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<< Comment #1 @ 15:11 CST, 16 February 2011 >>

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cerb0z

Apply for job at id pls :EE

<< Comment #9 @ 05:20 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #1

You want to pay for what you can have for free? :)

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<< Comment #2 @ 15:42 CST, 16 February 2011 >>

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leopold '

- GTV-compatibility switch (sv_levelTimeReset)

Nice, the lamers at ioquake3 didn't want to do anything about it iirc.

<< Comment #3 @ 15:46 CST, 16 February 2011 >>

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Trance

oh hai Cyrax! good work as usual.

<< Comment #8 @ 05:12 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #3

Hi, nice to see you too :)

<< Comment #4 @ 15:57 CST, 16 February 2011 >>

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tbone

Couldn't you just submit this to ioquake so that they put the code in their client? Or didn't they want to?

<< Comment #7 @ 05:12 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #4

To be short: they can't do that.
As they using SDL library now, which obviously gives some benefits like improved portability/more sound backends/etc. At the same it adds keybinds regressions, also it becomes very hard to add something like raw input or advance window management because now you need to modify SDL not Q3 sources for that. I'm preferring to support less platforms but with 100% features utilization on each one

<< Comment #5 @ 16:27 CST, 16 February 2011 >>

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baron Railgun :

couldn't you made a mini-mod quakelive-like?
talking abt the damage movement etc maybe less the hitboxes

<< Comment #6 @ 05:12 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #5

There already is ;) Its have smooth netcode, unlagged hitscans, Team Elimination (-totally reworked FreezeTag engine), 400+ configurable server parameters, unique superhud, tons of small improvements and bugfixes, will be announced later

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<< Comment #14 @ 09:38 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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boenk - Reply to #6

lan servers incoming :D

<< Comment #65 @ 00:12 CDT, 20 April 2011 >>

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snob - Reply to #6

ETA on this?

<< Comment #70 @ 02:30 CDT, 20 April 2011 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #65

Planning on next week or maybe earlier

Currently updating media/documentation/huds/rulesets (incl. QL)

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<< Comment #83 @ 07:01 CDT, 21 April 2011 >>

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horf - Reply to #70

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

also how do I get this to work on linux , sorry I'm very inexperienced

<< Comment #100 @ 09:16 CDT, 26 April 2011 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #83

You will need only pak0..pak8 pk3s from your original Quake3 Arena CD/pointrelease, all other stuff will run in few simple steps

<< Comment #102 @ 12:46 CDT, 26 April 2011 >>

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horf - Reply to #100

already did that I have cnq3 1.46 running fine but I can't get q3e to work

<< Comment #92 @ 08:20 CDT, 25 April 2011 >>

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eh - Reply to #70

Release it today and I would run a server while QL is down (or longer, if people like it ;) )

<< Comment #94 @ 08:30 CDT, 25 April 2011 >>

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Izi - Reply to #70

so whats up?

<< Comment #101 @ 09:19 CDT, 26 April 2011 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #94

Just as planned, wait a bit :)

<< Comment #105 @ 22:19 CDT, 26 April 2011 >>

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RonC - Reply to #101

can't wait :)

<< Comment #67 @ 01:57 CDT, 20 April 2011 >>

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RonC - Reply to #6

ye

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wem420 - Reply to #6

Weird would love you

<< Comment #10 @ 07:09 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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skint

p0rt take note

<< Comment #16 @ 09:49 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #10

take note of what, q3 SDK works, q4 sDK does`nt, q4 renderer needs no work, server downloads etc all work, except menu list filenames, filename will only be shown if you have to download 1 pk4

Q4 engine fx system needs to be set to use gameLocal.mSec()/frametime instead of gameLocal.time, updatingeffect endorigins through runphyics wont work, if you want a active rail, and not use tracepoint endorigin

Q4 input impulse`s need to be cleared every .25ms and not done in the SDK because it doesnt work

anything q3 is a complete waste of time, its only ESR users that would actually use ti, no1 else and all the platinum sells, the graphics is wack, gameplay is wack and outdated

quake arcade on xbox will be dead in a few months when every1 goes back to COD

Q43A does it all if you want it to, gameplay inbetween you and phun, so just make yourself a custom damage set for your server to run on if you can handle clipsize etc

Edited by p0rt at 10:16 CST, 17 February 2011

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<< Comment #20 @ 16:14 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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zealot - Reply to #16

u re mom is wack

regards, esr users.

<< Comment #22 @ 16:47 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #20

cant bore me with mom shit, the sad bitch im the unwanted son of owes me �17k for the house she lives in, and i could not care if my whole family tree bursts into flames, they are worthless and peasents

most of ESR just talk shit, and never tried Q43A. i could not care for anything you all say about it

code is so clean, carmack would cream his pants if it was part of idtech 5 with all new features of Q43A already done with bug free, and all done without any engine work

Edited by p0rt at 16:51 CST, 17 February 2011

<< Comment #23 @ 17:33 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #22

you can cry like a lil sissy bitch and try and make your failed GTR mod good
http://nullnuke.netai.net/Player.cpp

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deadlift - Reply to #23

Ye srsly, what happened to GTR?

<< Comment #35 @ 12:57 CST, 19 February 2011 >>

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horf - Reply to #22

I personally would try Q43A If I had a copy of quake 4 but alas I don't and the only place I found that sells it is selling at like 2x the price it is online and I don't want to deal with shipping and customs

<< Comment #45 @ 06:44 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #35

download the iso from somewhere,

need a cdkey to play online, and its �$ http://www.cdkey-game.com/quake-4-cd-key-p-350.html

<< Comment #58 @ 22:32 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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horf - Reply to #45

I like having a CD copy , its why I don't buy games of steam
but I'll have some extra cash later so I might pick it up

Edited by Rauvz at 22:33 CST, 21 February 2011

<< Comment #24 @ 14:39 CST, 18 February 2011 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #16

q4 renderer needs no work

False. Analysed Q4 SDK headers - looks like Q4 is affected by frameloss bug too. So it is only your wish but not a reality

<< Comment #29 @ 17:58 CST, 18 February 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #24

lights are synced from the server, and nodoubt rendered on the server instead of just being a active entity with physics, and the probaly the same with skyboxes which is the real cause of MP slowdown on dedicated servers

check for those in the engine and disable them, MP on deds will probaly be fully fixed

you can set renderlight.nodynamicshadows = !gameLocal.isDedicatedServer ? spawnArgs.GetBool() : false;

and on specular etc, and clientside lights will be the same and not set from spawnArgs

you cant have high polys and bumpmap on every texture and expect it to run at 125fps on a laptop

Edited by p0rt at 18:07 CST, 18 February 2011

<< Comment #30 @ 04:01 CST, 19 February 2011 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #29

Did you understood what I am talking about? Bug is in renderer and you can't do anything with it on mod side

<< Comment #32 @ 07:04 CST, 19 February 2011 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #30

He barely understands what he is saying, let alone what others say.

A q4 dedicated server doesn't render anything, so quite why he thinks rendering skyboxes on the server are q4s biggest problem I don't know.

Out of interest, what is the "frame loss bug" you are referring to?

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<< Comment #33 @ 08:38 CST, 19 February 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #32

everything gets rendered, its just not displayed on a screen, or the game wouldnt work and every file would be impilicit and physics would not work

<< Comment #37 @ 13:28 CST, 19 February 2011 >>

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madbringer - Reply to #33

Lol.

Three words for you:

Binary space partitioning.

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<< Comment #38 @ 14:56 CST, 19 February 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #37

means fuckall to me...

game world is loaded, world brushes have default textures put on them and not full rendered materials, so the server knows what flags the materials have like noimpact etc

lights are probaly fully rendered, with idLight class in the game dll

skyboxes are probaly fully rendered instead of being replaced by a normal texture, when the only flag a dedicated server needs to know is that its a noimpact surface for physics clip

game server are lawn mower man and all them other wack scifi movies, the game is played and just not seen

<< Comment #44 @ 05:17 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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Kyto - Reply to #38

Rendering the gameworld is done purely client side. Try to make a map and launch a server with it, then edit the map on the client and connect to server. The map will be different on the client. If the map was synced from the server it would mean huge CPU usage and network traffic first to determine the shader values of every surface and then sending them to all of the clients. Entities are placed on the map by the server.

Edited by Kyto at 05:18 CST, 21 February 2011

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<< Comment #46 @ 06:46 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #44

the map is still loaded serverside, and processing of flags are still done, the lights are still active with color tints are being synced from server, so its still rendered, just not put on a screen, even if it passes all the screen renderer opengl code, the world is still kind of rendered and processed serverside

<< Comment #52 @ 10:12 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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colbey - Reply to #46

As with all multiplayer games in the history of existence, the server has nothing to do with the lighting or anything graphical you may see.

A game server is used to calculate and distribute GAME information - this means everyone's position, everyone's current health, current ammo, weapons picked up, etc.

Anything that you see graphically is purely a representation of this information that you receive from the server. The lighting, texturing, mapping, whatever... It's all client-side...

You seem to have a slight grasp for what it is, but the world is not rendered at all server side.. That makes no sense... The world is loaded, yes.. But only to place the people/objects that are needed... Lighting information is never sent from a server to a client, seeing as lighting has nothing to do with physics or positioning of anything.

If lighting information WERE passed, imagine how much harder your pc would have to work to change the way a map is lit clientside -- you would need to "reskin" everything the server sends you... Blah... food for thought

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p0rt - Reply to #52

idtech4 game have lights synced from teh server, it is what writetosnapshot is, the server uses writetosnapshot, the client uses readfromsnapshot

ambient lights are not synced, maps with fog cannot run and have a fog material on clients, because they are synced from server, you can piss around with the idlight class all you want, clients cannot have fog lights, even if you disable all the code in the idlight class, the entities are still synced through identityPtr<> when game_network.cpp writes the snapshot to send to clients

realtime lighting and bullshit is why the world sucks on carmacks cock if you into rendering, bump is not realtime and prerendered on textures, if a light cannot fade 1 from color to another in a map the engine would get laughed at and sent back to the 90s pre quake

the light code in quake 4 is crap and probaly a main reason to massive FPS drop, and the same applies to the skybox

Edited by p0rt at 13:54 CST, 21 February 2011

<< Comment #56 @ 14:06 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #52

id Tech 4 does more on the server than you would expect. Some for good reasons, some for not so good reasons. That is what p0rt is trying to say, and he is kind-of right. He is just wrong to have picked "rendering" as the thing to talk about.

