taken back to school for some abc gaming lessons.

And mind you, by a guy who, we may safely assume, has considerably less regular duel practice than sweet tender evil. Who isn't even known as a particularly good aimer. And who actually *had* to spend some serious preparation time on tdm and ctf.

What an epic debacle, my dear bro. Specifically when taking into account what evil thinks what he is. Two consecutive losses of money loaden games, bossed around by the very same guy twice. It can't get any worse than this.

<< Comment #1114 @ 17:06 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Cwiru

DaHanG is a hero of duel competition. Lol for rules

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<< Comment #1115 @ 17:28 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Terifire

Was the bug where raffer got megger on elder already known, or was this the first time anyone saw it?

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<< Comment #1129 @ 21:12 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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zaggs - Reply to #1115

It was known by some before rapha used it

<< Comment #1121 @ 19:38 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen '

Anyone remember that stoned dude from 201X that randomly pressed soundboard effects and also accidentally hit the Star Wars theme during the ceremony?

Are there vods available?

<< Comment #1123 @ 19:43 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Lorfa

Configs? I'm just a lowly config whore ; - (

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<< Comment #1124 @ 20:13 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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dakinaw - Reply to #1123

you and me both

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<< Comment #1126 @ 20:44 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Teen Queen ' - Reply to #1123

Yeah well maybe you should man up and get a hobby!

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<< Comment #1163 @ 16:10 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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mattered_ - Reply to #1126

I wish u didnt do the bold part. A bit more subtle, and it would have been even funnier :3

<< Comment #1131 @ 23:14 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Anonymous (85.138.167.150)

DOOM 4 NEW!
http://www.windowscentral.com/quakecon-doom-m...mpressions

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<< Comment #1132 @ 23:14 CDT, 26 July 2015 >>

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Badb0y - Reply to #1131

they have nice pics

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nex1 ' - Reply to #1131

"I chose a default loadout that consisted of a plasma gun and a rocket launcher. Yes, everyone can spawn with a rocket launcher now. To compensate, the developers have nerfed the rocket launcher slightly. It won't kill a full health player in one or two hits, "

No comment

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Anonymous (85.138.167.150) - Reply to #1153

id software love loadouts

<< Comment #1173 @ 07:23 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #1153

so one rocket will be as powerful as one plasma shot? :D

<< Comment #1133 @ 02:50 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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syXzor

I liked the extra nerve/tension in the final. Wow how intense was that? :-)

With that said, I guess it was the only thing that didn't disappoint me about Quakecon 2015.

Like Rapha said, a round robin format where every player got to play each other, really would have been the best format. I think almost every single person who loves quake would have loved to watch, strenx, clawz, spart1e, zero4 etc play, and I know the US players would have loved to test their skills going up against the best EU players vice versa.

Another thing that bothered me was that a map like Elder really isn't fit to decide who's the best dueller - however due to the poor map pool, we often saw Elder as the tiebreaker map.

Regarding the broadcast and official coverage, it felt weird that they prioritized dubstep over trying to catch the ending of a few more duels per round. It felt weird that they cutoff the stream between the final duel grand master series, and they really pushed it too far in order for us Europeans to be able to watch it live. 1-2 hours earlier would have helped on the viewer count I think - or if they'd just left the stream up with some kind of "afk" environment cam running, so you could somehow get the feeling of being to Qcon.

Only in the finals did the casters ever sound really excited, but I don't blame them at all - not a single person besides whoever planned this - did at any time have any idea of the overall score, and who needed to beat who... so how would you be excited?

I feel sorry for all the amazing duellers who never got to play, and for all those who didn't finish in the 1st spot and never got a dime for their efforts or even travelling expenses covered.

Like someone else in this thread already wrote: "I couldn't have distributed $40K more unevenly, even if I tried".

Edited by BruceLeet at 02:54 CDT, 27 July 2015

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<< Comment #1136 @ 03:56 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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scowl - Reply to #1133

Another thing that bothered me was that a map like Elder really isn't fit to decide who's the best dueller - however due to the poor map pool, we often saw Elder as the tiebreaker map.

Is it a poor map pool? The rest of the map pool, let's say with the exception of Lost World, are maps with very conventional gameplay: Ztn, Sinister, Furious Heights.

I don't get how anyone (except rapha) could prefer Elder as a tiebreaker over maps like Ztn or Furious Heights; but apparently it happened (e.g. evil curiously enough dropping Furious Heights in his round 4 match against rapha).

Edited by scowl at 03:59 CDT, 27 July 2015

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SigningOff - Reply to #1136

Yeah, after that final I question if people ever walked on the moon.

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xemorx - Reply to #1140

no :D

<< Comment #1150 @ 07:26 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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fau - Reply to #1133

round robin? 120 duels in half a day? gl with that. Imo it was good idea, just too few rounds for this amount of first place contenders. 5-6 would hit the spot.