For example, q4 does load, parse, and reference all .gui's, such as the scoreboard, ingame menu etc, on the server. It even manages to leak them and causes servers to run out of memory eventually (fixed in q4max). There is no good reason for this, other than no clear separation between client + server processing (game vs cgame in q3).

It also does a lot more with respect to animating models, blending the animations etc than you would expect. This is because of the per-polygon hit detection used in D3, and the design decision to try and keep everything in step between server + client. Rockets truely come from the end of the RL based upon the position of the model, including viewbob, step up animation smoothing etc.

This fugly design probably dates back to when D3 wasn't going to have a server at all and they were going to lock all clients to predicting the same thing in step with each other (see early D3 info). They didn't reverse this decision early enough to stop this getting into the code, although some of this has been unpicked.

Edited by AnthonyJ at 14:07 CST, 21 February 2011

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<< Comment #57 @ 14:24 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #56

unless you have q43a and 60%+ recode of the sdk

Q43A player code tings http://nullnuke.netai.net/Player.cpp

Edited by p0rt at 14:28 CST, 21 February 2011

<< Comment #50 @ 08:58 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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Kyto - Reply to #46

No.

<< Comment #51 @ 09:54 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #50

yup, you cant trace a vector point in binary and return a material flag for physics to work, and write to new var to snapshot and send it to clients

partial rendering still happens serverside, models are loaded serverside, skins are set serverside, lights are serverside

the renderer might not be called and openGL functions used to render the frame to screen through GFX card etc, some form of rendering still happens even if the engine has some basic functions of its own

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Drexciyian - Reply to #51

You know what a dedicated server is right?

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p0rt - Reply to #66

yup, the map is load without rendered textures, the renderer code and opengl is skipped because it is not needed, serverside you are running around the map just like on a localclient but without any detailed textures

<< Comment #55 @ 13:58 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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AnthonyJ - Reply to #33

No.

As you realised later on in the chain, the definition of something being rendered is not it loading some data or having some maths functions like the ability to trace a point, or even having the material definitions available.

It is, unsurprisingly, that it is rendered by the renderer, and Q4 doesn't use the renderer at all on a dedicated server. You can verify this by placing a breakpoint in idGameLocal::Draw - you will of course find this is never called, and this is the entrypoint into the renderer.

If you wish to go even further on proving this to yourself, you could add a call to gameRenderWorld->RenderScene() (normally called from the context of idGameLocal::Draw) and step into it when running quake4ded.exe. You will notice that this function is entirely stubbed out in the dedicated server binary.

Since you seem to mention lights a lot and think they're busy consuming server resources because they're only in game.... well the key is the renderEntity inside the entity, and this wont be used in any significant way outside of the renderer - which as just proved isn't used, so there is no significant overhead on the server from having lots of light entities.

Same goes for the skybox - which doesn't really add *that* much of an overhead on clients, but adds basically nothing to servers.

The one thing you are right about is that there is a lot of gamecode (and a lot of other things too) that is needlessly done on both the server and on the client - but rendering is not one of them.

Edited by AnthonyJ at 13:59 CST, 21 February 2011

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Cyrax - Reply to #32

Converting large integer numbers to 32bit floats causing few different integers to be converted into the same float value (because of 23bit significand) - in game it looks like when you start loosing frames in animations etc while having stable 999+ fps for example. In QL it can be observed as delayed/ugly rocket splash

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<< Comment #49 @ 08:14 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #43

or that could be the effect is broadcasted from the server with effect origin and axis

id animator always looks choppy, blendframes is rubbish, in rage preview youtube vid, the animation is choppy, its in every game, blendframes when a new state is posted, only tends too look good if frames is more then 12

can see some killed ai snap and jump into a new state http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd0RtabEah4

if your at 60fps, 34 frames to blendframes is good, most are set to 4 in q4 if they are not 0

Edited by p0rt at 08:38 CST, 21 February 2011

<< Comment #53 @ 12:17 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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skint - Reply to #49

carmack explained about the animation on the Rage video looking a little choppy on his twitter.

"looks very good, but the animation at 30 hz video is noticeably choppier than in real play"

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p0rt - Reply to #53

animator uses seconds, 34 frames to blend is 3.4seconds, it should use ms

34 blendframes in 0.340 seconds

Edited by p0rt at 01:21 CST, 22 February 2011

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<< Comment #118 @ 09:18 CDT, 13 March 2012 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #43

does your client have a fix for this bug?

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Cyrax - Reply to #118

It was first client around with this bug fixed ;-)

<< Comment #34 @ 08:39 CST, 19 February 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #30

its not the renderers fault, SP would have some serious FPS drops like you get when your on a dedicated server or clientside to a listen server

SP FPS drops are todo with system spec and bottle necking cpu/gpu

if you run http://www.moddb.com/mods/q43a/addons/q43a-q4dm8 on a server, clients will have 20-40FPS drop when looking over the map on a top platform, make the skybox a normal brush with a normal texture and the FPS drop disappears, and probaly fixed on ETQWs

Edited by p0rt at 09:02 CST, 19 February 2011

<< Comment #11 @ 07:34 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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leopold '

Goes into infinite map loading loop with:
./quake3e +connect ip:port

Linux box here, SuSE 11.3 i386, fglrx ati driver.

Edited by leopold at 07:35 CST, 17 February 2011

<< Comment #12 @ 08:51 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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ins '

doesn't load my cfg :|

<< Comment #15 @ 09:39 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #12

It doesn't change resolution/sensitivity/binds or displays some kind of error message? I need a bit more detailed info

<< Comment #19 @ 11:50 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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ins ' - Reply to #15

i just write /exec Insan3
changes my name and some binds but doesn't changes my resolution, sensitivity, colors, and anything else

might be me being just stupid lol
i've put the cfg in baseq3 folder and tried execing it!

<< Comment #27 @ 15:15 CST, 18 February 2011 >>

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vamp1re - Reply to #19

did you vid_restart?

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<< Comment #36 @ 12:59 CST, 19 February 2011 >>

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horf - Reply to #19

you might want to try putting it in the folder of the mod you want to play .

<< Comment #13 @ 09:09 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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hoechst

- ALSA support

if i'd still be using linux and play q3, i would go totally crazy for this
good job man

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<< Comment #21 @ 16:16 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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zealot - Reply to #13

yea, ALSA ftw.

<< Comment #17 @ 10:30 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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ralph

where's the source code

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<< Comment #138 @ 17:23 CDT, 21 May 2012 >>

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tourist - Reply to #17

*where code for this

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<< Comment #18 @ 11:04 CST, 17 February 2011 >>

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eh

No support for punkbuster, but for fun mods its ok I guess.

<< Comment #25 @ 15:03 CST, 18 February 2011 >>

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kalston - Reply to #18

People still use PB?

<< Comment #26 @ 15:12 CST, 18 February 2011 >>

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0x5f3759df - Reply to #25

no

<< Comment #28 @ 15:17 CST, 18 February 2011 >>

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kalston - Reply to #26

that's more like it

<< Comment #31 @ 05:13 CST, 19 February 2011 >>

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eh - Reply to #25

People still play Q3?

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0x5f3759df - Reply to #31

yes

<< Comment #40 @ 15:29 CST, 19 February 2011 >>

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eh - Reply to #39

#5 + opensource client + wannabes = everyone is pro and hits 45% lg

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0x5f3759df - Reply to #40

Popularity: Wannabe

u just a wannabe

<< Comment #42 @ 15:50 CST, 19 February 2011 >>

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eh - Reply to #41

couldn't care less for my esr reputation...

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kalston - Reply to #42

that's what the wannabes say

<< Comment #48 @ 07:38 CST, 21 February 2011 >>

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eh - Reply to #47

boring

<< Comment #60 @ 21:15 CST, 22 February 2011 >>

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RonC

so, is this better than cnq3?

<< Comment #61 @ 13:10 CST, 23 February 2011 >>

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Cyrax

Fixed bugs reported by Leopold
Added \r_mode -2 (sets current desktop resolution)
Link is the same, source named quake3-1.32e-src.7z

Edited by Cyrax at 13:13 CST, 23 February 2011

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<< Comment #62 @ 15:36 CDT, 14 April 2011 >>

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Cyrax

Another update:
* fixed some rare client connection issue (unexpected/silent disconnect after map load)
* added K_AUX1..K_AUX8 keys support for linux
* removed com_blindlyLoadDLLs stuff - no more nasty popups(win32)
* fixed gamma in windowed mode (win32 )
* ipv6 support (backported from ioq3)
* r_greyscale (backported from ioq3)
+ other small fixes and improvements

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<< Comment #77 @ 10:45 CDT, 20 April 2011 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #62

* ipv6 support (backported from ioq3)

Well that's a waste of time (Will be many years before ipv6 touches end users)

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kalston - Reply to #77

Waste of time? I don't think so seeing we've already ran out of ipv4.

Sure it might take some time but at least he's optimistic about Q3 keeping a playerbase :D

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<< Comment #79 @ 11:39 CDT, 20 April 2011 >>

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oneroomdisco - Reply to #78

ipv6 will only be implemented in the backend of isp's for many years. It will be a LONG time before you EVER have to type in /connect ipv6address

<< Comment #63 @ 15:43 CDT, 14 April 2011 >>

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ShadyVoltaire

:o hi Cyrax!

Nice to see u made something good :) happy for you

<< Comment #64 @ 16:24 CDT, 14 April 2011 >>

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epsilon

Nice job Cyrax! :)

i'm gonna get my hands in the source code ^_^

<< Comment #68 @ 02:19 CDT, 20 April 2011 >>

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leopold '

awesome, will try asap

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leopold ' - Reply to #68

works well here, great. Keep'em coming!

<< Comment #69 @ 02:30 CDT, 20 April 2011 >>

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Raist

Nice work, although I do enjoy more how the thread got hijacked by p0rt and other coders try to reason with his insane ramblings :)

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tourist - Reply to #69

hah thanks for notifying, I wondered why I didn't see that.

<< Comment #71 @ 02:45 CDT, 20 April 2011 >>

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no_il

Anybody else want to make a cpma quake3 revival? I'm feed up with ID and quakelive. I live in Israel and it's becoming more and more obvious that local servers aren't going to be ever made and with QL's shitty netcode, playing with over 70 ping just isn't fun. If anyone is interested, Imsg me.

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<< Comment #80 @ 15:07 CDT, 20 April 2011 >>

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leopold ' - Reply to #71

Yepp.

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study - Reply to #71

Where do you download cpma? I recall there being a download link when Anima was having their quake 3 cup, but all the links are broken :/

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duumed - Reply to #97

http://promode.ru/?q=node/386

<< Comment #73 @ 06:57 CDT, 20 April 2011 >>

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Vium

btw p0rt. is Q43A clientside only, and does it support the fully rendered lights?

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Anonymous (90.35.97.253) - Reply to #73

>:D

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p0rt - Reply to #73

its both, you download the mod from http://www.moddb.com/mods/q43a/downloads where the latest version and patches always will be

if you want to run a server on windows or linux, just run the quake4ded. like normal with q43a set as the fs_game

to run Q43A as a client load up quake 4 like normal, in hte bottom of the main menu there is a mods button link, click on it to list available mods, select q43a and click load, or you can make a shortcut to quake4. and set the fs_game to q43a

if you run a dedicated server using Q43A, any client using windows or linux will download the mod when they connect, and beable todo the same

and when you bord, if you have Q43A loaded, you can play the whole revamp and relistic damage SP game, which is like a whole new game, ai has hearing, ai fov works, few worthless and good tweaks to the ai, and all new ai settings, but just like MP, the maps are all shit

Edited by p0rt at 10:33 CDT, 20 April 2011

<< Comment #81 @ 19:06 CDT, 20 April 2011 >>

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Vium - Reply to #76

thx for clarifying.

<< Comment #82 @ 05:59 CDT, 21 April 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #81

to put it simple, Q43A and all the recoding, works exactly the same as Q3 but with new cvars and a new renderer.

and it works exactly the same as Q4 v1.0 out the box retail

so now you all can try it, all you have todo is load the mod, and Q43A becomes like an unofficial patch yo, with aload of new features for SP and MP

Edited by p0rt at 06:07 CDT, 21 April 2011

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kalston - Reply to #73

"cant bore me with mom shit, the sad bitch im the unwanted son of owes me �17k for the house she lives in, and i could not care if my whole family tree bursts into flames, they are worthless and peasents"

p0rt �

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<< Comment #85 @ 08:48 CDT, 21 April 2011 >>

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ger1e - Reply to #84

I burst into tears when I read that :D

<< Comment #86 @ 09:26 CDT, 21 April 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #84

damn right, you get it off drum n bass arena, ush, or you bullshit chatrooms full of middleclass wankers doing the middleclass gayboy thing

your all middleclass wankers who cant live without your family, i could not give a flying fuck about mine, im the god, they are all worthless, they all owe me �17k, they all do nothing for me, i do not need them, bitch never brought me a car and all that middleclass shit, i had to buy her the fucking house i grew up in, she unemployed ran out of money with a mortage to pay with a freeloading husband who thought he was a man, slap him and hes knocked out and stays in bed for a week to recover

Edited by p0rt at 09:27 CDT, 21 April 2011

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<< Comment #89 @ 12:03 CDT, 23 April 2011 >>

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pks - Reply to #86

lmao

<< Comment #90 @ 13:54 CDT, 23 April 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #89

10 years of freedom, they move nearby and hit me with their made up world, it didnt happen, now the whole family trees owes me my money, they can club together and still cant pay back

assholes forgot about the small thing called reality, music, council blocks, dj`s, cars, life

Edited by p0rt at 13:57 CDT, 23 April 2011

<< Comment #91 @ 14:45 CDT, 23 April 2011 >>

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�bst - Reply to #86

fucking lol

<< Comment #95 @ 20:47 CDT, 25 April 2011 >>

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Funeral - Reply to #86

cool story bro...

<< Comment #104 @ 14:15 CDT, 26 April 2011 >>

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led - Reply to #95

Actually, it was.

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<< Comment #96 @ 02:49 CDT, 26 April 2011 >>

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kalston - Reply to #86

You have already judged this post.

<< Comment #103 @ 12:53 CDT, 26 April 2011 >>

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cityy - Reply to #86

explains.

<< Comment #108 @ 05:46 CDT, 27 April 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #103

that im more gangsta then the krays

<< Comment #113 @ 16:51 CDT, 2 May 2011 >>

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Ryan2015 - Reply to #108

Violent mainics = dead game mod

Sorry i fail to see the comparison

<< Comment #88 @ 06:46 CDT, 23 April 2011 >>

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limity

lets do this

<< Comment #93 @ 08:25 CDT, 25 April 2011 >>

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tourist

does it support custom hand models?

<< Comment #99 @ 06:52 CDT, 26 April 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #93

you be slimey transfer model, other players will see, but on your screen you will have the default marine arms and skin holding each of your weapons

unless you get Q43A and make custom arm models and skin for each weapon and player model

Q3 already has 100% custom player models, its part of the Q3 world and what made the game

Edited by p0rt at 06:57 CDT, 26 April 2011

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<< Comment #109 @ 05:47 CDT, 27 April 2011 >>

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p0rt - Reply to #99

here how you make them for Q4

http://nullnuke.netai.net/wiki.php?op=entry&eid=4

<< Comment #106 @ 02:24 CDT, 27 April 2011 >>

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Lejionator

Is possible to view the cinematic files (entries in q3 singleplayer) perfectly with this new client?

<< Comment #110 @ 14:26 CDT, 27 April 2011 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #106

Yes, also upcoming mod release will have some singleplayer fixes

<< Comment #107 @ 02:28 CDT, 27 April 2011 >>

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ger1e

How do I make this work??? I'm a tard

<< Comment #111 @ 13:59 CDT, 2 May 2011 >>

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KittenIgnition

ability to press all keys [excl.Esc] during demo playback

its funny, cuz com_cameramode 1 does the same thing.

<< Comment #112 @ 16:13 CDT, 2 May 2011 >>

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no_il

Nice! Really hope this mod caches on, have a feeling it will really bost when QL's pro/prem subscriptions run out.

Regarding the netcodeing, are commands such timenudge and smoothclients recommended for high ping players or will just disturb the netcodeing like in cpma?

Also, could people post configs please? My osp one is a mess and I dont want to use cpma one. Can't fix stuff like rocket smoke or thinshaft, etc. post configs!

Edited by no_il at 16:17 CDT, 2 May 2011

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Cyrax - Reply to #112

>are commands such timenudge and smoothclients recommended for high ping players

Can't say anything about that, related code is the same as for vq3/1.32b

<< Comment #114 @ 04:52 CDT, 12 May 2011 >>

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Cyrax

Another update:
* max.config size increased to 64k
* security and performance improvements in QVM bytecode compiler
* fixed few potential crash cases

<< Comment #116 @ 08:06 CDT, 30 May 2011 >>

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Cyrax

Another update:
* removed buggy \r_smp
* improved qvm performance - now up to 30% faster comparing to original 1.32b/c

Also one interesting thing for ATI owners: you may notice that your FPS can be less than with original 1.32b/c so
Q: how can it be if you are declaring performance improvements in your client?
A: try to rename quake3e.exe to quake3.exe and you will get real FPS boost - means that Catalyst driver is simply cheating i.e. it is applying some specific optimizations according to application name :) And looks like it is an old story http://techreport.com/articles.x/3089/1

<< Comment #117 @ 12:26 CDT, 12 March 2012 >>

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Plaisi

Bump.
Best client ever.

<< Comment #120 @ 05:10 CDT, 20 May 2012 >>

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Cyrax

Whatsnew since last update:
* new win32 dedicated console and win32 dedicated server binary
* improved QVM JIT-compiler - now much more faster and secure
* win32 multimonitor fixes: now game changes resolution (and runs fullscreen) on current game monitor, not primary

Edited by Cyrax at 07:59 CDT, 20 May 2012

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<< Comment #124 @ 09:17 CDT, 20 May 2012 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #120

* new win32 dedicated console and win32 dedicated server binary
* improved QVM JIT-compiler - now much more faster and secure

so what does this mean? : )

<< Comment #125 @ 09:28 CDT, 20 May 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #124

1) compare consoles on attached screenshot
2) you will get higher fps on client-side and less lags from server-side

Edited by Cyrax at 10:29 CDT, 20 May 2012

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xanhast - Reply to #125

Thank you for command history

<< Comment #121 @ 07:11 CDT, 20 May 2012 >>

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Anonymous (194.206.50.158)

w00t

<< Comment #122 @ 07:24 CDT, 20 May 2012 >>

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r1ddler

STILL NO ANTI-CHEAT???

j/k, awesome job putting ID too shame :)

<< Comment #123 @ 08:20 CDT, 20 May 2012 >>

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ger1e

bump

<< Comment #126 @ 11:08 CDT, 20 May 2012 >>

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acidreign

You sir, are a gentleman and scholar.

<< Comment #127 @ 16:00 CDT, 20 May 2012 >>

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esdf '

you do realise you just wasted enormous amount of your time on something almost no one will play as long as there's quakelive? XD

kudos for motivation tho.