<< Comment #1165 @ 16:26 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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FlashSoul - Reply to #1150

It would have to take more than half a day, obviously. That would mean a pure duel tournament with no involvement from other gametypes.

<< Comment #1161 @ 13:41 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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Demiurge ' - Reply to #1133

besides the rafflefuffle, crappy maps have always been one of the banes of QuakeCon, pro-t4, pro-t2, awk

<< Comment #1188 @ 22:31 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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function9 - Reply to #1161

Yeah, didn't they use Trinity one year? lawl

<< Comment #1139 @ 04:38 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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AGRESS0R

how view dm_91 format demo ??

<< Comment #1141 @ 04:43 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #1139

http://www.esreality.com/post/2753835/qcon-de...pid2753970

in short, we can't... yet.

Edited by Skinny_Puppy at 07:05 CDT, 27 July 2015

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AGRESS0R - Reply to #1141

thx man now is all clear

<< Comment #1142 @ 05:08 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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aiken

Any summary for someone who missed whole thing?

<< Comment #1144 @ 05:22 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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xemorx - Reply to #1142

evil defeated cypher, rapha defeated evil

<< Comment #1149 @ 07:01 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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SigningOff - Reply to #1144

pretty much.

+ dahang defeated cypher & cooller.

rapha defeated dahang.

Edited by Skinny_Puppy at 07:01 CDT, 27 July 2015

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #1149

+ C O O L L E R defeated tox, sadly it wasnt streamed. A shame, cooller vs tox is the longest active top level duel rivalry in quake.

Edited by gSTRUCTOR at 09:05 CDT, 27 July 2015

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<< Comment #1155 @ 09:18 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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Cwiru - Reply to #1149

ye, this time dahang was shitting on cypher :D

<< Comment #1171 @ 04:43 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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nex1 ' - Reply to #1155

2-1 isn't shitting.

Another problem of this shitty format: scores that ended 2-1 could have been 2-3 on a bo5

<< Comment #1182 @ 11:24 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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Cwiru - Reply to #1171

2:1 it doesn't matter. Its about confidence of DaHanGs play. Poor cypher was crying, because there was nothing he can do.

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xemorx - Reply to #1182

it's great that dahang managed to overcome his old experience of constantly being helpless vs cypher's playstyle for many years, seems like cypher can't resist his opponent with shaft over 50%

Edited by xemorx at 12:52 CDT, 28 July 2015

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nex1 ' - Reply to #1182

Don't make things up. 2-1 isn't shitting, and Cypher wasn't crying. He was composed and respectful as he always is on lan.

You, on the other hand, seems to cry a lot above all that he accomplished in his short life.

<< Comment #1186 @ 17:38 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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Cwiru - Reply to #1184

Im not against you, im against jamalz or something, who says "final will be dahang cypher, and cypher will shitting on dahangs as always"

<< Comment #1175 @ 09:36 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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T1E - Reply to #1142

rapha 2:1 zorak
rapha 2:1 dahang
rapha 5:1 evil

MD (link, winz, tox, sides/zyrinx) > all

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<< Comment #1177 @ 09:43 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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sonic - Reply to #1175

T1E #1

<< Comment #1167 @ 20:46 CDT, 27 July 2015 >>

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tom

why cant i watch the stream on twitch now? trying to watch some of the games from earlier in the day. toxic cypher etc

<< Comment #1185 @ 16:37 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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JDMYO

I'm a huge Cypher fan boy - I honestly belive that he's the best Quake player alive when he's absolutely on form. But, this Quakecon - Rapha was your boy! he was spectacular! Check out that movement on elder. Rapha won the duel and he deserved to win the duel.

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<< Comment #1187 @ 21:57 CDT, 28 July 2015 >>

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daka - Reply to #1185

+ his sick prediction rockets

<< Comment #1193 @ 11:09 CDT, 29 July 2015 >>

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weltschmerz - Reply to #1185

Frankly, cypher didn't look particularly motivated to me. Presumably having one of his artistic crises again. Guess that's the price you got to pay when being a natural like him.

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mattered_ - Reply to #1193

hes by no means a natural. he took way way longer to get somewhere good after YEARS of playing

also it helped that his older brother was a good player

Edited by mattered_ at 15:47 CDT, 29 July 2015

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silversword

I just don't get where people say Cypher ALWAYS trashes evil on lan. Especially before cypher and evils match, zoot was expressing how lan evil stands no chance against lan cypher, cypher definitely has this match etc.

As far as i know before this quakecon they were 1 -1 on lan. Now it's 2 - 1 evil.

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<< Comment #1195 @ 16:45 CDT, 29 July 2015 >>

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qwih - Reply to #1189

this is not true. Cypher eliminated evil at a bunch of DHs and at adroits lan b4 shootmania.

<< Comment #1196 @ 22:54 CDT, 29 July 2015 >>

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