<< Comment #129 @ 06:48 CDT, 21 May 2012 >>

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palatka - Reply to #127

you fool. ql will be shut down in a week

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annihiluzz - Reply to #127

at least he does something in his life beyond playing video games :D

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BalkanFM - Reply to #127

people that played vq3 in quake 3 were just a part of the whole quake 3 universe. vq3`ers mostly moved to quakelive but the majority of people playing quake3 werent vq3ers and are still playing their mods in quake3.

its definitely not a waste of time, as many people still in the game are switching to these kind of engines like ioq3, dfengine...

so pleaseeee, be gone with your quake 3 ignorance, you are new to this story and there are numerous vistas waiting to open for you to explore

Edited by BalkanFM at 11:07 CDT, 21 May 2012

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<< Comment #133 @ 11:16 CDT, 21 May 2012 >>

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esdf ' - Reply to #132

almost no one will play

i've included your "many people still in the game are switching to these kind of engines like ioq3" with that quote.

you're the one that's ignorant, q3 and it's mods is as marginal compared to ql as ql is to some other bigger game. it's nowhere. please realise that and move on with your life.

<< Comment #135 @ 11:57 CDT, 21 May 2012 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #133

i havent realized the relativistic comparison numbers were keeping me stuck

<< Comment #143 @ 13:17 CDT, 27 May 2012 >>

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me - Reply to #132

the majority of people playing quake3 werent vq3ers

o_O

A very huge majority of them were.

<< Comment #128 @ 04:57 CDT, 21 May 2012 >>

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PlayLessQuakeChampions

VM_CompileX86 error: jump target set on instruction 12140 with bad opStack 4
----- Client Shutdown (Server fatal crashed: VM_Create on UI failed) -----
any ideas ??

<< Comment #131 @ 07:47 CDT, 21 May 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #128

New engine performs much more security/consistency checks for running mods so its even detected bug in edawn-1.2.0 :) Make sure you have latest mod version (1.2.1) or re-download q3asm-v8 (if you using it) and recompile qvms

Edited by Cyrax at 07:50 CDT, 21 May 2012

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PlayLessQuakeChampions - Reply to #131

nvm , reintalled game , cpma , works greate have much more fps now , atleast now can play 5v5 CA with no fps-drops :) and smoothnes loks nice too , greate work ,thx

<< Comment #134 @ 11:55 CDT, 21 May 2012 >>

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Padawan

I tried the normal q3 (1.32c), dfengine, cnq3, ioq3 and q3e and i can happily say i feel the most comfortable with quake3e, i particularly like the bloom and greyscale adjustments that the other executables don't have (yet).

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<< Comment #136 @ 12:42 CDT, 21 May 2012 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #134

oh, i didnt even know this exists, i used quake3e lately for completly different reasons.. guess il be going over all the cvars and do some experimenting...

<< Comment #139 @ 17:29 CDT, 21 May 2012 >>

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tourist

gj. while you're at it, can you take a wild guess as to what's causing ql sensitivity fluctuation?

<< Comment #141 @ 11:27 CDT, 23 May 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #139

Some memory corruption or renderer-related lag

<< Comment #140 @ 09:44 CDT, 22 May 2012 >>

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Padawan

The bloom is a useful feature to enhance visibility of enemy model:

Edited by Padawan at 09:45 CDT, 22 May 2012

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<< Comment #144 @ 14:09 CDT, 27 May 2012 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #140

whats the exact command for the bloom and grayscale, cant find the info....

<< Comment #145 @ 00:29 CDT, 28 May 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #144

\r_greyscale 0/1 or value in range 0.0..1.0
\r_bloom 0/1
\r_bloom_ + TAB key - other bloom tuning parameters

<< Comment #142 @ 23:03 CDT, 26 May 2012 >>

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walongTatlo

disregard my prob whomever read it earlier

really hoping for a UI = )

Edited by walongTatlo at 02:41 CDT, 27 May 2012

<< Comment #146 @ 12:58 CDT, 16 July 2012 >>

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SIHdW3W

fs_game write protected ?

Edited by SIHdW3W at 13:44 CDT, 16 July 2012

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Cyrax - Reply to #146

Can be changed:
- via mod selection menu
- on startup by adding +set fs_game <modname> to executable command line
- in game by typing \game_restart <modname> in console

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<< Comment #148 @ 22:45 CDT, 20 September 2012 >>

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serh

This is an excellent client, thank you. One issue I am experiencing, and several other ppl reported the same to me, is hiss/crackle/distortion to the sound. I am running this on windows, cpma mod. Please let me know if there is something I can change via cvars/etc. or if u are aware of any potential fixes. Happy to provide any other info that may help.

<< Comment #149 @ 02:03 CDT, 21 September 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #148

* First of all, make sure that you have recent version as there was few bugs in sound mixing code prior to 02-Jul-2011
* Turn off s_doppler
* Try to reproduce bug in another mod
* Try to record corrupted sound and post it somewhere

Edited by Cyrax at 02:08 CDT, 21 September 2012

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serh - Reply to #149

-I have been using quake3-1.32e-20120724.
-I have been able to reproduce this in cpma 1.48 and defrag 1.91.20
-I was not able to reproduce it in baseq3
-the cvars that seemed to have the most effect on the distorted sound are s_khz 44 --> 22, com_soundmegs 16 -> 8, and some others I am unable to pinpoint, although s_doppler seems to have no effect,
-I was able to get undistorted sound, but only by resorting to a completely fresh config in each of those mods - since my baseq3 didnt have a config whatever conflict was there with the other mods was not present. I have used a number of clients so there were probably a number of out of place vars in my configs.
-I have tried to record ingame sound with xsplit, the sound encoding wasnt particularly good though. I will try fraps, or loopback into my soundcards input later when I have some more time.

cheers

<< Comment #151 @ 12:56 CDT, 22 September 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #150

Most of the in-game sounds is 22KHz so 22->44KHz-interpolation adds some distortion by design, try to use 22KHz
Also check these cvars:
\s_mixPrestep - default is 0.05
\s_mixAhead - default is 0.2, I'm using 0.5 (reduces sound lags in case of FPS lags but uses more CPU)
Also here is test binary with some additional cvars:
\s_maxDuplicated - max. allowed duplicated sounds to play at the time, try 6-8, 1.32e default is 8, 1.32b - 4
\s_duplicateThreshold - duplicate detection threshold, in ms, try 40-20, 1.32e default is 20, 1.32b - 50

<< Comment #187 @ 04:28 CST, 30 January 2013 >>

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serh - Reply to #151

I have been enjoying the latest release, and having the most luck with the x64 client, but still I am bothered by some sound issues. I find that the sound seems to be lower in quality compared to dfengine 1.08 and CNQ3 1.46. Specifically distortion, inability to use s_khz 44, and for lack of better understanding, shall I say a 'reduced number of voices'. I find using the quake3e client, in situations where there are many players in an area, often sounds seem to be omitted compared to dfengine and CNQ3.

The 64bit client seems to have better sound, imho, than the x86, but other clients seem to benefit from s_khz 44, where quake3e only becomes distorted. I was able to record a few short clips with quake3e 30-Nov-2012 version, x86 and x64, dfengine 1.08f, and CNQ3 1.46 using Open Broadcasting Software 0.466a (64bit for q3e x64, 32bit else). Using AAC 128 kbs sound setting the distortion is clearly discernible in q3e only.

I will see if I can find a demo that I can record using various clients to illustrate the voices effect if that would be useful, also I will check out the newer quake3e client.

The quake3e client is extremely good imho, if sound could be brought up to par with CNQ3, it would be stellar 10/10. Thanks for your excellent work.

Links to clips, let me know if another format is preferable.

<< Comment #189 @ 13:52 CST, 30 January 2013 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #187

About s_khz (if you using windows client): can't say anything about dfe-1.08 but cnq3-1.46 completely ignores this setting. Most of the game sounds are 22khz, hitsounds are 8khz, so IMO distortion is a result of rate conversion. Also, versions older than 14-Nov-2012 has SIMD-assembly errors :P

About reduced number of voices: there is 'max. duplicated sounds during some time' limit in vanilla/1.32e and no such limit in cnq3-1.46. I will look deeper in cnq3 sources anyway.

Thank you :)

<< Comment #153 @ 04:53 CST, 30 November 2012 >>

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Cyrax

Update from 2012-Nov-30:
* Native 64-bit support for x86 (windows/linux)
* Another round of QVM performance/security improvements
* Link statically with OpenGL32.dll|so
* Remove 3DFX-gamma-related stuff
* Remove \r_clampToEdge

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<< Comment #156 @ 07:44 CST, 30 November 2012 >>

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0x5f3759df - Reply to #153

\o/

<< Comment #157 @ 15:45 CST, 6 December 2012 >>

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Xsi - Reply to #153

I've got some problem with running both x86 and x64

Here is the screenshot (as soon as someone accept it):

Edited by Xsi at 16:32 CST, 6 December 2012

<< Comment #158 @ 01:14 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #157

Known sutiation :) Make sure you have latest mod version installed (1.3), delete all other pk3 files from edawn directory except z-edawn-1_3.pk3

<< Comment #159 @ 04:23 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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Xsi - Reply to #158

Ah ok, I had some old version of your exec and I forgot that it is related to edawn mod. Then i just simply replaced binaries without updating mod. Thanks.

Edited by Xsi at 04:23 CST, 7 December 2012

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anvi - Reply to #153

Static linking is BAD:

* Cannot upgrade the library if a security vulnerability/problem is found
* Cannot use my local/own/whatever version if I want

<< Comment #180 @ 15:53 CST, 18 December 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #177

Cannot upgrade the library if a security vulnerability/problem is found

Relative to dll/so its not about linking code - its about placing symbols in executable' import section instead of dynamic resolving (via dlsym/GetProcAddress) and redundant funcion pointer dereferencing at each call

Cannot use my local/own/whatever version if I want

Relative to opengl32.dll - you shouldn't, to avoid cheat suspecting :)

Edited by Cyrax at 15:56 CST, 18 December 2012

<< Comment #154 @ 06:00 CST, 30 November 2012 >>

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extone

Hi, you may be interested in it =)

http://www.warsow.net/forum/thread/15428

<< Comment #160 @ 04:29 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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fau

native 64-bit support (x86 windows/linux)

Isn't it already there?

/usr/games/bin/ioquake3: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.16, stripped

<< Comment #162 @ 05:41 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #160

Different (better) QVM (Quake Virtual Machine) implementation

<< Comment #163 @ 06:01 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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fau - Reply to #162

What does it have to do with "native 64-bit support (x86 windows/linux)"?

<< Comment #164 @ 06:28 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #163

Major porting work was around QVM bytecode compiler, which is pretty complex and differs a lot from ioq3' one

<< Comment #165 @ 06:33 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #163

Its easy to add support for dll-based mods because you just compile 64-bit engine + 64 bit mod as native binaries (if you have mod sources) and it will run. But most of the mods are qvm-based (without source code) which means that they distributed in some platform-independent pseudo-code which later compiled by engine into native platform code - i.e. you don't need to have sources or make dlls for every possible platform but just once implement pseudo-code compiler for that platform and play any mod with it

<< Comment #167 @ 07:01 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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fau - Reply to #165

I know about qvm but I still don't understand where does "native 64 bit support" come from. ioquake's qvm compiler can compile qvm pseudo code to 64 bit machine code.

<< Comment #169 @ 07:16 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #167

1.32e based on r1160 where 64-bit support was buggy/incomplete

<< Comment #172 @ 07:30 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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fau - Reply to #169

r1160 is 5 years old. Did you merge later enchantments/fixes?

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<< Comment #173 @ 08:02 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #172

Yes but selective

<< Comment #161 @ 05:22 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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ZeriouS

Is this the quake3 version we should be using from now on :|?

<< Comment #168 @ 07:08 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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Xsi - Reply to #161

No, it's the version that we might be using from now.

<< Comment #166 @ 06:36 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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Plaisi

Would a \download feature like in dfengine be possible ?
Maybe using http://q3a.ath.cx/download.php/ as default repository

Some servers do not have sv_dlURL set and it's quite annoying to get maps manually :D

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<< Comment #170 @ 07:17 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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ger1e - Reply to #166

gooby pls

<< Comment #171 @ 07:27 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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SIHdW3W - Reply to #166

this

<< Comment #174 @ 08:03 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #166

Ok, will try

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<< Comment #175 @ 16:54 CST, 7 December 2012 >>

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santile - Reply to #174

awesome

<< Comment #182 @ 12:46 CST, 28 December 2012 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #166

Almost finished but http://q3a.ath.cx looks like down

<< Comment #183 @ 09:48 CST, 31 December 2012 >>

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Plaisi - Reply to #182

DNS changed : http://ws.q3df.org/

<< Comment #176 @ 04:41 CST, 8 December 2012 >>

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Tr1pwire

The nr1 client

<< Comment #178 @ 06:17 CST, 18 December 2012 >>

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KittenIgnition

dis mod sux

<< Comment #179 @ 06:51 CST, 18 December 2012 >>

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Kyto - Reply to #178

nigga u gay

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<< Comment #181 @ 21:46 CST, 19 December 2012 >>

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KittenIgnition - Reply to #179

ye i get dat alot

<< Comment #184 @ 09:11 CST, 10 January 2013 >>

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Cyrax

* Implemented \dlmap and \download commands: first command will check map existence & download, second one will unconditionally download any pk3 you need, everything is non-blocking and works in background (i.e. during disconnects etc.), read documentation for more details

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<< Comment #191 @ 14:43 CST, 30 January 2013 >>

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SIHdW3W - Reply to #184

holy fuck this is great !

edit: the bad thing is that if the file isn't pk3, it doesn't allow you download it, i guess you can't have it all : D

Edited by SIHdW3W at 14:47 CST, 30 January 2013

<< Comment #185 @ 15:46 CST, 14 January 2013 >>

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R41n

Where is the download link for the latest update?

<< Comment #186 @ 16:13 CST, 14 January 2013 >>

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Kyto - Reply to #185

http://edawn-mod.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7&p=10#p10

<< Comment #188 @ 04:43 CST, 30 January 2013 >>

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serh

I am curious how the x64 client interacts with my mouse drivers, win7 x64. I have a 'driverless' mouse, and since I dont understand the standard windows 64bit driver system well, I wonder what the performance of standard 64bit driver is. Is it interpreted from the 32bit mouse driver? or is there some driver I dont see that is on par with the 32bit driver, or some other scheme. my impression is it feels quite good, but what can I detect anyways... lol.

Besides the request I made above for some sound issues, I have a couple smaller, somewhat frivolous requests of the client.
- a transparent or configurable console background
- perhaps something like ctrl+pageup or pagedown to scroll whole pages in console (perhaps end to go to bottom as well)
- any possibility of client-initiated autodownloads? :>

Thanks for your excellent work

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<< Comment #190 @ 14:10 CST, 30 January 2013 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #188

x64 client uses system raw input same as 32 bit client (if available), win64 can't natively handle 32 bit device drivers, i.e. everything is 64 bit in your case.

a transparent or configurable console background

its controlled via 'console' shader, i.e. mod-side, but optional engine-side control is a good idea too, will be implemented

perhaps something like ctrl+pageup or pagedown to scroll whole pages in console (perhaps end to go to bottom as well)

ctrl+page[up|down] already scrolls one page up or down, but in dedicated console =) good idea, will be implemented

any possibility of client-initiated autodownloads

this looks line not so secure, as for me

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<< Comment #194 @ 17:10 CST, 30 January 2013 >>

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serh - Reply to #190

Interesting. I suppose there could be an improvement in performance between say a 32bit game coupled to 64bit drivers and a purely 64bit chain.

Thanks for considering those console features. One other question regarding the console - is there a way to configure how much information the console keeps in memory, and does or can it produce a complete log u can view? You can only scroll up so far when either maps are changed, or a game ends and stats appear in console.

Too bad about the autodownloads, but security is definitely desirable.

Thanks

<< Comment #198 @ 13:24 CST, 31 January 2013 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #194

is there a way to configure how much information the console keeps in memory

Compile-time only, 1.32e limit is 64k chars for in-game and dedicated console

and does or can it produce a complete log u can view

You can dump (via \condump <filename> command) only its current content, there is no way to save all printed text at the moment

Edited by Cyrax at 13:27 CST, 31 January 2013

<< Comment #192 @ 15:48 CST, 30 January 2013 >>

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SIHdW3W

I can't connect to pure servers with lastest version, seems like q3e thinks there's a corrupted pk3 in my baseq3 or similar

<< Comment #193 @ 16:59 CST, 30 January 2013 >>

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serh - Reply to #192

Yes, I am also having this problem. I have found I can connect to servers if I remove a number of .pk3's from baseq3 - but all appear to have valid checksums, q3wpak1.pk3 for example. I could give a list of about 30 pk3's but I have a feeling they aren't the problem.

Here is a snipit of a condump taken after failing to load a map (same error when trying to connect):

Com_sprintf: overflow of 2240 in 1024
BIG Info string length exceeded
UnnamedPlayer Unpure client detected. Invalid .PK3 files referenced!
----- Server Shutdown (Server disconnected) -----
==== ShutdownGame ====
AAS shutdown.
---------------------------
forcefully unloading cgame vm
RE_Shutdown( 0 )
Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
----- R_Init -----

Here is the full condump if that helps.

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<< Comment #195 @ 18:14 CST, 30 January 2013 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #192

Found bug =)

- for ( i = 0; e++, i < extCount; i++ )
+ for ( i = 0, e++; i < extCount; i++ )

Will upload new version soon

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<< Comment #196 @ 19:28 CST, 30 January 2013 >>

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serh - Reply to #192

I also tried the latest quake3e.ded. Regardless of the client used to connect to this server, they get bumped.
broadcast: print "rave ^7Unpure client detected. Invalid .PK3 files referenced!\n"
Maybe the same problem as the client which u seem to have found? Here is some information I was able to pull from the server.

Edited by serh at 19:36 CST, 30 January 2013

<< Comment #197 @ 13:08 CST, 31 January 2013 >>

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Cyrax

Update from 31-Jan-2013:
* Fix bug with reporting too many referenced paks to pure server
* QVM improvements

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<< Comment #199 @ 01:47 CST, 1 February 2013 >>

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ZeriouS

Thanks to 64-bit support, my office pc is now a quake 3 machine \o/ ... D:

<< Comment #200 @ 07:51 CST, 3 February 2013 >>

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Roktansky

when i use console always get couldnt write bla bla (q3config,cdkey,q3history)
console commands works fine but its so annoy

<< Comment #201 @ 06:06 CST, 4 February 2013 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #200

Check file permissions to the printed paths

<< Comment #202 @ 07:42 CDT, 12 March 2013 >>

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Anonymous (62.72.116.7)

id like to launch edawn with openarena (only free material) but cant without original (non-free) pak0.pk3. Any way to fix this ?

i tried renaming baseoa by baseq3 but :
ERROR: pak0.pk3 is present but its checksum (3235491247)
is not correct. Please re-copy pak0.pk3 from your
legitimate Q3 CDROM.

<< Comment #203 @ 09:43 CDT, 12 March 2013 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #202

I will try to solve this in short time

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<< Comment #204 @ 07:09 CDT, 13 March 2013 >>

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Anonymous (62.72.116.7) - Reply to #203

Thanks =)

<< Comment #205 @ 13:23 CDT, 14 March 2013 >>

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Cyrax

Updated, noticeable changes:
* Removed hardcoded "baseq3" folder loading
* 1.32e-written configs now uses platform-dependent newlines, i.e. any new win32-generated config now can be simply edited with notepad without unix-like newline screwup

To play edawn with openarena (or any other) media base you should specify its folder in command line via setting fs_basegame cvar, for example:
quake3e.exe +set fs_basegame baseoa
or if you want to play cpma:
quake3e.exe +set fs_basegame baseoa +set fs_game cpma

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<< Comment #206 @ 17:11 CDT, 15 March 2013 >>

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serh - Reply to #205

One feature which would be nice, but not entirely necessary, would be a variable to allow game sound when the client is not in focus. Would be handy when streaming. s_onlywhenfocus 0/1 or some such variable.

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<< Comment #207 @ 02:48 CDT, 16 March 2013 >>

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anvi - Reply to #206

In ioquake3 there are

s_muteWhenUnfocused
s_muteWhenMinimized

<< Comment #208 @ 14:12 CDT, 2 April 2013 >>

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Roktansky

cant open server list (play online menu)
any idea op ?

<< Comment #209 @ 14:41 CDT, 2 April 2013 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #208

Some Q3A master server problems, works fine for me at the moment

<< Comment #210 @ 03:11 CDT, 7 April 2013 >>

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Cyrax

Updated:
* Console fixes/improvements:
Get rid of empty lines scrolling
Ctrl+HOME now works correctly in all cases
Pageup/down and mwheelup/down now scrolls by 1 line, not 2, hold +ctrl to accelerate
* Add \cl_conColor [RRR GGG BBB AAA] - controls console background color, default is empty (use current mod shader)
* Mute sounds only in minimized client window state
* More correct linux client shutdown

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<< Comment #211 @ 04:08 CDT, 7 April 2013 >>

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pierow

Is there a client that lets you bind jump to scroll? this one is nice but I have had no success with that. I tried making a rudimentary script to vstr it with no luck, but maybe there's a trick I don't know.

Edited by pierow at 04:09 CDT, 7 April 2013

<< Comment #212 @ 04:25 CDT, 7 April 2013 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #211

Type \bind scrollock +moveup

<< Comment #213 @ 07:43 CDT, 7 April 2013 >>

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pierow - Reply to #212

Not scrollock, but mwheelup and mwheeldown don't work if I bind +moveup to them.

<< Comment #214 @ 07:59 CDT, 7 April 2013 >>

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Plaisi - Reply to #213

\bind wheeldown "+moveup; wait 16" seems to work

but it kinda suck for trickjumps, you should just jump with mouse2 already

Edited by Plaisi at 08:08 CDT, 7 April 2013

<< Comment #215 @ 07:08 CDT, 8 April 2013 >>

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zealot - Reply to #213

not a good idea in quake, don't do it :)

<< Comment #216 @ 07:23 CDT, 9 April 2013 >>

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pierow - Reply to #215

It works fine for me in QL. I'm having a bit of trouble consistently getting cpm trickjumps that make me jump twice fast and if i could use scroll it would be no problem.

<< Comment #217 @ 08:30 CDT, 9 April 2013 >>

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zealot - Reply to #216

trust me, many have tried this coming from games where using the wheel to jump is the norm... it doesn't work out well in quake.

<< Comment #218 @ 23:05 CDT, 16 April 2013 >>

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sinistral

I can't join or create a CPMA hoonymode match without crashing.

<< Comment #219 @ 03:33 CDT, 17 April 2013 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #218

Any error message?
---
Lol cpma can't start without full cpm-mappack installed?!

<< Comment #220 @ 14:28 CDT, 17 April 2013 >>

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sinistral

This doesn't happen with the default CPMA client. I don't get any error message in the console as it crashes instantly. If I join an empty internet game and callvote mode hm, my client crashes and I have to rejoin the server on the default client to vote back to a different mode.

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: quake3e.x64.exe
Application Version: 0.0.0.0
Application Timestamp: 516116de
Fault Module Name: StackHash_3124
Fault Module Version: 0.0.0.0
Fault Module Timestamp: 00000000
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 0000000002d4d83a
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.768.3
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Information 1: 3124
Additional Information 2: 312427607bbd2a7ff9bb53cf8ebf0904
Additional Information 3: e330
Additional Information 4: e330a44089fe6968f274f06a2a44f292

Edited by Sed at 17:08 CDT, 17 April 2013

<< Comment #221 @ 03:32 CDT, 18 April 2013 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #220

Thank you for report, will release update soon

<< Comment #222 @ 12:22 CDT, 18 April 2013 >>

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Cyrax

Updated:
* Fix \condump command
* Allow listing all client demos when connected to pure server
* List only external files for condump/writeconfig
* Draw scroll start/end markers for input fields
* Fix input fields color tracking during scrolling
* Fix x86 QVM (cpma crashes etc.)

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<< Comment #223 @ 08:55 CDT, 20 April 2013 >>

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serh - Reply to #222

The client is still excellent, definitely preferred. The recent improvements are much appreciated thanks very much :D. I have a couple questions:

1) I seem to be having trouble setting and getting http download redirection working - although I believe I had it working in the past, I can try to verify on an earlier release if needed. From console:

ERROR: Download Error: HTTP response code said error Code: 404 URL:
http://ws.q3df.org/getpk3bymapname.php/.1/bas...urney2.pk3

when sv_dlURL is: sets sv_dlURL "http://ws.q3df.org/getpk3bymapname.php/%1"
sv_allowdownloads 1 (both on server)
cl_allowdownloads 1 (on client)
obvious problem, looking for /baseq3/mapname.pk3
When I try to set to my http server:
Need paks: @baseq3/pukka3tourney2.pk3@baseq3/pukka3tourney2.pk3
URL: http:/xxx/baseq3/pukka3tourney2.pk3
********************
ERROR: Download Error: Couldn't resolve host name Code: 0 URL:
http:/xxx/baseq3/pukka3tourney2.pk3
********************

however, http:/xxx/baseq3/pukka3tourney2.pk3 in a browser downloads the map without a problem (verified by additional users)

For reference, setting cl_dlURL "http://ws.q3df.org/getpk3bymapname.php/%1" and using /dlmap pukka3tourney2 works great. also cl_dlURL "http://xxx" and /download /baseq3/pukka3tourney2.pk3
So, I am doing it wrong, please instruct.

The 2nd issue I would like to mention, minor, running a server with cnq3 1.46, or ioq3 1.36, cpma mod -- the server config specifies sv_fps "40" and this takes. Running quake3e.ded linux server doesn't start the server in sv_fps 40, it can be set through the server console, but any change of map or mode it reverts to sv_fps 30.

So just a couple minor hiccups, I would be very pleased if I could sort them out some how,

Thanks for your continued development.

pm me I can give you my http server link if u would like to verify.

<< Comment #224 @ 11:38 CDT, 20 April 2013 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #223

when sv_dlURL is: sets sv_dlURL "http://ws.q3df.org/getpk3bymapname.php/%1"

sv_dlURL must point to resource containing files exactly how client expects to place it locally, i.e. containing baseq3, cpma, edawn, osp etc. folders with corresponding files in it, also no %1/%m patterns allowed (because "%" will be changed to "." by engine due to security reasons), just direct link to root
So, in order to use ws.q3df.org with sv_dlURL you must contact admins and ask them to implement gamedir (baseq3, cpma, edawn, osp etc.) support

however, http:/xxx/baseq3/pukka3tourney2.pk3 in a browser downloads the map without a problem (verified by additional users)

In this case you just need to set sv_dlURL to http:/xxx

running a server with cnq3 1.46, or ioq3 1.36, cpma mod -- the server config specifies sv_fps "40" and this takes. Running quake3e.ded linux server doesn't start the server in sv_fps 40, it can be set through the server console, but any change of map or mode it reverts to sv_fps 30

I can confirm that it definitely works with cnq3 but doesn't work with (windows versions): original 1.32c, 1.32e, ioq3-1.36 (both dedicated and full client) so it looks like a cpma bug

Edited by Cyrax at 12:40 CDT, 20 April 2013

<< Comment #257 @ 04:29 CDT, 2 October 2015 >>

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DEZ_ - Reply to #224

I can confirm that it definitely works with cnq3 but doesn't work with (windows versions): original 1.32c, 1.32e, ioq3-1.36 (both dedicated and full client) so it looks like a cpma bug

it's a feature

Notes for version 1.48 (27 Jul 10)
...
chg: increase sv_fps maximum value to 40 for cnq3
...

<< Comment #258 @ 03:33 CST, 2 November 2015 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #257

Btw, where is CPMA now?

<< Comment #259 @ 10:30 CST, 2 November 2015 >>

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DEZ_ - Reply to #258

CPMA is over, qrealka has no time for release the final version

<< Comment #266 @ 05:11 CDT, 7 July 2016 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #259

I found that dynamic lights is not working in CPMA only (tested with v1.48), changing client version to "CNQ3 1.33" did the trick but dlights becomes additive

Edited by Cyrax at 12:55 CDT, 7 July 2016

<< Comment #225 @ 18:13 CST, 5 March 2014 >>

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SIHdW3W

for some reason dynamic lights aren't working, any clue about this cyrax?

<< Comment #226 @ 04:34 CST, 6 March 2014 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #225

\r_vertexLight 0 ?

<< Comment #227 @ 08:03 CST, 6 March 2014 >>

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SIHdW3W - Reply to #226

yeah, I asked in cpm pickup and someone else had this issue too, I don't know if it's my cfg or whatever but r_dynamiclight doesn't make a difference 0 or 1

<< Comment #228 @ 10:04 CST, 6 March 2014 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #227

same here

<< Comment #229 @ 05:45 CST, 7 March 2014 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #227

Try with clean config, I hope that I will release new build soon

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<< Comment #230 @ 06:49 CST, 7 March 2014 >>

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SIHdW3W - Reply to #229

deteled every q3config and autoexecs from baseq3 and cpma folder, still, the command doesn't make a difference. With my own cfg dynamic lights work in cnq3 client.

thanks for your fast replies !

<< Comment #231 @ 08:09 CDT, 10 March 2014 >>

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Cyrax

Updated, mostly with ioq3 bugfixes

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<< Comment #232 @ 05:39 CDT, 12 August 2014 >>

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Padawan

Cyrax is from Donetsk right? Damn i hope he's okay :o

<< Comment #233 @ 06:48 CDT, 12 August 2014 >>

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cerno - Reply to #232

He's not a fan of Russia either :(

<< Comment #234 @ 07:40 CDT, 10 October 2014 >>

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LuGia

Cyrax, love your client!
Anyways I got a question about the acceloffset, i use extreme value 38000 and its great but i cant figureout how i could make my QL config about same, it has acceloffset too but it seems like its like 10k times more effective or something, got any knowledge about it?

Edited by LuGia at 07:41 CDT, 10 October 2014

<< Comment #235 @ 16:16 CDT, 24 October 2014 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #234

Hi, I'm just backported original code from ioq3. If you want - download sources and look in code/client/cl_input.c starting from line 444

<< Comment #236 @ 15:42 CDT, 30 October 2014 >>

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Anonymous (83.23.38.127)

how to change fonts and size in console? and Cyrax add button esc to delete mistake writed command line :))
nice mod better then cnq3

<< Comment #237 @ 12:36 CST, 16 November 2014 >>

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DEZ_ - Reply to #236

what exactly is better?

<< Comment #238 @ 14:01 CST, 16 November 2014 >>

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matuka - Reply to #237

iirc doesn't cnq3 have dodgy mouse input?

<< Comment #239 @ 16:09 CST, 16 November 2014 >>

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DEZ_ - Reply to #238

no, i asked qrealka about mouse input in q3e(have shown him sources) and he's told that there is no significant differences.

Edited by DEZ_ at 07:21 CDT, 31 March 2015

<< Comment #240 @ 15:17 CDT, 25 April 2015 >>

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Cyrax

Bugfixes + unlocked fps in timedemo:

Edited by Cyrax at 15:18 CDT, 25 April 2015

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<< Comment #241 @ 17:21 CDT, 25 April 2015 >>

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santile - Reply to #240

\:D/

<< Comment #255 @ 08:44 CDT, 28 April 2015 >>

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gSTRUCTOR ' - Reply to #240

I miss that screen

<< Comment #242 @ 06:20 CDT, 26 April 2015 >>

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M1zzu

Hey Cyrax, it�s great to hear you�re still active for this project. Thx lots.

I experience two minor problems with running q3 cpma on 32-bit linux (ubuntu 14.04 & i3wm on a gtx 560 (nvidia drivers)) and would like to know if you can give some information as how to solve them:

1. It seems that quake 3 clients block my window manager binds (which all are a combination of win_key+someletter) except when I have the console down and when I�m not running q3 in fullscreen mode. But i3 lets you toggle it�s status/task-bar at the bottom of the screen by only pressing win_key, and that works at all times. And the letter keys do register in quake while not in console, so win_key+wasd let�s me move around.

2. As a workaround to problem #1, I just run q3e as a borderless window on its own workspace and toggle console to switch to other windows, but then another problem arises: The game seems to ignore the r_overbrightbits settings when it�s not in fullscreen, which is sad because higher values allow for better visibility. r_mapoverbrightbits works just fine and fiddling with vertexlight on/off or r_ignorehwgamma seems not to do a thing.
console output for windowed/fullscreen vid_restart does not differ except for this single line:
XFree86-VidModeExtension Activated at 1920x1080 # in fullscreen
XFree86-VidModeExtension: Ignored on non-fullscreen/Voodoo # in windowed

full output (for windowed)

Solvin problem #2 by running the game in fullscreen mode is not worth the pain I get from problem #1 where I can�t switch to a different window while fullscreen (and the game for some reason feels like it needs to do a vid_restart when switching to/from windowed).

Thank you for your time.

edit: Also, a really minor inconvenience: I cannot paste things into the console, neither from X�s primary selection, nor from the standard clipboard. Typing server ips into the console is not so fun (but a bunch of aliases should solve this).

Edited by M1zzu at 12:09 CDT, 26 April 2015

<< Comment #243 @ 03:43 CDT, 27 April 2015 >>

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phy1um - Reply to #242

I think there are brightness/gamma problems in ioquake3, because no matter what I try in that or Q3E, the gamma setting gets ignored in fulscreen mode and everything is really fucking dark. I''m on Windows, though.

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<< Comment #246 @ 13:16 CDT, 27 April 2015 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #243

post \condump there

<< Comment #251 @ 21:08 CDT, 27 April 2015 >>

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phy1um - Reply to #246

Setting r_oberBrightBits to a negative value fixed it somehow.

<< Comment #245 @ 13:16 CDT, 27 April 2015 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #242

1. I'm not familiar with X11 input so much but what I know is that it can't handle global hotkeys properly - thats why in_minimize-function is windows-only. Also, grabbing whole input is not a bug in my opinion. Because, for example, system alt+tab, menu key function are specially blocked in Windows to allow using them for in-game binds.
2. I'm added support for nevagive \r_overBrightBits to override fullsceen checks, as quick solution
3. X11 API documentation is terrible so I don't know anything about clipboard - point me if you have some good C example how to do that

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<< Comment #248 @ 17:11 CDT, 27 April 2015 >>

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ProT : - Reply to #245

This may help with the X11 clipboard thing: https://burrows.svbtle.com/universal-copy-paste-in-linux

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<< Comment #250 @ 20:26 CDT, 27 April 2015 >>

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Schreq - Reply to #242

Yo mizzu,

to your first problem maybe this could help:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gaming#Keyboard_grabbing

For the problem with pasting I suppose you tried Shift+Insert already?! You could also just create a small shell script or alias which uses xclip to write "connect <ip from clipboard>" into a config in the game folder so you can just exec that.

Edit:
echo "connect $(xclip -o --selection primary)" > /path/to/game/cfg/folder/connect.cfg

Edited by Schreq at 21:23 CDT, 27 April 2015

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<< Comment #244 @ 12:59 CDT, 27 April 2015 >>

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Cyrax

Update:
* Negative \r_overBrightBits to force gamma in windowed mode

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<< Comment #247 @ 15:28 CDT, 27 April 2015 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #244

BOSS

<< Comment #252 @ 03:50 CDT, 28 April 2015 >>

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naper ' - Reply to #244

What a beast.

<< Comment #253 @ 04:14 CDT, 28 April 2015 >>

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Cyrax

Update:
* Clipboard paste support for linux client
(at least it works fine in my environment: fluxbox, xterm, firefox )

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<< Comment #254 @ 04:56 CDT, 28 April 2015 >>

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ProT : - Reply to #253

That was quick. :)

<< Comment #256 @ 14:45 CDT, 16 May 2015 >>

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Cyrax

Some optimizations:

Edited by Cyrax at 14:46 CDT, 16 May 2015

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<< Comment #260 @ 14:21 CST, 8 December 2015 >>

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Cyrax

Now can use pak files from purchased Steam's Q3A

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<< Comment #261 @ 16:52 CST, 8 December 2015 >>

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BalkanFM - Reply to #260

*salutations*

<< Comment #262 @ 18:06 CST, 8 March 2016 >>

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OrbitaL-S2D - Reply to #260

Hi, good job on the executable. I registered on the edawn site and posted in the contact forum and it said an administrator will have to approve or something.

<< Comment #263 @ 03:22 CST, 9 March 2016 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #262

Thanks, sorry for delay

<< Comment #264 @ 05:44 CST, 9 March 2016 >>

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SIHdW3W - Reply to #263

Glad to see you're still around, hope everything is going well for you in ukraine

you're the kind of dev quakelive needed : (

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<< Comment #265 @ 05:47 CST, 9 March 2016 >>

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Meph1stoo + - Reply to #264

I wish id got annexed by gazprom

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z3ct4d - Reply to #265

Gazprom loss it's capitalization 5-x since invasion to Ukraine. Now it's about 50+ billions, and was 230+ billions USD before.
All ruzki "power" was around selling it's bowels, industrialization provided by US and Europe didn't help them to become a state... Fuck them! Where is my shovel?

<< Comment #267 @ 06:54 CDT, 29 July 2016 >>

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Cyrax

Update:
* No more unexpected "Restarting server due to numSnapshotEntities wrapping"
* Backport fast legacy (udp) downloads from ioq3
* Backport udp spoofing protection from ioq3 (protocol 71)
* Raize some client network rate limits
* Sync with redrerergl1 from ioq3
* Fix win32 clipboard copy function
* Fix dlight #32 not being rendered
* Render CPMA/CNQ3 color codes (8,9,a-z) in console
* Netcode & renderer bugfixes
* Win32: change gamma only for used monitor
* Win32: track and change gamma when moving game window
* Win32: Implement \in_nograb - so now it is possible to move game window without opened console
* Fix non-working \r_ignorehwgamma in linux
* Linux: support gamma ramps larger than 256 entries
Also, here is one-week history of discovery, testing and fixing last two bugs - which was impossible without ProT's feedback:

Edited by Cyrax at 09:44 CDT, 29 July 2016

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<< Comment #271 @ 06:47 CDT, 5 September 2016 >>

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M1zzu - Reply to #267

I'm pretty sure I have had something similar to the most top one as well. It started appearing after nvidia proprietary driver update on arch linux somewhere in July I think, and would make both my screens look like that. Doesn't happen with FOSS drivers.

<< Comment #272 @ 09:50 CDT, 5 September 2016 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #271

Yes, it was related to nvidia proprietary driver

<< Comment #268 @ 02:03 CDT, 1 September 2016 >>

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serh

have a strange bug when speccing games, will unexpectedly quit with msg: "Output buffer for encoded JPEG image has insufficient size of 6220800 byte"

This has happened with older q3e from 2014 (TQ3 uncapped fps) and most recent 20-Aug-2016, release.

attached cropped console ( just removed most of the *.pk3 being loaded to save lines)

nifwl almost dodged impre$$ive's rocket
impre$$ive almost dodged nifwl's rocket
Timelimit hit
Wrote screenshots/nifwl-vs-impre$$ive-cpm3a-2016_08_31-23_41_37.jpg
----- Client Shutdown (Server fatal crashed: Output buffer for encoded JPEG image has insufficient size of 6220800 bytes) -----
Stopped demo.
----- FS_Startup -----
Current search path:
C:\Program Files (x86)\Quake III Arena\cpma\zzz-levelshots.pk3 (95 files)
C:\Program Files (x86)\Quake III Arena\cpma\z-singlecolorfulbrights.pk3 (100 files)
C:\Program Files (x86)\Quake III Arena\cpma\z-cpma-pak148.pk3 (498 files)

...

C:\Program Files (x86)\Quake III Arena\baseq3\1smallmap.pk3 (5 files)
C:\Program Files (x86)\Quake III Arena\baseq3\17+ctf.pk3 (72 files)
C:\Program Files (x86)\Quake III Arena\baseq3\16+.pk3 (29 files)
C:\Program Files (x86)\Quake III Arena/baseq3
c:/program files (x86)/steam\SteamApps\common\Quake 3 Arena/baseq3

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31455 files in 278 pk3 files
RE_Shutdown( 1 )
Shutting down OpenGL subsystem
...wglMakeCurrent( NULL, NULL ): success
...deleting GL context: success
...releasing DC: success
...destroying window
...resetting display
...shutting down QGL
...unloading OpenGL DLL
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Output buffer for encoded JPEG image has insufficient size of 6220800 bytes

happy to provide any additional details, thanks!

<< Comment #269 @ 03:41 CDT, 2 September 2016 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #268

Ok, I will check

<< Comment #273 @ 23:30 CDT, 29 September 2016 >>

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SIHdW3W - Reply to #269

my game keeps being choppy with your client only when i fullscreen. Cnq3 works good.

any ideas? (i've checked whether monitor framerate and cfg framerate match and so on)

<< Comment #275 @ 13:09 CDT, 30 September 2016 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #273

try \com_yieldCPU 0 or \com_affinityMask 1

<< Comment #279 @ 13:13 CDT, 3 October 2016 >>

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SIHdW3W - Reply to #275

i got it fixed by ticking something in nvidia control panel, seems like there's some kind of trouble with drivers and opengl?

<< Comment #284 @ 02:18 CDT, 4 October 2016 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #279

Looks like that, but its better to reproduce that bug

<< Comment #274 @ 07:34 CDT, 30 September 2016 >>

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cloned

Nice to see edawn is still in development! Shame my current PC does not have a cdrom drive anymore! Will wait for next steam sale...

<< Comment #276 @ 13:21 CDT, 30 September 2016 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #274

promode lighting coming soon

Edited by Cyrax at 13:22 CDT, 30 September 2016

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<< Comment #281 @ 14:45 CDT, 3 October 2016 >>

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Benroads

Hey, been using q3e over cnq3 for a few years now but during that time I have noticed a few things that would be nice if they could possibly be implemented/fixed (These may just be settings that I am not aware of)

In CNQ3 the skyboxes do not get picmipped while in Q3E they do

Q3E:
http://puu.sh/rw0Tj/f5521eebf3.jpg

CNQ3:
http://puu.sh/rw0TY/c8f7c94636.jpg

In Q3E it seems that the number of rail "cores" is limited (Not exactly sure how to explain it since the pictures will probably do better)

Q3E:
http://puu.sh/rw0Us/9ae7765c5b.jpg

CNQ3:
http://puu.sh/rw0V1/c3129f9e6b.jpg

Also with regards to the skybox picmip thing, what exactly determines what materials do or do not get picmipped. A friend of mine is using a fork of q3e (http://esreality.com/post/2683232/modified-q3...d-fps-src/) and his jumppads are not picmipped but when I used the same client I couldn't seem to repeat it. If possible I would like to have an option to have non picmip'd skyboxes and potentially jumppads since on certain maps they become fairly hard to see on picmip 6.

If I can provide more information just let me know and thanks for the excellent client.

<< Comment #282 @ 15:33 CDT, 3 October 2016 >>

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fau - Reply to #281

nopicmip shader keyword (and nomipmaps)

<< Comment #286 @ 02:59 CDT, 4 October 2016 >>

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Benroads - Reply to #282

Where is this located?

Also I assume this isnt something that I can just make a .pk3 for since it would likely get caught by sv_pure.

<< Comment #287 @ 06:01 CDT, 4 October 2016 >>

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fau - Reply to #286

in .shader files. Yes, this is exactly something you make a .pk3 for and for the same reason it will be blocked by sv_pure.

<< Comment #289 @ 01:10 CDT, 5 October 2016 >>

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Benroads - Reply to #287

So I guess each client has one that gets included with it that could potentially be modified if I were to make my "own" client.

<< Comment #291 @ 11:50 CDT, 5 October 2016 >>

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fau - Reply to #289

If you're making a mod you can and should "fix" some shaders with nopicmip keywords and inclode them in your mod's pk3. This is what osp and cpma do and it should work with any client. Perhaps sky shader is hard-coded and requires engine modification, I don't remember right now.

<< Comment #292 @ 13:50 CDT, 20 October 2016 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #286

\seta r_maxpolys 5000
\seta r_maxpolyverts 30000
\vid_restart

<< Comment #283 @ 15:52 CDT, 3 October 2016 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #281

1) I will backport \r_neatsky from DEZ soon
2) IIRC cnq3 doesn't have railcore render code so it may be just forced shader

<< Comment #285 @ 02:59 CDT, 4 October 2016 >>

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Benroads - Reply to #283

Is there a command that limits the number of cores that are rendered at once and if so what is it?

If there is not currently a command could you potentially implement one?

<< Comment #290 @ 08:11 CDT, 5 October 2016 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #285

I don't know this part of renderer atm

<< Comment #277 @ 08:53 CDT, 3 October 2016 >>

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leopold '

Can we haz GLX_SAMPLES and some cvar for it (antialiasing the cheap way)?

<< Comment #278 @ 12:40 CDT, 3 October 2016 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #277

Yes

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<< Comment #280 @ 14:37 CDT, 3 October 2016 >>

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leopold ' - Reply to #278

\o/

Btw, I compiled it on OpenBSD (used some sdl driver I think from ioquake3 for sound), now I get SEGV (Segmentation fault) in

1254: visinfo = qglXChooseVisual( dpy, scrnum, attrib );

in linux_glimp.c, any idea where this comes from?

<< Comment #288 @ 09:38 CDT, 4 October 2016 >>

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leopold ' - Reply to #280

PEBKAC, forget it

<< Comment #293 @ 20:10 CDT, 27 July 2018 >>

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LOLatRoflexTimers '

Hi, im trying to play some osp and I've choosen your client, some questions:

1-How do I get the same sens feel as in QL? My sens is weird, and I have put same sens, m_accel, pitch and yaw values. Also in_mouse 2 is what I have on QL. The sens is like too high, and not high enough on accel, it should be smoother on slower movements.. its weird, like too light feel.

2- on the x64 .exe it's fucked up, i use cg_viewsize 90 to get the black corners around the screen and instead of black its like clipped, distorted, fucked up image. Also for some reason my bind to toggle the console (the default key at the left of the 1 key) doesnt work

3- How do I get proper 1920x1080 resolution? I expected this to show up in the menu on a modern client. I tried custom aspect ratio but I think its just a 4:3 image stretched.

4-Gamma is dark when I go windowed mode or do vid restart etc, I have to change gamma to any other value then put it back to my number, i think due the flux app.

5-How do I make all the sprites smooth? I mean the rocket flying looks squareish. The explosion is fine tho. In QL the rocket its fine even on picmip 5. I have cg_nomip at 5

6-When I do writeconfig "myconfig.cfg" I dont know where the hell myconfig.cfg is located.

Edited by LOLatRoflexTimers at 20:37 CDT, 27 July 2018

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Cyrax - Reply to #293

0 - Make sure you're running latest version (28-Jul-2018 for now)

1 - Can't help with this so much because QL sources is closed so I don't know how QL works you like so much

2 - Use \r_modeFullscreen 2 + \r_fbo 1 + \r_renderScale 2 + custom \r_renderWidth and \r_renderHeight values for any resolution you want to play with

3 - OSP doesn't properly scale for wide resolutions, so emulate 4:3 via \r_renderWidth & \r_renderHeight I mentioned above

4 - \r_fbo 1 should solve that

5 - \r_nomip 1 - will apply picmip only to map textures

6 - it always saves in current game directory, i.e. [path-to-your-q3]\baseq3 for vanilla or [path-to-your-q3]\OSP

Edited by Cyrax at 15:48 CDT, 28 July 2018

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<< Comment #295 @ 19:36 CDT, 28 July 2018 >>

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LOLatRoflexTimers ' - Reply to #294

First of all, I confused your client with the iquake3 one, I realized where I was replying to. So I downloaded your custom .exe. The point 2 was fixed by default, everything else did the trick. Sens seems to feel fine as in the same as in QL both in x86 and x64 but I will be using x64, not sure if it makes any difference but I guess x64 is better since its a 64 bit exe and can make use of all the ram.

About OSP not doing proper scale with wide resolutions.. I don't get it. Mods shouldn't have a say on that, it's all about the .exe.

I've tried \r_modeFullscreen 2 + \r_fbo 1 + \r_renderScale 2 + custom \r_renderWidth 1920 and \r_renderHeight 1080 and all I got was a mess in which the screen is all pixelated in the corner of a screen and I can see my desktop

This is how it looks like with the regular r_mode -1, r_customaspect 1, r_customheight 1080, r_customwidth 1920, and then compared to QL below, same spot of the map:

https://i.imgur.com/tr5YgaN.jpg

This is from the ioquake3 exe but it's just the same with your modded exe

Notice how it's different. In QL it looks as if the fov is further, but I assume the fovs calculated the same, it's just that QL is true 1920x1080 widescreen wereas the ioquake3 exe just stretches the image??

Again I don't see how OSP is relevant here. It does the same in baseq3, CPMA or any other mod.

I wish I could get the fov/aspectratio issue solved. If I can get this done then the other problems have been solved already. Your x64 exe seems way more stable than the x64 from the ioquake3 website which I was having many problems with. Also nice to see the first q3 client that properly works with f.lux enabled :)

Edited by LOLatRoflexTimers at 19:39 CDT, 28 July 2018

<< Comment #296 @ 04:49 CDT, 29 July 2018 >>

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Cyrax - Reply to #295

As I said - OSP can't properly rescale at wide resolutions, same is true for VQ3, CPMA, Defrag and pretty much all other Q3A mods, except my mini VQ3-mod pak8a.pk3 (shipped in the same zip as engine).
Engine is responsible only for resolution setup, rest stuff is done on mod side.
So there is no solution for you for outdated/closed-source mods like OSP